I totally agree with you and that's why Bruce's website and board are here among others.

Love, Mairlyn

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<Chuckle> I loved that Dave and am still laughing. Thanks, I needed that in this 67 year old body.

Love, Mairlyn

Hi Fazzans and all,
I think that indeed our world would be a much better place if there was a common sense about that there is an afterlife and at least some basics what a place the afterlife is.

I see some things that hinder such a common state:

1. The omnipresent belief covered as "scientific" that there is no existence of the person or an equivalent of a person after physical death, expressed in phrases like "we are our brain". As I stated more than once here, this is not scientific at all and shows an eminent lack of philosophical thinking. However, this could be overcome. At least it would be totally allright with me if a scientist would say "I dunno" or would tell his/her belief, but not as a proven fact which is valid for everyone.

2. What one can find out about the afterlife seems to be dependant on what one has experienced in life over here.
example a) If one has a strong belief that there is no afterlife, you probably could send this person a dozen times to Bruce's workshops and the TMI and that won't change this belief. Only if there is at least a little space of allowance of the possibility that this belief might be wrong, there would be a chance this person would have experiences that will cause changes of beliefs. But a strong no-afterlife believer wouldn't go to afterlife workshops.
example b) A person with a strong religious belief would tend to see everything related to the afterlife through this belief. I've seen christian workshops on tv where many people had visions like in Revelations and other parts of the bible. So in the end we would just have a common belief that there is an afterlife, but what a place that is the opinions would differ according to the beliefs.
example c) Take several persons with no fixed beliefs regarding the afterlife and an openness to the possibility that it might exist. Let them do all the meditation techniques there are to explore that place. Now, what if they all tell different stories? That leads to a consideration if not any common "knowledge" about the afterlife is impossible because of it's actual dependance on what every person expects and wishs what the afterlife is. In Bruce's terminology it would be a situation where everyone would go to his/her adequate belief system. And maybe this is the reality, that there is no common reality?
(Though I personally believe in a sort of Nirvana, finally, where every "I" becomes all and all becomes this "I")

However, in Monroes and Bruce's writings is to be found that there is a state beyond the belief systems which allow an understanding of basic rules how this all works (not really all, but golden rules of life). If this state (or "place") could be reached in an easy way AND (and this is a critical point) if the experiences people make there would be convincing enough to be considered as evidence for an afterlife, then there is hope for a coming common insight in the afterlife and the going-along feedback to physical life. A support to this hope is the frequently reported phaenomenon that near-death-experiences of people with very different belief-backgrounds are surprisingly similar and often life-changing impressive, in the way that those people turn away from very dogmatic religious groups, and more listen to their inner voice, or God, and the common content of these experiences is: Love is the important thing, in all it's facettes.


Spooky