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mystic_dreamer
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Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #60 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 5:43pm
 
Justin!!!! Wow!! Holy Cow!!!!  Grin What an incredible response!! I loved reading all that....and I sure do appreciate all the time and effort that you put into writing all that. Very informative and thought provoking....thank you so much!! I have so much to say about it in turn...
First, I can't tell you how relieved I was to read your notes on the East Indian culture and the shift.....you know, there for awhile I was starting to wonder if I went bonkers or something.....I just haven't recieved this kind of repsonse from other children of other cultures...I was thinking that I was missing something!! So there is a significance to this ......and this is very interesting. Still I wonder why I am sensitized to it?
And then you mentioned some things on dreams that you have had concerning fire......when I read that, my heart leaped....why? Because after I started to recognize in myself (years ago) that I had some gift of future events (which normally come to me thru very specific dreams), I started to have recurring dreams (maybe once a year...but they are always the same) and that is of a hugely great explosion in the sky. It is not like a bomb going off...it is something in the sky...out in space but really close to earth. It's massive...frightening...and absolutely devastating to this planet. It is literally bringing shivers down my spine as I write this because of the impact that this explosion has on me.
In this dream...it is just a normal every day kind of day...and it is daytime...the sun is shining. For some reason I look out the window to see the sky and as I do this, I grab onto and hold my kids tightly to my body......a great fear of 'something' rips thru me...all in the same breath, a massive explosion in the skies and I am praying furiously....fear is huge...my heart is pounding...the skies turn a blood red color....it is the most fearful event ever. I wake up on seeing the skies turn a blood red...this whole dream is always the same...and causes me great anxiety for days afterwards........I wonder if this might be a similar vision that you see?
I have also had another dream, again I am huddled next to the window with my kids...this time it is at night and the skies are black. What has drawn me to the window is the sound of a trumpet, multiple trumpets.....and in my heart I know that this is a signal to look up to the skies. Again...there is fear but also anticipation. As I look up to the sky, it is like a black hole that is opening up...and coming from within this hole is great tuffs of crystal white fluffs of cloud...billowing like smoke. With each billow of white puffs of cloud, groups of angels...or cherubs??.....who are all blowing on these trumpets...more and more of these angels/cherubs come forward from within this array of cloud and sounds....and these sounds have turned from that of trumpets, to the most beautiful ever sounding musical formation of notes. My fear has turned to immense love and anticipation....suddenly, there are these beautiful white horses....with streaks of crystal or silver in their manes and tails....their nostrils are flared...they are galloping from within these cloud puffs....charging outwards and down towards the earth....and then I wake up.
Again I am left with very profound feelings from this dream that last with me for days.
Oh and Justin....I really love your song that you posted for me/fellow members to read. It really does remind me of MiKayla......she just wants to help people everywhere too!
Thanks for all this information.....I am going to re-read it again and again..... Wink
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Reply #61 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:39pm
 
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"Justin!!!! Wow!! Holy Cow!!!!   What an incredible response!! I loved reading all that....and I sure do appreciate all the time and effort that you put into writing all that. Very informative and thought provoking....thank you so much!! I have so much to say about it in turn... "


Am glad you appreciated it Mystic Dreamer.  I can't take all the credit, its not always me, sometimes its my friends who are a bit more intune than me (lol to say the least!).  Not much different than Bruce getting a lot of info from what he called C.W's, though my abilities don't compare to Bruce's.

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First, I can't tell you how relieved I was to read your notes on the East Indian culture and the shift.....you know, there for awhile I was starting to wonder if I went bonkers or something.....I just haven't recieved this kind of repsonse from other children of other cultures...I was thinking that I was missing something!! So there is a significance to this ......and this is very interesting. Still I wonder why I am sensitized to it?


 Well, i do believe this is a universal thing, though it may be more concentrated here and there.  It may also be that you have strong other life dynamics from this area, and so you respect the people and are attracted to them a lot?

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And then you mentioned some things on dreams that you have had concerning fire......when I read that, my heart leaped....why? Because after I started to recognize in myself (years ago) that I had some gift of future events (which normally come to me thru very specific dreams), I started to have recurring dreams (maybe once a year...but they are always the same) and that is of a hugely great explosion in the sky. It is not like a bomb going off...it is something in the sky...out in space but really close to earth. It's massive...frightening...and absolutely devastating to this planet. It is literally bringing shivers down my spine as I write this because of the impact that this explosion has on me.
In this dream...it is just a normal every day kind of day...and it is daytime...the sun is shining. For some reason I look out the window to see the sky and as I do this, I grab onto and hold my kids tightly to my body......a great fear of 'something' rips thru me...all in the same breath, a massive explosion in the skies and I am praying furiously....fear is huge...my heart is pounding...the skies turn a blood red color....it is the most fearful event ever. I wake up on seeing the skies turn a blood red...this whole dream is always the same...and causes me great anxiety for days afterwards........I wonder if this might be a similar vision that you see?


 Hmmm... i"ve been looking for people who have also seen this and no wonder i felt compelled to share this--even though many here might think me "doom and gloom" and/or delusional... Lol well if i'm either, i'm still a very happy joyful person so it doesn't matter...

   You know that us Capricorns are not explained very well in traditional astrology books at all, and we have a very bad rap.  Capricorn is actually one of the more innately or tending to be psychic signs--course there is much more to it than just the Sun sign to consider.   I once heard an astrology lecture where the teacher said that Capricorn is a very mediumistic sign.  Theres a lot more i could go into but this isn't really the place for it.  Sounds like you got the whole second sight thing going on too.

  I believe what you have been seeing is what i also have seen, but can't figure out what causes it.  From your description, it could be either the comet/asteroid or the Galactic explosion i've talked about.  But if it was the asteroid, then why would it explode while still in space unless when it hit the atmosphere, it broke apart and this created a large sonic boom?  Yet, what about this would cause the blood red skies?

 If it was a Galactic Super wave, i don't know if there would be a sound, but i guess there might be as there is a pressure/gravity wave that comes with it, though a bit delayed compared to the cosmic rays and other energies...  So we would feel it on some level before we saw it, and definitely before we felt and heard it.

 As soon as the debris is pushed into the Sun, the Sun itself would start to explode with huge CME's and in a very short time the sky would be very red and definitely darkened...  In the following weeks, because of the Solar energy being "stored" within the Earth, many volcanoes would go off, as well as huge earthquakes, and this would cause the sky to become much more darkened and the Sun would be little seen for a period.  Imagine nothing really too destructive happening during this time, but the sky being darkened and the Sun not really being seen to much.   This would have a strong, depressive effect on many people, just as in Norway, or in Seattle there is a higher suicide rate than average.   We don't realize how dependant we are on the Sun, and no wonder since materially it and water are the giver of life, and spiritually the Sun repesents the Spirit energy.

 No fear Mystic, replace the fear with Love and realize when this happens, this is our chance to get our act together and start building a civilization based on mutual love, kindness, and tolerance...  This, in the ultimate sense, is the most postive thing that could happen to us even though there will be pain.  As you Mothers know very well, there is almost always great pain before a beautiful birth...this is very similar..be happy and joyful for our Spirits and Mother Earth, and the collective growth and birth that comes from these changes.

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I have also had another dream, again I am huddled next to the window with my kids...this time it is at night and the skies are black. What has drawn me to the window is the sound of a trumpet, multiple trumpets.....and in my heart I know that this is a signal to look up to the skies. Again...there is fear but also anticipation. As I look up to the sky, it is like a black hole that is opening up...and coming from within this hole is great tuffs of crystal white fluffs of cloud...billowing like smoke. With each billow of white puffs of cloud, groups of angels...or cherubs??.....who are all blowing on these trumpets...more and more of these angels/cherubs come forward from within this array of cloud and sounds....and these sounds have turned from that of trumpets, to the most beautiful ever sounding musical formation of notes. My fear has turned to immense love and anticipation....suddenly, there are these beautiful white horses....with streaks of crystal or silver in their manes and tails....their nostrils are flared...they are galloping from within these cloud puffs....charging outwards and down towards the earth....and then I wake up.  
Again I am left with very profound feelings from this dream that last with me for days.
Oh and Justin....I really love your song that you posted for me/fellow members to read. It really does remind me of MiKayla......she just wants to help people everywhere too!
Thanks for all this information.....I am going to re-read it again and again.....  


 I haven't experienced the above dream you talked about, but it sounds very beautiful.  It seems like a real powerful spiritual event is going to take place around this time, but for whatever reason you conscious self filtered the dream somewhat through religious symbolism....  Some of the Angels and Cherubs, etc. may actually be our friends from other systems who will step in to help, if we are ready for it.   As well as the various Earth Light Beings who are just biding their time, for the right time.  Very powerful dream!   You have been shown much, and this probably means you will play a very helpful role when the time comes and your Total Self is preparing you for this, just as mine has...  To be blunt, many will die, but death is an illusion anyways, and they have pre agreed to this on some level.

 Am glad you like the song...  Almost everytime i think about it deeply, or listen to my fathers tape of it...  i start to cry, and i was crying when i wrote it for here.   It reminds me very deeply of my Soul purpose, and what i came for...its like striking the chord which is the same vibration of your inner self, and you just get chills, and a strange painful joy almost...

 Yes beautiful Mikayla will be helping many when the time comes as well.  She is strong, wise, loving, intuitive, and aware enough to help many, many people....  In the future, many of us will have more energy senstivity, and the people that will be put in leadership positions will be those like Mikayla, because they are truly leaders in every positive sense of the word.  I very much look forward to this, as people will as a whole be much happier, and our society won't be so much based on greed, power over others, materilism, and ego...

 The fearfilled ones fear and hate this coming day with a passion, and they are doing everything in their power to try and keep the same negative thought-form around humanity, so it is easier to manipulate...   We should send Love to them always, and keep in mind how much they must suffer when they have so cut themselves of from their True natures...

Your welcome, and i'm very appreciative that i helped to fill in some info for you.  Sometimes i feel a very strong urge to talk about the changes though i know most don't want to hear about these aspects, and i always try to listen to this strong urge.  My human self sometimes feels so deeply alone... and i'm glad that you've seen some of this too...makes me feel a little less alone lol how selfish of me...

Much Love and Appreciation
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Reply #62 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 9:41pm
 
Well this topic has turned so much more interesting that it's almost too much. I had been reading it all along but now it's just explosive.. lol

Mystic_dreamer, that recurrent dream of yours sounds way too much like the apocalypse thing written in the Bible. It's kind of creepy but relieving at the same time. I felt kind of proud for you while reading your post.. why? I dunno.. Smiley
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Reply #63 - Oct 28th, 2005 at 12:05am
 
Hi Tayo! Yes...this thread has become 'explosive'!!! lol......I guess you could say in more ways than one!! Justin has brought some really interesting information to this thread....I am really happy to know that you have been enjoying this so far!! These 2 dreams do sound rather like the writings in the Bible.....I don't believe that they were inspired by what I have read in the Bible tho....the impact, the feelings, everything is so realistic in these particular dreams. When I had the one about the explosion in the skies.....the first time I had that one, I was literally shaken by it for weeks. It left a real heavy and frightening feeling with me. I also felt really sad for my kids at the time because I felt that they would never get to experience life....and that really saddened me.
I have had several dreams of heavenly origin and I have written about them here before. I have also had many dreams of events that have come true....even of the death of my dad.....even the day and month was right.
That was a rather bizzare experience.......it started to happen over our Thanksgiving weekend up here (Canada)........I had a dream that death was about to come to someone very, very close to me. A calendar appeared before my eyes showing the day and the month. I remembered that dream as I awoke the next morning......within barely 20 minutes of my morning getting underway, I slammed my baby toe on my right foot into the corner of the wall.....breaking that poor little toe at the joint.
I did not know what was happening with my dad at that very moment...he lived in another town not far from me......no one knew what was happening to him actually until much later that night. He had fallen inside his apartment and broke his right hip that very same morning. No one found him until dinner time....he was banging SOS on the wall on the guy above him came home from work and heard it....immediately recognized what it was.....and ran down to help.
This all happened early in October.....he was scheduled to be released from the hospital just before Christmas.....they said he was doing awesome (he ended having a hip replacement because of the break). I sent him a Christmas card in the mail to his hospital room.....it read: Hey Dad!!! This is so great! You will be home for Christmas! We will have a big homecoming party for you when you get home! I know that I never tell you this....but I love you so much! You are the best dad in the world. I love you!'
The card arrived at his hospital room....he never got a chance to open it....he passed away that afternoon from a massive stroke. This happened on the day and in the month that I had the dream of. It all started with a broken right hip.....the same morning as I broke my right toe...after waking up from that dream of someone close to me dying on a specific day and month.
He did go home alright.....but not home with us.
I tend to respect these vivid, realistic type dreams that I have....and these other ones that I have mentioned here are no exception, to say the least.
Justin....you are not alone! You have very much similar ones to what I have....
I have never read that info about Capricorns that you mentioned, being mediumistic....I surely believe it tho. I have written about alot of experiences here that I have had over the years, beginning when I was a young child.....so what you have said really hits home with me in that respect.
I don't know what causes the explosion in the sky either......it is a massive one tho. In my dreams it seems to happen in the western sky....and the explosion itself seems to cover as much of the sky as the eye can see.
I don't know what follows the horses in that other dream either....I get the feeling that it is God tho....some great grand being or spiritual event.
Whenever I think of those dreams...a verse/reading from the Bible always comes to mind....and that is to watch the skies for the signs...look up to the skies.....
The colors in these dreams are brilliant....and the music that I hear in the one dream is something so beautiful....can't say that I have ever heard anything like it here in this time. Musical yet angelic......
I would like to hear more Justin.... Grin
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Reply #64 - Oct 28th, 2005 at 10:50am
 
 
I thought your dream about your Dad was very interesting Wink   I have had a lot of precog. dreams too, and i've noticed that the more intune one gets, the more literal and less symbolic these dreams become--as far as the precog ones.

 A little more from my friends and Total Self on the changes:   When the Galactic Center explodes and continually pulses for with its powerful energies which go "up" and "down" the vibratory scale all the way to the fastest vibration--Love, and when it stimulates the Sun, then the combination of these energies pouring into our Earth will have the affect to alter and mutate our D.N.A. and bring it up to a collectively faster vibration in physicality.  Btw--this pulsing with the Galactic Core is much like a great big Beating Heart of the Cosmos, yet this is but just a speck within the whole....

 Cayce Source mentions a new root race, which was seen by the prophets Ra and Thoth, and that this would develop as the changes develop...

 The last major change in human bodies happened 12,500 years ago during the Golden Age of Leo.  Ra, a life of Cayce's, was instruemental in preparing and faciliating this new root race evolution then, and he was working with some very evolved and intune Space brothers to make this change.   The Galactic Core may have been more active then too--at least i know there was also a Crustal shift that happened.

 These alterations to our species are very desirable, because they will allow us to express much faster vibrating Soul and Spirit energies while in the physical...  Our bodies are very dense right now (which makes it harder to express refined and faster vibrating energies of the Soul/Mind and Spirit Forces), but in the future they will be less dense and more towards what we call the etheric--which is more directly malleable by thought.

Light Beings, can alter very dense physical energies just by thought alone, but the majority of us will not be at that level for quite awhile, meanwhile these changes to physicality will allow us to manipulate our own realities/bodies more so, on average.

 Sickness will be virtually unknown as these DNA changes take place, and our psychic abilities will be much, much more increased on average...  Note that some sub-races, particularly those descended from the Atlantean blood like the Celts, the Iraqious, the Basques, and a few others, tend to have more people among them that are more innately psychic.   Why, because the Atlantean peoples were very psychic as a whole, and this carries over physically into the genetic pattern, and so souls who come to manifest strong psychic abilities often choose those types of bodies because they resonate, or are in sympathetic vibration with the purpose and abilties they came to have and express.  Of course, it doesn't have to be the case, and we all can awaken these abilities to some degree or other... What we are talking about are natural innate tendencies and patterns.  Like being born under Capricorn inclines a person towards certain expressions and tendencies, see?

 Our friends from other systems are also very much involved in refining our DNA, and much work is being done along these lines, especially etheric body energy work.  

 Before my Mother became pregnant with me, she had a very intense dream of being on board a ship with some very familar, friendly, loving, but impersonal beings...  Before this, all my mothers other pregnancies had failed, and she had had many a miscarriage.  The doctors told her that she would never be able to have a child because of childhood illnesses.

 I don't doubt that they helped her body so that she could become successfully pregant, and while she was i believe they worked on the fetus that was going to be chosen vehicle for expression...  I wouldn't be suprised in something like this happened with MiKayla and her Mother--though her mother may never remember this.

 I had a dream a little while ago, where some of my more intune and intelligent friends from other systems told me that in the decade of 2010 (so anytime between 2010 to 2019) there would be tens (?) of ships sent publically to Earth, and in the near future after this, when we built 3 ships of our own, like theirs, would be a significant time for humanity.

 I know i will be there when they come down, and i will play a role as faciliator and diplomat between some of thse beings and us.  This will because i will be in a leadership position at this point.

Not strangely, this is a role i've played in some other cycles.  Its amazing how much gets played out in a similar way, with only some minor variations here and there...  Its almost like time and history are much more cyclical, and like a great symphony, there are only so many major expressions (chords) and so eventually it gets replayed but with minor changes in the tempo and specific tones.

Interesting times indeed!   Yet so familar too on some many levels and nothing really "new" Wink
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Reply #65 - Oct 28th, 2005 at 11:04am
 
"...  I know i will be there when they come down, and i will play a role as faciliator and diplomat between some of thse beings and us.  This will because i will be in a leadership position at this point..."


Justin

All that you told us makes sense and I really like reading about your experiences. But some times it sounds too proud like if you were kind of a superior being. I’m saying that because I learnt that the superior souls tend to be people who express humility they are not too proud. So can you help to understand you better related to the quote I posted above?  I hope I’m not hassling you.
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Reply #66 - Oct 28th, 2005 at 11:52am
 
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Justin

All that you told us makes sense and I really like reading about your experiences. But some times it sounds too proud like if you were kind of a superior being. I’m saying that because I learnt that the superior souls tend to be people who express humility they are not too proud. So can you help to understand you better related to the quote I posted above?  I hope I’m not hassling you.


Nope friend, no offense taken...  I see what you are saying.   There is a thing i've learned called "false humility" and i do not believe that we are meant to hide our Light.  My Light is no greater or less than yours or anyone.

If people choose to look at it that way, thats fine, but we are ALL amazingly beautiful, powerful, Light filled Beings meant to be Co-Creators with God Allmighty.

 Some, just don't know their Light as much.  Is it pride and arrogance to say that i've come to help to help be a wayshower?  Perhaps, and i use to think of it that way, but then i realized that as long as i don't think of myself as "special", then there is no problem with simply honesty.

 Did any of the spiritual Teachers that came to Earth hide their Light?  No, they were very honest and i'm sure that many thought some of them were full of themselves...  People certainly disliked and thought that of Yeshua when he was around, did they not?

 I'm not fit to tie Yeshua's sandal straps, i come to prepare the way for his return, as many of you have, but i am no lesser than my Elder brother...  He is just farther along the path in Knowing his True Self...

 Is it pride, ego, and arrogance for Bruce to have stated that he is part of Bob Monroes Disk?  Or that he came as a facilator too?   Bruce strikes me as a very down to earth, loving person who has learned a lot...  I think he was simply being honest, and sharing because there was a more universal lesson involved.

 I appreciate your feedback, but honestly i'm not overly concerned with what others think of me, nor should i be.  It is the false self that needs this, and approval, i don't need this so much anymore.  I will not, nor cannot hide my Light, though oft times i do tone it down a bit, if i feel it will help others.

 Could you perhaps be projecting?  We must always look to self first before we say this or that to others....  It is good to judge concepts, but not good to judge people.  When addressing others, i try to stick to the concept and beliefs...  For example, recently i got a strong perception of someone, that they were suffering because they weren't taking responsibility for the reality they were creating and attracting for themselves..   I percieved this person to be very proud, stubborn, and a bit manipulative.  So when i told this person my perception about how they were creating their reality, i did it respectfully but impersonally and firm.

 Yet, even while telling her this and seeing right through false self, i was seeing double vision, and also seeing her as her True Self--a beautiful and perfect child of God--my only motivation was to help her false self see why it was suffering, and i was addressing a Universal truth, i know from personal experience to be true.  We often immensely dislike the teachers that come along in our life, whether they be individuals or life circumstances--buts it only our egos which react to them, and because it is our ego/false self--we react with fear, dislike, bitterness, and often even hate....

 And more Light one has made themselves a channel for, the more polarized and extreme the ego reactions which are drawn from those who choose to function from their false selves.  This was seen very powerfully in the life of Yeshua...His Light was so great and powerful, it polarized the entire Fear thoughtform vibrations of the Earth, and boy how so many hated him and despised him for his Light?

 Though sometimes i say "I" oft, for me, "I" is often thought of in the collective sense.  Have known since little that we are all One and this has only grown stronger.  I will continue to be misunderstood, but i will not go out of my way to be understood, accepted, or to appear "more human".  Frankly, i want to get past the human part and remember what i am truly--A Co-Creative Perfect Being of Light with God.  Yes, i still have ego and i still occasionally function from my false self, but i'm self-honest to the point where i know immediately when i come from my True Self, or my false little separated self..

With Love and Appreciation
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Reply #67 - Oct 28th, 2005 at 12:01pm
 
Also my friend, I always keep in mind Yeshua's frequent statement of himself and what he could do in the Earth plane "It is not me that accomplishes these miracles, it is the Father that worketh in and through me."  Or, "Not of myself do i do these things, but of the Father"

  I very much feel the same way, and i only look at myself as a conduit, or channel though not in the mediumistic way.  I am simply making myself a fit channel for the Creative Forces.

  We, as a drop of water out of the Ocean, have no power to speak of....  But when we become aware of our true heritage, and when we join the rest of the Ocean--All Power and Knowledge is restored unto us.
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Reply #68 - Oct 28th, 2005 at 12:15pm
 
wow! So tank God that you are among us. I would appreciate all that you could teach me.

Thanks in advance anyway.
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Reply #69 - Oct 29th, 2005 at 12:09am
 
Hi Kardec,

I do appreciate the sentiment, but i've found that "life" is usually our best teacher...and suffering...at some point on some deep level we just become sick of suffering, and so we seek to change the condition.  The last Buddha outlined these principles really well and i recommend his teachings on this very much.

 Yes, individual teachers can be a help, but more than that we need to rely on our own connection to Total/Higher Self.  The best teachers are those that teach by example primarily, and not so much by telling you stuff--though this plays a part at times.  Part of the reason why an indvidual teacher can be extremely helpful is that, if they know themselves very well they are more effective...  Because when you know yourself very well and can see through your own b.s./crap, and love yourself, and are more a channel for the True Self--then you can see almost automatically and deeply through anothers bs/crap and self-dishonesty.... and in the right moments, you can point out to them, "brother/sister, you are hurting yourself, there is a different way."   Sometimes its best not to tell them this, especially if their connection to the Real Self is fragile and inconsistent or the personality is a weaker (self percieved) and wishy washy, sometimes its best to be quiet and just send love, or to try and concentrate on something you percieve of them to be coming more from the True Self and support and build this aspect...  Yet, it never does much good to support their false self, and unhealthy habits.  For example, you don't tell an alcoholic, "yeah hey its fine to drink and not take responsibilty for your own suffering--its not you, its others and life that makes you unhappy, etc., etc."

 Thats one of the main problems with people and spiritual growth...  Much expanded growth requires great and ruthless self honesty...  In turn ruthless self honesty is very painful to the ego, and even many a spiritual person could be more self honest with themselves.  Cayce's Source use to say, "Try to stand outside of self and watch self pass by." and at other times he remarked that so few seem to do this, or are willing....   If this was the case, we would have many more actualized spiritual masters than we do.   We have come to idealize and subtly but powerfully protect our illusions, and for a lot of people it takse a "shocker" or extreme condition to help wake them up (like Dannion Brinkley and being struck by lightening and a NDE)--Hence the physical changes that will happen--individual self dishonesty is a microcosm of the greater microcosm of the collective and the changes and why they need to happen lol and many even try to convince themselves that this doesn't need to happen!   As long as we are the way we are, it does.

 Through certain life circumstances that i prechose, i have had to be very self honest with myself--almost forcing me to bend, or to break--i chose to bend, and i have known the very dark pit and depths...  I use to be a very extreme person and not very healthy or self loving.

 Besides,  i do not feel ready to teach in that manner and it is not time.  When i'm older and more mature, greater will be the material demonstrations and manifestations that come from a more consistent and stronger attunement to the Creative Forces.

 Best advice i can give from experience is to just take it day by day, keep a vigilant watch on our unreal/illusionary/ego nature, yet at the same time being more accepting of self and our mistakes...  Self condemnation is just as unhealthy as condemning others, and it often leads to condemning others.

 I'm going to start a thread on the Off topic heading, about teachers both life and individuals, and how love is not always being obviously nice on the surface...  For example, is it loving to give a piece of candy to a diabetic child when you know it may be potentially very harmful, even though he really, really wants a piece?  You know better than the child, and so you won't indulge him or her, yet the child seeing your refusal may not like you and may pull a temper tantrum because they are not getting their way.....  Other times, you just have to let the child learn for themselves, and let them burn their hand on the stove, though you don't want to see them get hurt--but you know that self experienced suffering lessons are often the most effective and long lasting ones....

 Life, people and their egos are much like that, and i really, really very strongly feel this is something that could stand to be clarified to the nth degree, and in as logical and clear way as possible.

With Love
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