I often find myself  caught in the same bind......what if we are are wrong.....what if everyone is getting it  all WRONG;  how depressing! Just when my natural human sceptiscm starts to kick in.......i do more research....hundreds of different authors....hundreds of different perspectives (with consistent similiarities).....hundreds of websites containing research by well known doctors and scientists.....and then there are the personal accounts from people all around the world from different walks of life.....How can they ALL be WRONG??!   There must be something to it.....I reccomend (I am no pro...an amatuer) exploring your own spiritual side and experimenting with different techniques (such as meditation or mirroring)  until you have your own experience with the afterworld.....You may want to try a medium....WHen you find your own proof it will be the biggest validation of all and the most worthwhile.....and read,read,read........knowledge really is power....the more you learn about this topic, the more questions you will have....the more you will search for awnsers that you will find.........You start to feel very peaceful and its not such a mystery afterall and you start to get the bigger picture of things.......but it doesnt happen overnight....its a life time process and I've only just begun myself.....good luck!

I used to be terrified too, not of the fadeing to nothing but simply of me being me and not existing any longer, I love existance I love being me, the thought of my essence simply fading from this world and no longer being made me physically ill and scared the hell out of.

Then I found this forum and Bruces' books and all the books I have read since and have found a large chunk of 'piece of mind'. What's odd though is that in recent weeks that loss of existance no longer scares me as much as it used to.

Don't get me wrong I have read enough to have a strong belief in the afterlife but have yet to have an experience that provides absolute proof for me. despite that belief I still wonder, but now that wondering very rarely scares me like it used to.

Well hopefully if you look further into the whole 'afterlife' and 'after-death communication' thing you will find the same peace of mind I am finding.

yeah i'm only 15 and for the year or so before i decided to look for resources like this site i was incredibly depressed over the same thing. As I began to look further into things, i discovered that the proof was pretty conclusive, and that there almost definitely is an afterlife. However, the death of consiousness upon bodily death still haunts my mind, and i still think about it sometimes, but the negative emotions disappear relatively quickly. On the other hand, it is human nature to question things like theis and we are naturally sceptic. My only advice is that your biggest asset in the quest of laying your mind to rest is this community.

totally agree with Rob and Mair. where love is, fear is vanquished, but its a process and don't happen at age 17.

I'm 59 now, and heres what I learned about the afterlife in a nutshell.
the more relationships you have that have created love, the more you find these people out there waiting for you with opened arms when you cross over. this is the only success we can lay claim to on the other side. the love we have known.
and like I tell my kids, facing fears is another reason we are here. its merely a character builder.

in the meantime, we live here on planet earth and try not to kill each other. you can see love is the biggest challenge and the biggest reward ever.

hugs, alysia

sven_und_jen wrote on Jun 12^th, 2006 at 12:21am:



Every one's believing has tidal waves. Sometimes the knowledge is strong, a few weeks later your convinced it's just a game of the brain. Even if you discover other state's of conciousness you will keep asking yourself if this is real or just happening in your mind.
The problem with it, is that the energy you're using and the place you're going to is not measurable (yet). So you don't have a rocksolid proof that it's really there. If you (like I do) have been learned only to accept things being measurable and captive in numbers, you will have a long lasting doubt about the whole idea of afterlife. It depends on your own sense if you will recoughnise a state of conciousness as being somewhere else, or just having a dream.

How easy it would be to know for sure that dreams and "fantasy" happen in another reality. How easy would it be to know for sure that the "pleasant shivers" you feel sometimes when thinking about a died person, would be the person's spirit being with you.
I sense those things (like a lot of others), see the first ray of light around living body's, am in close contact with my brother who died 7 years ago and still that doesn't proof afterlife for me.

I know it sounds strange when you can sense all that and still being insecure about it being fact or fiction, it's actually quite rediculous not to be sure about afterlife if you feel it's presence, but my mind just can't accept the other reality because lack of evidence. It's still a voice inside me telling it's my brain playing tricks.

So, don't get too excited. Probably you also got a lot of "signs" and you simply didn't recoughnise them as being proof for a spiritual world. You just put them away in the map "coincidence". Proof isn't there, a measurable, numbercaptive world is not waiting to be discovered. The "proof" of it being reality can't be given. (yet)

But: The proof of afterlife being a trick of mind hasn't been proven also. (The scientific idea's about the feeling of afterlife also lack numbercaptive and measurable fundaments)

Gee, thanks alysia..