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How to get a guide to talk?
Oct 26th, 2005 at 7:45pm
 
Hi fellow explorers:

Can anyone tell me how you get sound in your experiences in the "astral" or wherever they might be?  I seem to have almost purely visual experiences.  Why am I not receiving sound or telepathy or Something.  Is there something I'm missing here?  I have received a word or two here and there, but that has seemed forced.  What is the key?  I am trying to relax and just go with the imagery so I won't lose focus but it always seems to play like a movie with no sound.  Any ideas?

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Reply #1 - Oct 26th, 2005 at 7:59pm
 
  How to get a Guide to talk....  Well thats the thing, you can't really unless they want to talk.  My feeling is that some of the more advanced incarnated people have made prior agreements not to have much overt guidance, and "coddling/attention"...because they want to test themselves, and the more grown up you are, the less advice you need from the "adults" so to speak.

  Maybe you are one of these?  More practically, sometimes i meditate and think of a blank screen which can have visuals, feelings, words, symbols, etc. on it...

  I went to the A.R.E headquarters in Virginia Beach a while ago, and they were having a ESP demonstration class.  One of the last things we did, was that we had this envelope which had a picture in it, and we tried to "get" what the picture was...

  I quieted my mind, took some deep breaths, and asked my Guides to help out.  I approached it with very little desire to be "accurate", more as a game.  Well, i was sitting next to my Twin Soul/Fiance and at first i get getting this impression of a round ovalish symbol, and i got "Blue!" really strongly...but i kept shaking my head, and knew that wasn't it..  So i repeated the process and pictured the blank screen like i told you about, then i got what looked like waving wheat, and i got the impression of speed so i wrote "cars". 

  When Becky and I opened up our pictures, i was kind of surprised as what i got was actually a blend of the two!   Her pic was of a single blue eye, all surrounded in blue, and my pic was of a closeup of horses tightly packed together, with the necks and manes most noticable, and they were all galloping...

  I was like Score!  Cause i never had really seriously tried anything like this, except through doing astrology charts--but that is more an instant knowingness from connection to Total Self... and i think the important part was my detachment and fun attitude about the whole thing.

Hope this helps
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Reply #2 - Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:18pm
 
 
Also, i don't think i can take all the credit as i think the energy of the place somewhat facilitated the process...

But if i practised this stuff in the same manner, i would get pretty good at it eventually...  But thats the thing, i don't think it is that importantWink

 I think just being loving to everyone, and especially the ones that give you a "hard time", is much, much more important...  This and meditation will automatically open me up, and i'm not concerned about this aspect of life.

 This is partly karmic, as i believe a "past life" of mine was completely focused on using psychic gifts, and didn't really want them because of the constant pain and fear of being "different" and not fitting in.

 I've always kind of had the "been there, done that" attitude towards this, though always being interested in psychic and spiritual things in a theoretical way...

Its amazing how much our other lives "spill over" into our present, and all the karmic patterns and circumstances...

 A recent event really reminded me of when i was in Egypt and trying to help others in an impersonal, loving, yet firm way.  

 This personality had power and influence, and being a High Priest with authority, he set up state rules because the society at the time was really hedonistic, selfish, self righteously pious, and materialistic--particularly some of those in the leadership positions.  

 Some had a personal problem with my DisK member, and they plotted to set up a situation in which they could get him banished...  Well, it worked cause he was naive and trusting.  I'm sure some of the plotters thought they were in the right though.  I think some of these people have played a very similar role recently, and boy our Disks must be laughing their arses off at our antics Wink Grin

 Yet, this person gave so much to everyone of his time, energy and love.  He had pulled a decaying society up by its boot straps, and was kind to everyone though not necessarily always permissive.  He truly served the people selflessly.

 This group karma thing, has been played out now majorily 3 times in my life, and with many other karmic patterns i've become aware of...  Its quite interesting in a mental way.  I keep wondering, "have i learned yet?"  Did i deal with it rightly this time around?  I guess the very fact that i'm talking about it shows that i am not and haven't!!! Roll Eyes Wink

Arrrg self honesty blows Shocked
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Reply #3 - Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:39pm
 
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Sound or clairaudience (sp?) isn't all it is cracked up to be. It sufferes from the same symbol translation that the images do. So what you "hear" is not necessarily what was said. "X is dead" may actually mean "The person Y who reminds you of X no longer wants to talk with you".

I hear vast amounts of stuff and it is FAR harder to bring back to physical memory than visual imagery. Just as hard as printed text after trying to read it on the other side. And don't even ask about cursive writing.

The other issue, of course, is that it opens you to M-band noise and passing F23 spirits. While trying to concentrate on a difficult problem at work, there is nothing like hearing "It will never work". Or becoming aware that a person with a Scots accent is haranging you.

There is no way to even know if your guides will use "speach" or sound. And it takes awhile to get used to hearing a sound like a 2x4 being swung as hard as possible against a wood floor in the middle of the night. Of course having them touch the hairs on your arm will bring you bolt upright out of a sound sleep as well.

If your guides want you to know something, they will get it across to you somehow. If they don't want you to know, they won't tell you however much you ask. My guides never speak to me as such. They always use visual imagery. Considering that all you will use on the other side will be NVC anyway sound might as well get as much practice as possible.
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Reply #4 - Oct 26th, 2005 at 10:14pm
 
I don't know how to "get" anything.  I just take what I'm given.  Sometimes I have strong visual, sometimes it is actual hearing, and sometimes it is a strong knowing sense.  Sometimes maybe a combination.  I haven't figured out how and why it works yet.
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Reply #5 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 6:13am
 
Richard, thanks so much for your input here.  I have to imagine that you are right about the accuracy of auditory information.  I know that in dreams I receive all kinds of interesting auditory info, including written word documents, and I simply can't bring them back into awareness.  During the dream I might be fascinated but it slips away so easily.

I agree that I must trust in the process in order to explore and learn, but in Bruce's books and cds there is evidence for and encouragement for auditory input.  I was just wondering why this part of the process seemed so much more difficult to me.  The cds encourage gathering of information from the retrievee, and I just get very little from that, at least so far.  Maybe it's just practice and I'm impatient.

I consider myself both a visual and auditory person, meaning that both are equally stimulating to me.  Well, onward thru the fog....and thanks all.

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Reply #6 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 6:38am
 
And I will check into those resources you mentioned, Richard, just to see.  I did a form of automatic writing in my teens...I just started doing it spontaneously.  Of course what came out was teenage angst in poetic form but also some other interesting things.  I'm sure I can do this, just not sure how.

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Reply #7 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:27am
 
Last night while meditating, I suddenly saw a clear image of a women smiling at me. Her face had a really nice vibe to it, and I could feel good vibes. She also looked really familiar.

Later on, while watching TV, I wondered if she looked familiar because I knew her before I was born.

During my second nightly meditation, I was kinda of hoping to see her again and start up a conversation, but it didn't work out that way.

After going to bed, I thought about it a bit before I fell asleep. The guidance I've been receiving hasn't come in the form of extended conversations with a spirit I see. It's come in dreams, images during meditation, intuitions, an occasional voice I'll hear, or occasional phrase or word that will come into my mind, that clearly comes from a place other than my ego mind.

It seems that it's better that I've received guidance in this way, because I've learned more this way than I would have learned if I received information in the form of an extended lecture.

I agree with comments about hearing voices. After a phrase or two things start to get muddled. Also, sometimes I'll see and hear people talking while I'm meditating, but it's hard to figure out what they're saying.

One time I was sent a phrase which told me that I'm being communicated to with "elegant allegories." The images I see, the dreams I have. They do say a lot, even if it takes some effort at times to figure out their meaning. They definitely seem to say more, than words alone.
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Reply #8 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:28am
 
I also agree with Richard's comment that it's harder to remember auditory messages than visual messages.

Plus, in the astral, I think things are communicated with thoughts, more than words.
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Reply #9 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:49am
 
I totally agree that it is good to be open to guidance in whatever form it appears, Recoverer.  It really is all around us, and I appreciate your frequent reminders to everyone to be open to this, as you are...

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Reply #10 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 3:45pm
 
Hi Blink, I think u started this topic? just sharing that everyone's different. I like the point where I'm just waking from sleep and some words in my head. just short messages as cannot retain rotes too well yet.
this morn I got only one word..Maltese. I think it's a particular eagle? well, I have no idea, if someone else does, would appreciate it. also there was some instruction about group dynamics going on.
C1 seems so hard to retain information, so I just work with it.
these messages seem like not from a guide separate from me, but rather my own self which is not fully active within C1. lol, I hope this other self is having fun at night!

Bruce called me an explorer. I think he was right. love and good tidings to you, alysia
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Reply #11 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 3:51pm
 
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Hi Alysia.  A Maltese is a dog, one of those little things that don't shed and that's why everyone likes them.  As far as maltese meaning anything else, I've never heard of it.
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Reply #12 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:01pm
 
thanks Vicky, I must have spelling wrong, as was associated with an eagle, so i will go look in the dictionary. but thanks!
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Reply #13 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:12pm
 
How about the country Malta. The people from there are Maltese?
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Reply #14 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 4:41pm
 
thanks Albert. I think I'm gonna have to back to sleep for this one....focus in as it were..I'm not good at spelling when I'm out there..once retrieved a little girl and had to ask her to spell her name three times... ???
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