Copyrighted Logo

css menu by Css3Menu.com


 

Bruce's 5th book, a Home Study Course, is now available.
Books & Tapes by Bruce Moen
    Bruce's Blog now at http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/blog....

  HomeHelpSearchLoginRegister  
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 
Send Topic Print
Indigo Kids (Read 31901 times)
Lights of Love
Super Member
*****
Offline


Afterlife Knowledge Member

Posts: 881
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #30 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 2:57pm
 
Recoverer, I would agree with what you say here regarding labels as not one of us is more special or less special than another.  Each of us is unique within our own individual path of discovery and healing.

Love, Kathy Smiley
Back to top
 

Tread softly through life with a tender heart and a gentle, understanding spirit.
 
IP Logged
 
spooky2
Super Member
*****
Offline


Afterlife Knowledge Member

Posts: 2368
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #31 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 5:22am
 
Hi Mystic Dreamer,
thank you very much for telling us about your granddaughter!

For now, I just call her highly intelligent or prodigy child. I just want to tell you about the vicious circle which could take place when those kids go to school (or even kindergarten!). Sometimes it happens that highly intelligent children become loosers in school. How does this happen? In the first time they say what they have to say only to hear from the teacher "Yes, fine, we'll come to it later" or sth similar. Those children will feel that their input is not appropriate and welcomed. The questions teachers ask are so simple for them that they would feel embarassed to answer them. They get bored with it. So some will just become absent in school and do their own thing (including play the clown etc.) so it will lead to bad marks, and this could be like a confirmation that their presence is not wanted. So the final danger would be they get disintegrated not only in school but also in society in general. So, a special school for high intelligents is not only for school success, but firstly for their own personal growing and welfare.
I don't care for diploma or career, but for people to be happy, and to experience you can share and develop your gifts with society is an important thing for being happy. So, if you could have a look what's going on in kindergarten or school in this regard I talked about above, that would be fine.

I wish you three good and miraculous times together,
bye, Spooky
Back to top
 

"I'm going where the pavement turns to sand"&&Neil Young, "Thrasher"
 
IP Logged
 
Justin2710
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #32 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 9:23am
 
Spooky2 wrote, Quote:
I just want to tell you about the vicious circle which could take place when those kids go to school (or even kindergarten!). Sometimes it happens that highly intelligent children become loosers in school. How does this happen? In the first time they say what they have to say only to hear from the teacher "Yes, fine, we'll come to it later" or sth similar. Those children will feel that their input is not appropriate and welcomed. The questions teachers ask are so simple for them that they would feel embarassed to answer them. They get bored with it. So some will just become absent in school and do their own thing (including play the clown etc.) so it will lead to bad marks, and this could be like a confirmation that their presence is not wanted. So the final danger would be they get disintegrated not only in school but also in society in general. So, a special school for high intelligents is not only for school success, but firstly for their own personal growing and welfare.


 You betcha!  I don't know about other children's experience, but what you described above fit my childhood pretty darn well.

 First problem started because i had fairly bad hearing throughout most of my childhood--due to constant earaches and really bad ear absesses (1 of the most painful things i've experienced next to being scalded and kicked in the nads!).

 And somehow, i would always get managed to be put in the back of class--dunno, maybe cause my last name starts with a "W"..     So, half the time i couldn't hear what was going on, and felt too embarrassed to ask regulary--i was an extremely self-conscious from a very young age....

 They wanted to keep me back in 1st grade, but my Mom said no way, and why don't you start putting him in the front of the class.  

 So, they started doing this, and then i excelled (i also had surgery for ear tubes later on)--it was so easy for me, i almost had a photographic memory then, a sharpness of mind, and a depth of thought that few kids had... I was also extremely lonely, shy, and isolated.  During early grades, during class down time, i would just sit in the corner by myself drawing (i was a very good artist from a young age).  This whole isolation and shy thing was compounded by my family moving alot and some major family problems..

 I did so well up through till 6th grade, that one of my elementary schools, thought it would be best for me to go into an advanced school...   Around this time--10-11yrs of age or so, i was having extreme "emotional" and coping problems...  My mom thought there might be something wrong with me...sooo she had me extensively tested.  They told my mom that i was brilliant, and borderline genius.

 I moved yet again when starting 6th grade, and that combined with the twinges of puberty, and sheer boredom in school, i failed misaberly...mostly cause i was so depressed so much of the time, that i just didn't give a rat's arse.  And, around age 13, i became aware of the Earth Changes, and a few years later learned some of the stuff that might happen--so i said to myself--"if this crappy stupid greedy, selfish white man dominated civilizaton is going to collaspe anyways, whats the point of going to college etc.."

 I rarely ever mention any of this stuff (especially the borderline genius thing), because 1, what does it really matter, and 2 nobody really cares anyways.

I share it for any young people reading this, and who are depressed and discouraged...  You're definitely not alone, and 1 strong word of advice...  Look into dietary, holistic health changes and some form of light but consistent exercise.  This helped me tremendously to overcome my depression--that and a huge attitude change with a concentrated and conscious spiritual approach to life--with the ideal of Impersonal Love at its core.

 Also helps to use some aids in the beginning, just to help balance, clear, and strengthen your energies... Wear a stone in which you are really attracted too, or if you know your predominant mental aura color--go with that color of stone--it almost always work because of sympathetic vibration.

 
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
LaffingRain
Super Member
*****
Offline


Choose this Day

Posts: 5249
Arizona
Gender: female
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #33 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 10:09am
 
Hi Justin. I guess I never told u this but I was secretely glad and excited the first time u began posting on this forum! now that you've shared your story I read between the lines where you have come from and how u got here I see the dream interaction was correct where I saw you; we had conversation, but I was sensing this spirits background...which was not found in the surface conversation we had..not knowing then anything about your childhood. and I am interested! there are people who care...it's more like your tag says it all and touched me. your background  I sensed, had been risen above, the dream suggested you had mastered something intense and now u wanted to share your gifts and your spirit was benevolent beyond compare. I am of course wrapped still in my own world and marveling at these dreams I have which reveal all I need to know for the moment.
it takes courage to tell our stories..I've watched myself gathering courage through the years, knowing that I wanted to work in the field of communication rather than any other field, or perhaps writing is included in "the Arts." don't know for sure. but I sense a new courage in you too! I for one, enjoy reading you also and somehow you have always been in the right place at the right time and will continue to be so. my opinion. now, reading you, I see I greatly underestimated what that dream told me! I must make a notation in my dream log that I have this tendency to see a partial picture within subconscious areas, then physical reality manifestation supplies another piece of the picture which makes the completed picture a sort of mind blower! this only convinces me of the simultaneous connection of events in time, and reveals  linear time dreaming to be the forerunner of physical manifestation events. thus, time alludes to an event which is already set up to happen. my, what a strong illusion is linear time!  we made this up, omgod, I am cracking up with laughter! nobody will believe me...only a few..oh well, it must be said anyway.

heres what I have to say to you in conclusion from within my spirit!  ... ... ... ...
Back to top
 

... Who takes away death's sting deprives life of bitterness
WWW http://www.facebook.com/LaughingRain2  
IP Logged
 
mystic_dreamer
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #34 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 10:30am
 
Hey Spooky....what you have said about how these kids respond in school and flunking out is so true and I have been worrying about this very thing.

After reading the talk here on this topic, I have some things to add. As for myself, I am not trying to establish bragging rights.....not that it has been assumed by anyone. Speaking for my granddaughter, she is very intelligent, far beyond her little years. It is already evident that she is not  fitting into kindergarden...the other kids are clearly in their niche...she is not. She is not stimulated or challenged and is getting bored already. But it's not really a matter of needing a challenging program...it's far above that. It's hard to put a finger on it actually....I think if you could imagine, putting her into a group of students who are in their final year of a bachelor degree in the sciences...that is where her challenge level would be....that stuff would interest her. No, I am not saying that she knows that stuff at this time...but that is the level of challenge she needs and that she would be able to understand and tweek her interest. Yes, she is just a child..and needs that child stuff in her life...to play with dolls...play house...swing and play in the dirt......but guess what? She isn't interested in those things. Not by anyone's choice or pushing but by her own...she is instead checking out her dinosaur bones under the microscope. She is learning about the planets, where they are in the solar system....she is really into that stuff...she knows their names, knows all the rings of Saturn....many of them she can tell you what gasses are predominent on each planet......I can't follow her cuz I don't have a clue what she is talking about. She gets alot of her information from shows on tv. That is where her interest is. She knows so much about green house gasses.....what is causing them, what they will do....she is talking all about the weather patterns..
She is clearly on a path that is much different from the norm.....she is seeking something that is far out of my realm of understanding...and it has nothing to do with math or reading. I can't even understand it myself....I just know it's there...I can see it in her eyes, feel it in her heart...it's like I know her soul is yearning to get the job done...whatever that job is. And that is the key phrase: whatever that job is......and I don't even think she knows what it is either. But she sure does have this interest in talking to people at the university and she sure has a thing about the environment......she doesn't get that from her mother and recycling at home either....her mother frequently gets a speaking to about 'what she just did'. (litter bug)

Well.....there is no one telling her that she is special in any other way than other kids...what she is told is that she is very special to us and that we love her more than anything. She is never told that she is gifted or better, different than any other child. We don't push any of this stuff on her...she is doing it to herself, because she has the interest and the desire to learn it and have it in her life.
Lets face it, you can't make a kid want to learn what they don't want to learn.
She was never one of those kids whose mother was pumping love songs or stories at her while she was still in the womb either. .....no, not from my daughter! You know how some mothers/parents are...trying to create a smart and advanced kid....even before birth.

No one tells her that she is gifted...or different in any way. For one thing, I know better than that...I have spent years studying child physcology and worked in the business of childcare education. It is highly detrimental to a child's overall health to try to make them out to be something that they aren't.

My daughter doesn't have a clue about any of these things....all she knows and understands is that her daughter is smart. However I have seen that there is something about MiKayla that goes beyond smarts and I have seen it since the moment that we first looked into each others eyes....when she was only hours old.

MiKayla doesn't need anyone to tell her that she is different is some way...she already knows it...but she doesn't see it as being different...to her, her intelligence, interest and desire is all normal....and what she is continually seeking is only a normal quest in her daily life. It's not different for her. She doesn't see herself as different from other kids her age either....she tolerates them, plays with them...but it isn't enough. She told me just the other day: 'Trinity doesn't talk very well. But that is ok...she will get better at talking. She is still my friend'.
'I am going to help my friends recognize their names on their name cards. They can't read yet'

hmmmmmmmm, I can't see my little shortstop sitting amongst university graduates conversing in an intense scientific discussion...but that is exactly where she would be happy to sit and listen and take part.

She only needs encouragement, acknowledgement of her achievements, TONNES OF LOVE,  and an open door of opportunity to grow.

No one needs to tell these kids who they are, what they are....they already are beginning to get a grip on these things themselves...they will confirm this within themselves. They already know that they are in pursuit of something good....many don't know just what it is yet....but they will...just as you or I have come to find our own spirituality.
I think that from day one they already know that they are on a path of complexity and what the content of that is will be a struggle in itself. And once they find what it is that their soul is searching for....or the 'place to be'........bingo...the light is on and then you just watch what they will do! That is the moment of true realization. Look out!

As for 'labels'........I was actually offended by that word. It isn't a label. It's no different than anything else in our vocabulary of understanding 'what is not the same as something else'...........we have ADHD, AUTISTIC. MENTALLY CHALLENGED, GENIOUS, CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED, SPECIAL NEEDS, HIGH SOCIETY, LOW INCOME FAMILIES, MILLIONAIRES, CELEBRITIES, RACES, NATIONALITY,........the list goes on and on........referring to a specific group of children coming in as Indigo or Crystal is really no different. It only allows our brain a distinction from other. We need distinction...we can't all be the same. However, we are all the same in that we are human....we feel the same emotions. We have bone and flesh...we are people. We are the same. But we are all different...that is what makes us individual.
Who in their right mind is going to point it out 'here is an Indigo child' any more than they would say, 'here is an Autistic child'? No..everyone is different but yet we are the same.
I don't believe I ever said that she was definitely Indigo.....I believe she may very well be tho....and either way, she is loved just as much. Only the future will show the world for sure...time will tell.

For many of the Indigo/Crystal kids who are now adults and just entering that self discovery......have you read their testimonies on how suddenly feel so much better...like their eyes have been opened and now they are realizing that they have something to do?? They have had these feelings and interests but never had a clue as what to do with them? Now they find the purpose, have found something completely unique and important to do with themselves...and it's a feeling like they have just 'come home'......maybe this delayed reaction is because there wasn't much knowledge/acknowledgement in prior years over these kids.....not understanding why they funked out of school...why they have never fit in....just these feelings of being losers...having done nothing with themselves....so yes Spooky, a school for higher intelligence! A school not to just build on that intelligence, but to aid in a education different from the norm...abstract.
Maybe in 5 years from now we have as many adults just 'getting' it.......now that we have more insight and understanding today. The idea is to help all kids grow, learn and mature into adults. No matter what type of needs the child has. And it's not up to us as to who they will become....that is their discovery to find. As adults, all we can do is offer encouragement, love and opportunity.
I don't know....if this made any sense at all.  Tongue
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
mystic_dreamer
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #35 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 10:49am
 
.............. Tongue.last paragraph.....'have LESS adults just getting it...'!!!   Tongue

Justin....just had to remark on your post that I only saw after my last one went up.....what you said about being lonely, shy.....artistic from an early age.....wow...just like her! The artistic point really stood out.....it's phenomenal. She is no 'picasso'.......but she has been drawing great stuff since she was a year old.....heheheheee, I have a pic that she drew of me when she was one.....complete with hair, eyelashes, fingers and toes...clothes...the sun and flowers in the yard...birds in the sky. I faxed it to everyone I knew...lol....and now it sits framed on the piano. Her drawings have long since surpassed anything that her mom ever did and I thought that her mom was quite talented all her life. So ya, everything that you have just said sure does ring true over here..... Wink
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
LaffingRain
Super Member
*****
Offline


Choose this Day

Posts: 5249
Arizona
Gender: female
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #36 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 11:11am
 
Hi Mystic! wow! I got the feeling you have agreed to be a sort of guardian for this child, not to take her into your home, but be there for her until her body reaches maturity and she appears to be an adult already within spiritual dimension. don't worry about bragging rights! you certainly have them! Cheesy what an adventure to be grandmother to such a light! as you know, i am wishing to be grandmother also and seeing the beauty of that role...while you already possess it. your own life as described on this forum has also been unusual. I have always been proud of you as I got to know you from my limited viewing position here.
new schools for these children? yes, or just new teachers perhaps, or a new curriculum which begins to teach children the basics first..such as who and what you are, right along with the abc's and 2+2=4. I was thinking home schooling would be a new trend; you know, you may have to crack open a biology or science book with her Wink I can see you two in my mind; Mystic and Mikayla, snugged up in a recliner chair, a book on your lap and she thanking you for it down the line! they probably won't take her into the university unless she took the entrance exams and passed. please don't let them make her into a guini pig with the electrodes on the brain and all of that..there might be a few who would want to study her this way..and it's not beneficial to the child, but you already know this I assume. there is a school called Montessori, I believe which is based on individual assessment of children and individual attention. I don't think public school will be right for her; not enough opportunity to express individuality there in general.
I leave you with this thought from DP my guide:"and a little child shall lead them..."
...
Back to top
 

... Who takes away death's sting deprives life of bitterness
WWW http://www.facebook.com/LaughingRain2  
IP Logged
 
mystic_dreamer
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #37 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 11:31am
 
.....I have got to get ready for work.....but OMG Alysia, you have hit on something that just had a temendous impact on me! Her guardian.....you have no idea how that fits with me...how I feel about her and how we react together. That one word: guardian has somehow changed something in me...... ???
...for the good of course!
You know how people talk about in having found their soul mate? It feels almost what that would be like, but different. Her and I have this 'click' of some kind....it's stronger than a bond. It is so much different than a bond....hard to explain.
When she was just hours old and they brought her out of icu I got to hold her while my daughter was sleeping (go figure!).....I held her up and looked straight into her eyes and those eyes of hers, wide open, alert and searched my insides out...it felt like she stripped my soul down learning everything possible in just mere minutes.
I had tracked down a rocking chair...the only one in the entire hospital....and found a retired storage room and had a nurse drag that chair in there....and there  I sat in dim light with this little newborn.....and rocked her gently for 'hours'...feeling her warmth, trust, love....singing quietly to her...the most beautiful time together that I have ever known. I wasn't about to give her up to anyone, not even to my daughter for feedings!
But that was the start of the bond....and to this day...we are 'one' with each other. She is completely different around me than she is with anyone else, including her own mom. She talks to me about deeply personal things to her...she shows a level of emotion with me that no one else see's....I know what she needs before she does. It's way too natural...I have never experienced anything like this before. And you are right...it feels like I am her real life guardian angel....hmmmmmmm, I have been calling her my baby angel since she was born!
You always say such nice things.....you are so sincere in everything that you say......thanks!! Wink...but you know, you have helped me to grow....did you know that??  Wink
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
recoverer
Super Member
*****
Offline


Afterlife Knowledge Member

Posts: 5027
Gender: male
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #38 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 11:36am
 
Mystic Dreamer:

It sounds like it will be an exciting adventure to see how things turn out. Hopefully throughout the years, you'll let us know how things turn out.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Justin2710
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #39 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 11:39am
 
 Hi Alysia,

 Thank you for the kind and encouraging words Smiley

Just keep in mind...I was born with Leo Rising Roll Eyes and flattery is the last thing us Big Cats need Grin


Hi Mystic Dreamer,

 I get the sense that your Grandaughter is beyond me, vibrationally speaking.  Nurture her well....  Btw-- Being versed in astrology, i would like to see her B-chart--do you know where, when, and what time she was born?

 I cannot tell if she is direct from another system... but believe it is a strong possibility--the eyes in Old Earth Souls are intense too, but the eyes of these Souls...can be something else.

If she is coming in direct from another more expanded system, her chart won't mean much though....

With Love,
Justin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
LaffingRain
Super Member
*****
Offline


Choose this Day

Posts: 5249
Arizona
Gender: female
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #40 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 12:13pm
 
Justin I'm not flattering a big cat...I'm celebrating one! I don't flatter people anymore. Wink love, alysia
Back to top
 

... Who takes away death's sting deprives life of bitterness
WWW http://www.facebook.com/LaughingRain2  
IP Logged
 
mystic_dreamer
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #41 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 1:09pm
 
lol.....Justin!!! Of course I know the details of her birth!! lol  ! I was right there!! Check out your messages...I sent it to you!
I am really interesting to hear what you find...so please be sure to let me know!

The Montessori schools are an excellant point Alysia.....as far as I have ever been concerned, those are the best schools around. In their own way, they promote a sense of spiritual awareness/growth. They help kids learn to focus on the beauty of life and to use their new founding skills in an atmosphere free of redicule and comparison. They are able to learn at their own rate and to experiment freely. Freedom of thought and speech is encouraged. These schools are excellant and would be a great choice for all kids to attend.
Anyway...c'ya all later gators! 8)
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
LaffingRain
Super Member
*****
Offline


Choose this Day

Posts: 5249
Arizona
Gender: female
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #42 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 7:26am
 
Mystic, this morning in the inbetween state where I get one-word messages, sometimes lucky enough to get three words, but I got the word Astro, and then it connected to the word physics.
immediately, before coffee even! I went to the dictionary; I copied and pasted the definition for Mikayla as I was reminded this is probably her field of expertise:
                      astrophysics

The branch of astronomy devoted to the study of the physical characteristics and composition of objects in the sky. Typical concerns of astrophysics are how much light the stars give off and the size, mass, and temperature of planets and stars.
_____
I believe she has brought this knowledge with her into this life, the same way Beethoven started playing the piano right off the bat!  I think you are supposed to get her a book, one with diagrams.....Cheesy
love, alysia  ps. it's not my field, I'm more into astral planes...and I'm still groggy from sleep when Mikayla's name popped into mind.
Back to top
 

... Who takes away death's sting deprives life of bitterness
WWW http://www.facebook.com/LaughingRain2  
IP Logged
 
mystic_dreamer
Ex Member


Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #43 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 1:45pm
 
Hey Alysia.....a book with diagrams for her?? or are the diagrams for me??? !!!   Tongue
Hahahaha, most likely for me! As I have never heard of astrophysics before and it's a darn good thing that you provided some explanation of it
However....I do think that you have got something here. Just the other day, out of the blue, she told me that the sun was a star...and then she asked me if I knew that. Well...I have never actually thought of it myself...just thought the sun was 'the sun'!
Many times she has said to me: I know you don't understand meema (she calls me 'meema')...so I will try to make it easy for you.   Tongue
Well gee...at least someone understands my simple mind!
She has asked me if I have ever wondered what it would be like to go into the sky and visit all the stars out there......she never said she wanted to do it or wondered herself what it would be like, she wanted to know if I ever wondered about it myself.
I am going to buy one of these books on the subject that you are talking about and introduce it to her....and see what happens. I am really interested in seeing her expression and interest.
Thanks Alysia.... Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
LaffingRain
Super Member
*****
Offline


Choose this Day

Posts: 5249
Arizona
Gender: female
Re: Indigo Kids
Reply #44 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 9:14pm
 
Mystic, you seem to be having so much fun, what a darlin she seems like! tell her maybe the 3 of us can astral travel to the stars sometime, I would really like to meet her. say hello to her for me! I've been wanting to walk straight into a planet and have look around the surface too...love, alysia
Back to top
 

... Who takes away death's sting deprives life of bitterness
WWW http://www.facebook.com/LaughingRain2  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 
Send Topic Print


This is a Peer Moderated Forum. You can report Posting Guideline violations.