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Is PUL super glue?
Sep 28th, 2005 at 10:08am
 
I can understand the possibility of a spirit coming in and trying to "influence" your thoughts, but what about taking control of them?

Say you have a really good core, and you are committed to higher qualities such as unconditional love. Would "pure unconditional love (PUL)" act as a "superglue" that would prevent any entity from disassembling your positive thought forms?

P.S. Don't just sniff the glue. INHALE IT, and kill a few ego cells.
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Reply #1 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 11:12am
 
Hi there...due to an experience I had where I fought between fear and love, or like good will versus ego power (the wish to control and put self first)

due to this experience, what was supremely important that I choose between love and fear, ego or God of my being. this was impressed to me to make my choice now..so I chose love as I was thinking of Christ, that kind of love.  then I went along in life and found out that I had to remake the choice as I went. apparently, we only have that much freedom of expression here in physical, to continually make our choice between those two ideas, or feelings, but pretty soon you do get fortified by this continual choice you make and pretty soon (well, 40 years for me anyway lol) you can see that fear is receding and cannot penetrate what is love and the will to love. then you are empowered and can heal others with this empowerment if they come to you for a healing, or are placed in your path by guides. love, alysia
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Reply #2 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 2:17pm
 
Thank you Alysia:

40 years? You've definitely been going at this thing longer than me. In the fear vs. love department, love seems to be winning out. But the way my experience has been expanding,  fear does still creep in at times. It's like, "just in case fear." I intend to get over it. Goodness knows, that I'm being provided with help.

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Hi there...due to an experience I had where I fought between fear and love, or like good will versus ego power (the wish to control and put self first)

due to this experience, what was supremely important that I choose between love and fear, ego or God of my being. this was impressed to me to make my choice now..so I chose love as I was thinking of Christ, that kind of love.  then I went along in life and found out that I had to remake the choice as I went. apparently, we only have that much freedom of expression here in physical, to continually make our choice between those two ideas, or feelings, but pretty soon you do get fortified by this continual choice you make and pretty soon (well, 40 years for me anyway lol) you can see that fear is receding and cannot penetrate what is love and the will to love. then you are empowered and can heal others with this empowerment if they come to you for a healing, or are placed in your path by guides. love, alysia

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Reply #3 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 4:09pm
 
Why is love considered such a good thing?

Love breeds many emotions, alot of them are negative. Such as jealously, resentment etc.

I see love as a chemical reaction, somthing that only a physical body can produce.

I see people who "Love" others such as charity workers etc, only do this kind of work for 2 reasons. Neither of which is love

1.) The charity they join, is a charity that has affected someone they know/themselves in some way, shape or form.

2.) They are seaking brownie points with a higher power, (which is what i think of people who go to church etc).

Few people in this world, will do somthing which helps another person and will make themselves worse off, unless they get bonus points with god/or there belif system, it's human nature to think of ourselves first, you see it alot of sinking ships, people will easily drown you and use you as a floatation device to save there own skins.

Can anyone explain what "love" really is without associating it with a psyhical event?.

A mother saving her childs life, at the cost of her own, it may make good reading but, it's just the body's/minds instinct to do such things.

I would'nt consider this love.

If a mother had to choose between her child and someone elses. Which do you think she would go for?, i can honestly say i think she would pick her own.

Why would she choose this course of action?... Because of physical attachment, she cares more about her self not having to go through pain, then to say, i'll save someone else the pain of losing there child, and sacrifice my own.

If anyone can say what a true act of love is, in which theres no reward with a higher power, or no self benefit, i would like to hear it.

Thnx

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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 5:30pm
 
Recoverer,

As you probably already know, love Shields us, it is our protective coating if you like. The greater we can develop this energy ,the more protection we have.

In the astral the guides are showing you where your fears are held, they use your daily life to draw differing plays to expose these fears. when you are within the play use your will to focus on the love you feel inside then the lesson will be completed.

love to you on your journey, I'd say your guides are very pleased with you.
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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 6:47pm
 
Spitfire,

You ask very good questions. 

I once asked my mother, an intensive care nurse, how she could do this difficult job.  It is something I felt I could not do myself, being entirely squeamish and physically repelled.  For this reason I cannot watch television shows on forensics, etc. which are all the rage. 

She simply answered, because I know I can do it.

Isn't love like that?  Just know you can love.  Remember love.  Allow yourself to feel love.  No reason is needed.  No lessons are needed.  You are a part of love and love is a part of you. 

love, blink
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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 7:06pm
 
I've got to back you on this one, Spitfire...
There are some things, and some people who
I could NEVER love.
How can you force yourself to love something, or
someone? (I've been trying to make myself love
weight training for 20 years now, and I STILL
don't like it really.) And don't ask me to love the guy
who terrorized me in 10th grade (this clown was a 20-year-old who had flunked two grades, and I
was 15 years old. I still see him sometimes, but
he looks AWAY when I come around... I'M bigger
than him NOW! HaHaHa...)
But I STILL hate his guts. Would I not be violating my own integrity, to try to love this bastard?
Love is something which comes naturally, from
the soul. How can you rationally force it?
Perhaps instead of "love", we should seek "Integrity"... being true to ourselves, dealing
squarely with others... following the GOLDEN
RULE.
It means "listen to your conscience and follow it to the best of your ability."
Don't lie (ESPECIALLY TO YOURSELF), steal, cheat, screw other men's wives, ect.
Me, I prefer the Confucian version of the Golden
Rule... "Do NOT DO unto others what you would NOT have them do unto you." This beats the positivist Christian version for me... I like to be LEFT ALONE by and large. But, that's just me.
So perhaps INTEGRITY is the ultimate goal, rather than "love." Or was "integrity" what the ancients really meant by the word "love"? Now there's an interesting possibility.
Hope that helps...

Chumley

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Reply #7 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 7:15pm
 
Of course, no one can make me remember what I choose to forget....

love, blink Smiley
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Reply #8 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 7:36pm
 
Sptifire,

I think, respectfully, there are two problems with your post. One is you ask what Love is when it is impossible to define it beyond argument. In other words, no one can prove what it is. The second is how you set up the problem. You state things in black and white, either/or terms. The mother may very well be protective of her child because of maternal instinct. She may ALSO love that child at the same time. These two motivators are not necessarily in opposition.

Bob
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Reply #9 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 7:33am
 
If no one knows what love is?...how can people use it so frequently in there explanations of what happens when we die etc.

About the mother and the child, im just trying to explain a scenario, in which people would comonly call an act of love.

But theres so much "fake" love in the world that exactly what love is is clouded, people will act a certain way, yet in there mind they dont believe in what there doing. We have all done it, at some time or another.

When people say love, they can associate it to many different things...Love a person, is what is usually considered the strongest form of love.

But why is this so importent?, in the animal world there is no love, in the universe we see no acts of love, is love what makes us different then any other form of life?.

If so, id like to know exactly what love is beyond the face people put out. What is a true act of love? without instinct, and without someone seeking brownie points with a higher power?.

A mother saving her child, is instinct...some have more and some have less drive to protect there children etc. I see no acts of love here, because i dont understand exactly what it is.

I see love in the physical world, as someone becoming familar with anothers pressence/ someone who is useful to you, and when this support/co-alition is broken , by death or the useful person becoming useless, then the love is broken.


@ Blink: Your mother works with intensive care paitents, But since she has no fears about it, then i would say, she is using her ability's skills, to perform a task which others may not be capable of.

If you being scared of extremely ill people, did that job, everyday without fail, i could see this as some form of love. Because you are constantly putting yourself through situations you find very unpleasent for the sake of others you have not known before they were admitted.
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Reply #10 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 8:48am
 
Dear Spitfire,

Having fears and knowing you can do it are two different things.  My mother did not, after all, say she had no fear of making an error, nor did she say her job was pleasant.  She simply knew she could do it so she did.

I think if you look at someone like Mother Theresa who was moved by compassion you will see an example of someone who loved.  She could have stayed in her nunnery and led a much more comfortable life and still could have anticipated lots of "brownie points" at the end.  But she saw suffering and knew that by taking action she could make a difference.  She was a great teacher--see yourself in the other who is suffering.  She taught that each of us deserve to be loved, no matter who we are or how we got there.   There are Mother Theresa's everywhere, people who are moved by compassion toward others.  Perhaps you will say that they simply see others as family and are receiving pleasure from their actions.

Does it really matter?  Someone once said, do the difficult while it is still easy.  It doesn't matter what others do and how they do it.  In the end what we do is what really matters.  Mind over matter.

love, blink
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Reply #11 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 9:02am
 
When I think of the various moments in which I've felt love in my life, it seems like much more than a chemical reaction. It's more like a beautifull force that moves me from within. When my heart chakra opens up and it feels as if my chest is missing, it's hard to equate love to some mere chemical reaction.

Hate is not the opposite of love. It is something that occurs when people have trouble finding love.

I don't think it's fair to speak for others, when they do things to help others. Perhaps some do it for selfish reasons, but certainly not all. No need to underestimate others, because you first underestimate yourself.

Why can't pure unconditional love be a magical force that exits within the universe, just like awareness/consciousnes exists as a magical force?
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Reply #12 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 9:05am
 
Thank you blink.
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Reply #13 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 9:12am
 
Chumley:

I honestly feel like I can love everybody. And it isn't hard. Things such as  judgment, which is based on a lack of understanding of why people are the way they are, and a lack of understanding of who they are in reality, gets in the way.

When I see somebody do something negative, I understand that I could've done the same, if it wasn't for the fact that I just happen to be very fortunate during this lifetime. Who knows what awful things I might have done in past life times. Fortunately my soul has been given a chance to evolve.
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When I think of the various moments in which I've felt love in my life, it seems like much more than a chemical reaction. It's more like a beautifull force that moves me from within. When my heart chakra opens up and it feels as if my chest is missing, it's hard to equate love to some mere chemical reaction.

Hate is not the opposite of love. It is something that occurs when people have trouble finding love.

I don't think it's fair to speak for others, when they do things to help others. Perhaps some do it for selfish reasons, but certainly not all. No need to underestimate others, because you first underestimate yourself.

Why can't pure unconditional love be a magical force that exits within the universe, just like awareness/consciousnes exists as a magical force?


I dont get what a feeling on love feels like?, i can feel admiration for people's ability's etc, but you still explain love as a physical reaction, the heart is merely a pump, which due to it's importence has been called the love organ. If love was a physical process we would see it in animals aswell as humans.

Hate i would say, is a thing which is a bad memory, framed for prosperity, a constant reminder of what caused this feeling, and how best to give them same feeling back to the thing that caused it to you.

Unfortunatly, nothing in the phyiscal world is magical, consciousness is a process, awareness is a process, love (if it exists) must be a process. For different dimensions, then these laws will most likely be different, but here. Things are systimatic and explainable.

@ Blink: I could do any job in the world, if i really had to, i may not choose to, or i may not like it, but i feel i could.

You make a very good point about mother theresa, she could be an exception to the norm, but the main problem is, she had a belif in a god, she knew the rules to the game of life, from her perspective.I would call her a master at living in the confines of a religon. and she achieved this. Wether she did this through "love" is another question. Since i cant see into her thoughts i have no idea, and guess since she's dead we will most likely never know in this life.

I wish i knew "what to do' to get rewards in the afterlife, i dont believe constantly helping others equates, to "love", nor would i be thinking nice things while helping people.

I would be thinking
"When can i go home"
"When will this person stop using me as a door mat"
"What reward will i get for doing this"

Like most people, when i do things for others i dont do them out of love, I try to simply live by my own personal princables, which does involve compasion, but wether this is a form of love, is debatable.
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