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Sep 21st, 2005 at 3:10pm
 
Some people suggest that if you dabble in the spiritual, a demon or something of the sort is going to get you sooner or later.

So how has it gone for the long time spiritual seekers/adventurers on this site? I don't get the impression that you've had any significant problems. In fact, you've probably experienced a lot of positive things.

Just think how things would be if you were afraid to do a little exploration.

My feeling is that a lot of fear based ideologies were conceived by teachers etc. who want to control their followers.

I'm not saying that nothing can pop in when you venture to places other than the physical World. But whatever would pop in would just be a spirit who is attached to the physical World. If you ask for protection from your guides, you're likely to get it. Does anybody have any experience with guide protection?


Sorry for such a long question.
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Reply #1 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 3:17pm
 
Hey there Recoverer.

I'm really not the one to answer this and can't lol, there are far better to give an answer.

But i believe this afterlife is kinda like this world in the way that you can get good spirits/souls over there and you can i guess get some spirits/souls which aren't as nice! From my understanding though your only going to really bump into these people if you go out looking for them...go to their B.S.T or have a negative energy around you at the time. If you go out with the right intentions and love 99.9% of the time you won't get any hassels, probly more than that.

Yeah and i know that guides can help. I also read about saying a affirmination or prayer not sure before you go out to ask for protection and let only peaceful loving things come your way, i guess this may be guides though.

Hope that helps

Ryan
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Reply #2 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 4:14pm
 
Perhaps what one person might experience as a demon another might perceive differently.  It certainly appears that people interpret everything differently in life and I would expect it to be the same in the afterlife. 

I know that for me, a frightening dream will almost immediately wake me.  I don't seem to have any tolerance for lengthy negative experiences anymore. 

In everyday life if I am around a person who I perceive as giving off deliberate negative energy I eventually find myself directing my attention in a different direction.  As I age negativity is easier for me to recognize in myself and others.

Why stay there in negativity?  No one can hold us there can they?  It's often best to just leave it behind, but first you must believe that you can.

If I find myself late at night surrounded in some persistent negative thought forms I often remember my huge, soft wings.  Are they mine or are they my angel's wings?  I don't know.  But they immediately enfold me fully when I remember them....and nothing can penetrate the wings of an angel.

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Reply #3 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 4:55pm
 
Some people like to believe that there are all kinds of forces of evil out there just waiting to get people, Such beliefs provide them with a supposedly valid excuse for not letting go of their ego held boudaries.

False teachers like to take advantage of such people. "Follow me, and you won't have to be afraid."
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Reply #4 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 5:15pm
 
Having recently been accused of being possessed by/following demons..all I can say is "oh, boy!"

I KNOW I am not dealing with demons..
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Reply #5 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 6:13pm
 
Hi Recover,

We are always safe.  Guidance comes from the sacred place deep within each of us.  This guidance leads us in carrying out our life purpose, even when we do not recognize this.  Everyone has inner longings that are built into the energy field for each incarnation.  These longings lead us to accomplishing our life's purpose by following our deepest desires that come from our heart.

And based on my experience, I would say that no entity can "possess" another entity.  Influence perhaps, but I do believe this is very rare, especially since we are always connected to our Source.  It's also quite possible that what one perceives as a "demon" is actually a "solidified energy fragment" of fear that the person has created, so the "demon" is actually a part of the consciousness of self.  We are very good at creating fear. 

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Reply #6 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 6:15pm
 
Hi recoverer,
I'm not really long exploring out there, just a little over a year, but busy, if I'm allowed to say. I never had problems with bad spirits and never had fear. Don't know what my guides are doing in the background, but sometimes it seems it was the other way round, my guides must protect others from me, ha ha!, yeah, they sometimes hold me back when I'm too curious or they put a camouflage shield around me once when I was visiting the belief system territory. I would just recommend to have some tricks ready to work for the case of an ugly encounter, to have a shield, or be like air, or the emergency-back-in-the-body etc.
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Reply #7 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 6:18pm
 
Recoverer,

What is important is the variety of destructive experiences that can befall one from the astral realm.  The question of whether these experiences are caused by non-human demons or discarnate humans is of secondary importance.

Don
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Reply #8 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 6:29pm
 
A statistic is needed: What percentage of explorers of what type of explorings are having mostly benefit and mostly destruction with it?
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Reply #9 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 6:37pm
 
Spooky, you're right, a statistical analysis would be helpful.  I suspect that my analogy of the safety of Florida's beaches despite the occasional shark attack is defensible, but this assumption should be tested experimentally.  Bye

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Reply #10 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 7:19pm
 
Some of this discussion reminds me of a class I took on safe driving.

The instructor had many years of experience.  He had also witnessed many accidents, including ones that were fatal and ones that had pretty gruesome injuries.

So, with that kind of background, he of course warned the kids of all the potential dangers on the highways if they were not careful, and if they didn't take driving seriously.

Thing is, when he showed some of the more graphic pictures of broken bodies, some of the kids thought it was pretty funny.  Lots of snickering.  Was it sort of a defense mechanism, a way of dealing with stuff that people would rather not think about?  Maybe.

But there was also the impression that such warnings were really not that relevant to them.  Not gonna happen, in other words, along with the feeling that the instructor was purposely exaggerating the dangers.  Hey, they hadn't actually seen any horrible accidents themselves, nor had any of their friends, so not to worry.

I think some folks on this board who trivialize the warnings about afterlife exploration are a lot like some of the kids in that class.  As is true with just about everything in life, experience is the best teacher.  Unfortunately, it can also be a painful way to learn. 



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Reply #11 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 8:08pm
 
recoverer

try projecting PUL (if you can remember to think of it!).

Sometimes, when I remember it, it works in waking, C1.
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Reply #12 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 8:22pm
 
I heard Dannion Brinkley on ...John Holland, is it, with the radio show? Someone called in and asked if hexes worked.

The answer was that they aren't real but if you put energy into them then they work, ie your beliefs make them work.

Demons must be the same.
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Reply #13 - Sep 21st, 2005 at 10:41pm
 
Roger,

In my opinion, promoting doubts and fears to others is only reinforcing them in your own imagination. 

I'm sure lots of people told the seafarers who explored  the oceans of the "flat" earth that they would never come back alive.  Perhaps some of them didn't.  But it wasn't because they fell off the earth or got eaten by a sea monster.

Now we know what the sea monsters are.  That is because people went out and looked for what was really there.

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Reply #14 - Sep 22nd, 2005 at 2:09am
 
Does the Law of Attraction apply here?
We attract to ourselves what we ourselves are.

If we try to reach the 'highest' that we know of and do whatever we might decide to do, for the best of reasons, then this should be our safeguard - that is, if we feel the need of one.
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