There is another way for proof and that is to visit the afterlife now using Bruce's methods. It is so easy for anyone to do. I've been there dozens of times and have proven to myself that it exists. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the afterlife exists. Come on, give it a try.

Love, Mairlyn

     If I am not mistaken this seems like you are considering suicide. I have thought of this to, but I could never do it. I mean, I have so much curiosity about whether there is life after death, but I could never find out in the manner of killing myself now, because I am too afraid of being wrong, or of the possible consequences. If there is no afterlife, then it seems wasted to "discover" that immediately, for then this was your only chance at life and it is now gone.

     "I can't find any other way of proving to myself that there is something more to all of this. I feel like a wounded animal that is struggling with every day that passes."

     I feel this way at times too. I think to myself, if there is no afterlife, I won't even know I am dead, I will no longer perceive anything. I will no longer learn, love or grow. Thus I must live my life fully until death comes, whether or not there is an afterlife. Of course, I would like to think that there is. And as well, this advice (one must live until one dies) is easy to say, and very difficult to follow. I have not yet mastered it in my own life, as lately I don't do much "living", just wallow around in contemplation.

Dave, maybe you feel pretty alone right now. Often times I feel entirely alone in the world, even when surrounded by my closest friends and loved ones. But really, one is never alone.. Right now you have myself, attempting to give what little I have learned. Right now, if you are willing, I have  you, too.

-Sven

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No, I don't think you'll have any trouble with visualization techniques.  I was poor at visualizing too but had no trouble at all learning to do retrievals. I'm glad to hear you've ordered Bruce's 5th book and the CD's as you're in for a wonderful journey. You'll learn relaxation techniques and energy gathering techniques and I think you'll find that it's so much easier than one can even imagine.  Good luck to you and welcome to the board.

Love, Mairlyn

Hi Dave,
for a long period of time in my life, there was no day I didn't thought of suicide. Now only sometimes, hypothetical. This dealing with suicide actually is causing pain. My reading about spiritual matters and practicing meditation has changed my mind.

Think about this: You leave your life at will, and find yourself in the afterlife, thinking: "Oh no, idiot me! I shouldn't have done that!"
I don't state that this will be this way, but it could be.

What about this: Ask yourself honestly, if you could make it one more day. If yes, allright then you have another day. I guess you will be able to do this many times. You can develop a sort of heroism about this, and be proud of this (and you really can!). Remember, one day your life will be over anyway. So try as long as you can. There's a good chance I think that you will have some benefit for not having surrendered. And, there's also a good chance that your life would make a turn you can enjoy- maybe a way that is unexpected.

Spooky

Hi Dave Dont commit suicide ,i know exactly how your feeling at the moment ,i am not at work at the moment and i have not got a lot of money but im going to the hospital once a week with a group of people who are in the same position as me ,they are all having an anxiety course with me ,its great we all sit together and talk about our problems and there like me cant face life propaly at the moment . i went to the drs dave and asked for help, like they did and we are getting it ,go and see your dr dave and ask for an anxiety course because your at such a low ebb ,i promise you ,you will be glad you did it,you got a life to live dave and there is help out there and people who care ,just hang in there dave ,things will get better , i was like you once thought about taking my own life but ive found a way to carry on and you will to .we are all your freinds on here .love and god bless you juditha

hi marilyn how do i get the cds and guide book from bruce mohen love deanna

Thanks marilyn lots of love deanna