Hi Runner I have had enough knowledge of the afterlife to know this,that we do choose our life and destiny before we are born,so our spirit can learn different emotions on the earth plain as well as different experiences. It is truly hard sometimes to walk on our path of life as life is never easy.

Love and God bless Juditha

I think that we do make certain "contracts" with other spirits/souls before incarnating to this lifetime. I have been through a divorce, and it took me a long time to understand that, even though I had been hurt, I also left something with my X spouse for his growth.  He chose to go to another woman and leave me and our two sons.  It was difficult for me to accept, but I was the one to "let go" and let "God"-- so to speak. But, believe me-- I hated God for what I went through during that period and I did a lot of self examination and meditation regarding why I had to expierence such devastation.  I understand that my X had something to learn from me and visa-versa.  I have remarried and been with the current spouse for 28 years.  So, yes--- we do choose a contract or agreement with another soul before "being born".  Remember-- it's isn't just what we are learning that is important, but also what we will leave behind for our survivors to learn by.

What do you think of this idea...

What if we had the chance to know what our complete spiritual connection is with just one person in our lives...Would you want to know everything?  Would you be able to handle all the emotion that comes with that knowledge?  And which person would you choose?

Hello everyone......!

I was just wondering what kind of karmic retribution might be involved in the following situation: Lets say two souls had a pre-birth agreement to meet up together in the earthplain and form a relationship. Say the relationship was suppossed to last X amount of time; however, due to free will, one party decided to "take off" earlier then planned and decides to head home. The one soul was supposed to stick around but due to the pressures of living on the earthplain, the soul decides to either consciously or unconsciously commit  suicide or an accidental suicide. Would this soul eventually re-unite with the other soul to finish where they left off? Might there be some karmic debt of some sort owed to the other soul who remained behind due to "breach of contract"?

Thanks!

Hi Runner and everyone else!
I am new here, but find this subject very interesting!!

I dont really think we are meant to dwell on whether or not we have a pre-birth contract and with whom.....just live your life, deal with the pain and stay strong, learn from everything life gives you......

In some instances the whole purpose for two people being married is to take the step to divorce as it takes courage to choose you and not the "safety" of an unhappy marriage......Its all about taking the plunge, anything after that is easy but to find the courage to jump, that is often a life lesson......bungee jumping or parachute jumping...what is the scary part of that? its the decision to jump....once the jumpers are in free air, they freak out, are happy, want to go again once on the ground......but everyone is full of nerves, contemplating if its a good idea to jump......

hi Runner  what a good thread. you show us something very basic about humanity. this need we have to be monogamous in affairs of the heart. 22 years...in a way I wish I'd had that long of a time with the man who fathered my children. I only had 3 years until we divorced, and then only 12 years total before he died. I actually visualized us porch sitting in old age, completely contented and falling deeper in love. it just didn't happen. I think we made a contract he would make an appearance, supply dna for the twins and go back home where he was more comfortable.
ah, to have full memory of pre-life contracts..would we benefit from that? they don't go far when they die, even the relationship continues in divorce. this man had to drop in and clear up his karma with me by telling me to "pull myself together" lol!!  thats all I needed to do what he asked...I did pull myself together but only because I thought I could help him if I did to not have to worry after me.
now, he is like a big brotherly vibration..not romantic, but definetely like a member of a group soul situation of different roles in different lives.
I think grief works the soul to struggle up from it. you think, wow, I never thought I'd get over it and be happy again, but we discover our spouses never stopped loving us, even if they reach for another to love or leave you to raise your rascals all alone by dying, they still know you can go on, and they never stop loving you, all relationships remain in our hearts forever and all will be known sooner or later, the answer to our questions. never stop loving.

HI Runner - Aside from agreement with Rob and Baby-Duck, I'll offer two views from my own experience. First, personally, I was married fiove times. This last time was to a woman whom I dated while a selfish juvenile. When I had grown up into a responsible adult she returned, and after 20 years of living together (Hi Marilyn) she allowed me to use the "M-word", and announced that she would be "my LAST wife".  And it has been OK since then  I'm now a 2-times great grandparent, 16 grandkids, 5 kids and a lot of joy.

I also do past life work, which bears on your "contract" question. A woman came in who had a despicable boy friend - abusive and cruel in all the usual ways. It seems that about 300 years back they had fallen in lust, married, and he promptly died of smallpox or something like it. She was devastated and wanted desperately to have him back, and in this life, she got her wish. That's how contracts are made. Until she gets the message that this is not a necessary part of her life, she will continue to keep him. Thus far she's lost access to her kids, and is in considerable danger of being beaten to death. And that's how many contracts are ended. Interestingly, her lifestyle in this incarnation has been on the same level as that of her abusive boy friend.

In your life, you have had a good marriage up to the present, and now it seems that your spouse has found an alternative. It is not your fault, nor is it hers, that your emotional situation has led you to this moment. You are both doing your best to cope with a difficult and confusing world. Her choice is probably non-optimal, and it certainly will be painful for both of you - it always hurts to break up, regardless of the reasons. Your choices have been inclined toward constancy, which is probably a better idea.

The usual result of a divorce is determined wholly by your response to the situation. If you are truly loving, the next step is either to seek pair-wise counseling (if she agrees) or to seek a fast and minimally painful separation if that's what she wants. Her lawyers will ask for everything, yours will agree to somewhat less, and should she marry again, you'll be off the hook. On the other hand, what man wants an unfaithful woman? She is not doing herself any favors. And that creates a new contract for the future. If your part is limited to loving and assisting, ou can avoid becoming part of it. If you blame, rage and hate, you'll get a chance to do it all over again (Ugh!) as the contractural connection plays out. When in doubt, love is about all that works.

I'm truly sorry about your situation, and I recognize that it presents an opportunity to express love under the hardest conditions. If you want more information, I suggest that you find someone to help with past life regression. IARRT.org is one place to look, IHF.com is another. Meanwhile, it is a true statement that "everything happens for a reason", and "when one door closes, another opens".

PUL
dave