I was looking at some old posts (from November) and one poster ("Roger" I think) mentioned that in the "Seth" book(s) (not sure what they are, haven't read 'em) that one cannot reincarnate in the same time frame as the last incarnation.
I find this VERY disturbing.
I liked the late 20th century - it is the absolute GLORY age for the entire existence of the human race, past and future.
I wouldn't want to incarnate in the past - slavery, disease, back-breaking miserable labor, and so forth.
The future will be even worse than the past, as we will run out of oil and return to the freaking MIDDLE AGES by 2025. We dawdled on the development of new sources of energy, and now it is TOO LATE. Since there will be no way to generate energy, we will slowly slip back into a Stone Age world, and will stay there for the rest of our species' existence. This is an absolute, hopeless, unavoidable certainty - do a search on "Duncan+Olduvai Theory" to see what I mean.
For me - I'm not a good conformist. This era (late 20th-early 21st centuries) is the ONLY time that people who are not mindless conformists can have a good life - past and future ages were and will be dominated by superstition and tribalism, which punishes those who don't fit into the herd.
Therefore, if the "Seth" books are true, I'm on the highway to Hell.
UNLESS I can dictate terms of my own reincarnation, including the era I get to live in.
No stop signs, no speed limits...

Resident Skeptic ???

Erm.

Dude.

Fossil fuels are gonna run out, but we know that already. Which is why we HAVE wind power, and we HAVE hydro power, and are working on electric power.

The end of oil is not the end of us. Even if it is, maybe we will slip back into more primative technology, but why the stone age? They didn't use oil in the 16th century, they managed to get along okay. And besides - maybe our technology would go back that way, but we'd have hundreds of years of mental development on those guys, years and years of knowledge that we could use even without that technology. (Taking baths, anyone?)

Trust me, man. Humans are more resourceful than that.

Here is the reference:  page 161 of Seth Speaks.  Seth is discussing the after death experience, specifically about our reviewing of the life we just had.

"If you find severe errors of judgment, you may then correct them.  You may perfect, in other words, but you cannot enter again into that frame of reference as a completely participating consciousness......."

It is clear from that reference and from the context of the chapter that you cannot reincarnate into the same timeframe, such as the late 20th century. 

There are certain ways you can "manipulate" the events of the life you just had, but that's a psychic exercise as opposed to coming back as what Seth calls a participating consciousness.

You might want to read this book, it's easy and cheap to obtain via amazon.

Hello Brendan, I agree with  Dora's statements that we don't reincarnate backward in time  since things occur  simultaneously.  However, from what I understand of Seth's statements made in many books  and in the ESP class sessions at Jane Roberts apartment in Elmira, other aspects  of ourselves, i.e.  our reincarnational  selves are still alive in other centuries and countries. They are simultaneously there just as we are here in whatever century.  One doesn't have to reincarnate, we have free will - as others  on this forum have stated.  My understanding of  this reincarnation business  is that only those who foul up terribly, and do much damage in society have a reqirement to come into another life on earth. But, this is not the person who has died and needs to pay back debts.  The Higher Self sends back a new  fragment with the same memories to live that life over again, and the original fragment , with free will, remains in the "hereafter."  Harry

Roger,

I did not stated  that  Seth didn't said what you quoted, but incorrect in understanding..  the explanation from Seth  mean,  Brendan cannot go back where he already IS

Don't matter how many *linear* lifetime he  have, since all of them is in the now his soul in Seth term, - based on Seth material, - always was, is,  will  experience  that  time period long as he  physically manifested... in any given timeframe even 200  or a 1000 years from now.

That is the reason why Seth expressing that "if you find severe errors of judgment you may correct them" because even though from this physical dimension it seems like the past personality died, therefore that is closed, done, and gone... but it is not... that is not a closed circle, it is because all of the lives simultaneous Brendan was, is and will experience his favorite timeframe....
So  maybe  not that bad news for him....


 

Hi Roger,

I think your interpretation of what Seth said is quite creative, but doesn't reflect what he intended.

When he said, "you cannot enter again into that frame of reference as a completely participating consciousness," he meant that you cannot re-enter the life just lived in order to go back and make changes in that life. There's absolutely nothing in the context of that statement that would imply that an oversoul couldn't have more than one soul living at the same time. In fact, if you follow to the end of that sentence you'll see he refers to "the applied consciousness of your self and your 'contemporaries.'" He was just talking about that particular life of one person. He wasn't excluding the possibility of the same oversoul having other lives at the same time (which is how he describes reincarnation). BTW, for people who have an early edition of the book, we're looking at the first paragraph that starts near the top of page 169 (session 538, after 10:07 pm).

Also, you said to Dora:
Quote:


Seth never says that a person experiences more than one lifetime, anyway. What he does say is that each soul/person/lifetime is a part of their greater oversoul, so individual people themselves don't have multiple lives, just memories of other lives/persons which share the same oversoul.

I hope this clears up some of the confusion.

Cheers,
Glen

Hi Sidney!That is so great that some people question things,unlike those who think that they know everything.
I agree with Dora on this.My understanding is that there are no past of future lives,there is just the NOW.Everything is occuring now...then your past of future lives are occuring now...Who created the linear time that we know here?Us of course...

Hi Glen-

I was trying to look at it in terms of the question Brendan originally asked.  He really liked the latter part of the 20th century ("he", meaning the aspect of his Oversoul known as Brendan) and would very much like to live another physical incarnation in that same timeframe.

Yes, I know that Seth didn't say an Oversoul couldn't have multiple personalities existing at the same "time."  I think we are mixing apples and oranges here a bit.

Although Brendan's Oversoul might indeed have several incarnations during the last part of the 20th century, the point Seth was making was that the personality of Brendan was not able to re-enter that particular timeframe other than to make some psychic adjustments to it in order to maybe do certain things a different (ie "better") way.  To clean up his act, so to speak.

Yeah, this stuff can get complicated at times, but Brendan just wanted to be Brendan again during a certain historical period that he especially liked.

Hey if we really want to get complicated, let's talk about all of Brendan's probable personalities and lifetimes, which he spun off each time he was faced with certain major decisions, such as should I marry Sarah or Lisa!  Now THAT makes his original question something of a piece of cake.

(hey Brendan, jump in here and join the fun!)