Quote:In defense of the Monroe/Moen disc doctrine, Don, if I hear about the flying caveman, priest-rapist, or other images again from Monroe, I'll go insane. This does not invalidate his theories or claims with any certainty. It simply means he had some spaced out experiences, and put a wacky interpretation on them.
Don, as you well know, our subconscious brain works in images and symbolism. Lucid dreams and OOB states may be difficult to interpret. We are constantly in danger of using the part of us Bruce calls "the perceiver," in the wrong way. Your criticisms make sense; but his misinterpretation does not validate ES' theories or invalidate the Monroe/Moen theories.
Likewise, Swedenberg may have misinterpreted symbolism shown to him. We are all fallible human beings.
All taken together TMI has had others validate certain aspects of the focus levels, and some of the hemi-sync data and Monroe's ideas. Is it perfect validation? No. But don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Monroe did not have the scientific mind of ES - perhaps his interpretor was flawed.
I have not seen my disc, or reached that level of awareness. But I won't discredit a man's theories based on a few misinterpreted lucid dreams or OOBE.
Think about it Don
Matthew
Excellent post Matthew. If only Don would go to TMI and take Gateway Voyage, he'd change his way of thinking, or else say that he'd been drugged. We each have our OWN experiences, not someone else's. Everyone perceives differently. Of course he'll say he can't afford it. I couldn't either but I budgeted for 9 months until I had a credit card paid down enough to be able to afford it. There is always a way.
Namaste,
Mairlyn
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