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MarD
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Death in Groups.
Mar 13th, 2006 at 2:32am
 
If a group of people die, say in a bus accident, do these people ascend into the afterlife together spiritually? -Just a curiosity, THX for any feedback!
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Re: Death in Groups.
Reply #1 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 5:06am
 
Personally, I would doubt it very much.
Although it has long before been preplanned how and when the individuals would die I think the ascent of the spirit/soul would very much depend on their beliefs while here on earth in the physical.
Among mass deaths there would be an enormous range of the way people had led their lives. There could be very spiritual people, total non-believers in the Afterlife, rapists, crooks, etc., etc. To me their spirit/souls would ascend the the appropriate focus level, with many having to go to the resting/rejuvenation centre while others could go directly to higher focus levels.
Finally, as time is meaningless in the Afterlife the ascent would be very swift indeed.

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Reply #2 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 7:50am
 
Hi MarD Iread this story about a Jewish man who died in the gas chambers in the war .He came to this medium and told him of his experience of dieing in there.
He was in the gas chamber with lots of Jewish people including children . He said as he and the people died there spirits were rising up together and towards this beautiful light and as he looked down he said that all there physical bodies looked like a load of rags laying on the floor.
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Reply #3 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 1:45pm
 
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Hi MarD Iread this story about a Jewish man who died in the gas chambers in the war .He came to this medium and told him of his experience of dieing in there.
He was in the gas chamber with lots of Jewish people including children . He said as he and the people died there spirits were rising up together and towards this beautiful light and as he looked down he said that all there physical bodies looked like a load of rags laying on the floor.
God bless juditha


by gosh Juditha I think that's the most intriguing medium story you've posted yet!  It is interesting and very visual.

On the topic as a whole, i'm reminded of a story I read about a hole opening in the sky above the Pentagon on 9/11 followed by a bright light ascending from the plane when it was about to impact.  I didn't know what to make of it, but the author's point was that the spirits actually left their bodies prior to impact, since death was inevitable, thus sparing them pain.  Anybody see that one?  I wish I could remember where I saw it.  I guess what made it interesting to me was that if they all left together, it potentially points to higher power manipulation (and how often does the sky open up?), rather than individuals, unless we're so interconnected we already knew what to do??... Anyway, it's a great question MarD.
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Reply #4 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 1:01am
 
Then what about the people who jumped from the towers after the planes hit on 9/11 did there spirits leave before they hit the ground?
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Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 1:05am
 
I do not think that those who fell from the towers were "taken" before they hit the ground because it was their own free wills that influenced them to jump in the first place.  They could have not jumped and died from smoke inhalation or something other, however those to be killed by the initial impact of the planes, might have been.  Seems logical.
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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 1:54am
 
Possibly so but they could have went mad from being so close to the explosion... burnt horribly, ears shattered, and blind or just in a insane state of mind from having a jet explode right next to them, maybe they jumped because of that who knows.
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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 1:59am
 
The only ones who do actually know are them themselves.  Great reasoning, Shawn. 

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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 1:09pm
 
I read your artical Bud_S, sounds real but why wouldnt more situations be documented all through out time, like in wars or excutions of innocents, ect. Or the current group bombings in Iraq, ect.?
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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 2:31pm
 
When people pass over whether separately or in groups, they will still go to areas that they resonate with.

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Reply #11 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 2:42pm
 
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I read your artical Bud_S, sounds real but why wouldnt more situations be documented all through out time, like in wars or excutions of innocents, ect. Or the current group bombings in Iraq, ect.?


That was my feeling as well.  I guess the implication explained more thoroughly in the book it was excerpted from was that this woman had unique capabilities because of her (holding breath...) "alien abduction experience."  I try to keep an open mind when reading stuff like this.  I've never seen an alien, a real orb, or anything like this woman has, but if she saw it, even if it wasn't really what she thought it was, I still find it worth learning about. 

I think maybe her "interpreter" interferred a bit with her "observer," as you'd expect,  but somewhere in all that is an interesting experience with real phenomenon.  I liked the way at the end  the Worley guy describes humans as blind slugs with regard to their ability to observe this kind of thing around them.  Living in a part of the world with a lot of slugs I laughed because I'm sure they really don't see me when I cruise by at relative warp speed.
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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2006 at 3:06pm
 
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If a group of people die, say in a bus accident, do these people ascend into the afterlife together spiritually? -Just a curiosity, THX for any feedback!


MarD,

I would say that what you are asking about is group or mass retrieval.  There's a story in one of my books about an earthquake in India in which some 68,000 people died.  Helpers set up nonphysical relief camps to assist in transferring large numbers of the deceased to an afterlife area.   The deceased didn't realize they'd died and arrived at these camps in ones and twos or larger groups.  By the nature of the way the relief camps were set up new arrivals were led to making the trip to an afterlife area where other helpers gave further assistance.

So, in some cases folks "ascend into the afterlife" together, as you put it.  But the beliefs held by each individual are the most powerful force in any after death situation.  An indivdual's beliefs may cause them to make choices that lead them away from the group and to a different afterlife area, or to stay 'near the bus' so to speak.

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Reply #13 - Mar 15th, 2006 at 12:29pm
 
I would tend to think death is a more personal thing even if dying in a group you would think you would have your own personal private death process rather than some public convention type. I dont know though.
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Reply #14 - Mar 15th, 2006 at 9:10pm
 
Shawn_michael, it's true, but before the personal death experience can take place one must REALIZE it.
There are some relating sort of retrievals in the retrieval section of this board concerning hurricane Catrina.
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