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The Trouble with many paths to enlightenment
Oct 24th, 2005 at 7:05am
 
I think that this is also somewhat of a taboo complimentary thread to the one path to enlightenment issued earlier.  That is, is there truth out there that is real, or is everything subjective?

Many of us are open minded.  However, is everybody right to some extent?  Are right and wrong artificial labels placed on beliefs, or is there an ultimate truth (other than the fact that we and everyone in the universe are one)?

Let us take as an example a false chaneling.  Not one that anyone on this board knows.  Lets call him Ethan.  If Ethan comes through another with a message that sounds true, but the person chanelling is not really doing it (perhaps for monetary, fame or other reasons), what are we to make of these ideas?  Some may resonate with us.  In one sense, if it were a fraud, then saying the followers of Ethan were being misled, would be true.  In another light, if Ethan or the false speaker spoke of love, unity, and consciousness - some of the ideas may appear true to our intuition.

So, is there truth out there, an ultimate truth, or is everybody right? 

So then, when we see on these boards a myriad of opinions quoting Sweedenberg, Cayce, Monroe, Moen and others, it is easy in one sense to say that they are all right.  However, that is too PC for my tastes.  One has to remove what teachings resonate with our inner true self (as Alysia said about Elias), and try to make one's own connection to the universe.

This, above all, I feel is true.  That through meditation, relaxation, playful interactions with each other, we should experiment and learn to connect.

I'd be interested in hearing other thoughts on this thread, about truth and the specific example I gave.


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Matthew
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Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2005 at 8:07am
 
I agree with your post from the other thread, WF.

I guess I do believe that there is an objective truth and that not everybody is right so we say that these leaders all get to the same final truth.  I am not politically correct, and I feel that everyone is not right.

I saw an image of a mystical leader who was said to appear out of nowhere in Africa and then drive away in a limosine.  He was said by those present to be the Arab version of Christ.  I looked at the photo, and knew it was wrong (false).

So yes, WF.  We should gather our experience and knowledge, share and explore, try things on like one might try on new clothes, and then grow toward love and unity with everything.

Matthew
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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2005 at 10:15am
 
  Hi White Feather and Matthew,

  Personally, i've found the best way to find this more objective and Universal truth is to sift through all major belief systems and find where all, or many of them correlate on though they may use different words, phrases, or labels...

Seth is one i've looked into, which largely falls out of this correlating of core truths...  And i think thats why some people are attracted to this info, because they think it is different, or somehow new, and needing to be different themselves, it serves an ego purpose...  Not that i believe this applies to everyone who believes much in Seth.

There is nothing new under the Sun, these core Truths have been uttered and repeated since the earliest days of Humanity.

  So, yeah, i basically agree with you Matthew.

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Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2005 at 6:49pm
 
Justin,

Aldous Huxley's The Perennial Philosophy does just that.

I think the Monroe Institute and its graduates are pretty consistent in what they say.

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Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2005 at 8:20pm
 
Matthew said:  This, above all, I feel is true.  That through meditation, relaxation, playful interactions with each other, we should experiment and learn to connect.

I totally agree with you here, M.  You know, regarding all the channeling, does it matter what is true and what is not?  The world is full of fiction and nonfiction.  Who decides which is what? 

I'd have to say, don't believe everything you read.  But don't burn what you don't like either.  Book burning is bad.  Reading is good.

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