Hi everyone, I'm new here. My name is Ryan, I'm 19 years old. This is sort of my introduction post. I also have a big question.

I've astral projected several times by accident. In one projection, I projected into my bedroom, I was standing up next to my desk, and I watched my astral hand melt. My posters in my bedroom looked melty and fluid. I walked into different rooms in our house, and saw my family members astral bodies standing up sleeping, standing up dreaming.


Also, I found these awesome websites:
http://www.spiritual.com.au/astral.html,
http://www.astralweb.org/,
http://www.jonasridgeway.com/,
http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/index.html

I have a major question: When our bodies die, do we start lucid dreaming with other conscious astral spirits on the spirit planes? I've projected other times, and I've seen starry/sparkly astral beings walking around a starry astral plane, whereas I also saw my family members starry astral bodies standing up sleeping again.

After I found out about projection, I looked up projection websites and two major words. The two word's I looked up are astral and lucid, in Webster's dictionary, and I found they mean: astral Lucid:

Wow. Now that I know the other side/afterlife is real, I've also read several books on the other side/afterlife subject. Including psychic John Edward's books, Sylvia Browne, George Anderson, ect. All of the books are very infortmative, especially Sylvia Browne's. Sylvia Browne's books sound VERY familiar to my own experiences and sound very familiar and true in general. I go into the malls and Barnes and Noble where my girlfriend works, and she pretty much let's me get free books on anything. Thanks for your replies.

Hey Ryan!

Yeah my names Ryan also and I love Out Of Body Projections, mad about them. I have never seen another astral body floating above a physical body, just seen the physical so would definatly like to hear what happens. I think I more astral project at the moment but have you read Bob Monroe's books at all? Im half way through his first and he encounters OBE's and makes contact to people by once poking them, and it was confirmed so must be something there. I haven't had solid proof of Afterlife exisitance although I beleive in it as much as you can without proof.

I have had my own OBE proof though, one time through Alysia, both met out there unexpectedly! That was fun wern't it? And also through Vicky finding out where she works in an OBE down the the room number! But there are loads of really friendly funny and wise people here, its a really good board, glad I stumbled here!

Welcome to the board!

Ryan

Wilkommen!

welcome ryan!!!!! wow so jealous i cant even contact the afterlife needless to say doing obes lol

Welcome RyanParis,

wow, I only had one similar experience, but mine was the "poor mans" version compared to yours.  Thats awesome stuff, I'm sure at lot of us would like to hear more details, details, details.  When you have a chance.  Also, one question:  any info coming from "higher self", maybe commands given to you right before projecting?

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Very perceptive, though i totally disagree with those terms.

My imagination didn't put those starry Astral beings there walking around the Astral plane. I was simply seeing through my lids, and there they were walking around the astral plane, among my family members' starry Astral bodies, too.



Here's a projection:



My Astral vision was on when seeing through my eyelides.

You'll know once you actually astral travel that it's for real.

Hi RyanParis and all,
my one and only (as far as I remember) OBE of this "classic" type was also seeing through my lids. I was sleeping and then I somehow partly awoke and was looking at the wall of my room, where a picture is hanging. Then I realized I had my eyes closed and immediately awoke fully. It's a special experience, it feels absolute visually real, maybe even more than in physical waking state.
Spooky

yeah this happens to me too. Last time was yersterday morning.

I wonder if it really is astral vision. I was looking at my dorm alright but things were different. Not all the furniture was there. I figured I was hallucinating.

It's hard to tell.

I understand that we are paralyzed during REM, so that we don't physically act out what we're dreaming, but I thought you don't have to be in REM while having an OBE.  I don't think the body being paralyzed during REM directly relates to the OBE.  In other words, REM sleep means you are dreaming.  But you don't have to be dreaming in order to have an OBE.

Actually from what I read (can find sources if you want), you must NOT have REM to be projecting.

This is interesting...

This is from Stephen LaBerge's book, Exploring The World Of Lucid Dreaming, page 21-22.

"Very little dream content is reported from delta sleep.  Interestingly, this state of deep and dreamless sleep is highly regarded in some Eastern mystical traditions as the state in which we establish contact with our innermost consciousness.  It is when the inner world can be suffused with the full light of the highest universal consciousness.  The ego state of waking consciousness drops away.  Moreover, the personal aspects of the unknown mind are temporarily abandoned.  The memories, the problems, the troubled dream images are left behind.  All the limitations of the personal unconscious are drowned out in the full light of the highest consciousness".

I agree Ryan but distortion and viewing is distorted when we project sometimes, but I believe that is down to us being down here and this world influencing our experience over there. When we truly past I believe its just like we are here, but over there and don't have these inconsistancies.

Ryan