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Sep 18th, 2005 at 6:30am
 
Hey everyone,

Well i went to sleep last night, i was going to try explore but thought I'll give it another day, i was pretty tired anyway and so i layed there, and a few images would pop into my head and i would follow them anyway with curiousity, hopeing to relax more and get some sleep!

Next thing i was in a car, it was nightime, few leaves across the road, these were back roads out in the country as well, it was definatly England and thinking about it I feel it was a round the area i live in now. A car round the corner was pulling into their home, it was a sharpe turning between two walls so they had slowed down and just bit by bit turning in, the car was angled with its back end on the road.

I came round the corner pretty fast and din't have no time, i went straight into the rear corner going straight into my drivers side. It was pretty scary! I didn't have anytime to relise just suddenly driving, round the corner and then wham i saw it split second before it was about to happen the corner of the car and then it all went black.

I was back into that blackness which has lots of awareness and the blackness where you feel it rather than see it. Not sure where this place is but have been there alot recently! Anyway that all happened really quick, then a loud noise brought me back into this physical world and then finally got to sleep.

Just wondering what is this? Ive heard of experiencing the last moments of past lifes or could it be seeing into the future?? i hope not! All i do know though was this was real...

Ryan
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Reply #1 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 9:39am
 
I've had a similar..'veiwing" for lack of a better word.

I know its 1940's..not sure where.  Rainy night, I'm in some kind of uniform, perhaps military.  Car around a curve, goes off the side..
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Reply #2 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:32pm
 
Ryan, could be past life or you could have been tapping into a real-life experience that happened to someone else and they need retrieving.  Something to think about anyway.  Maybe you could go back into the scene. 

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Reply #3 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 1:57pm
 
I will definate go back, this needs exploring! Another thought I had whilst driving back along them abck roads from my Dad's tonight was that if this was a past life, i feel like it would be my actual last one, or if this was someone it would be very close to this time we are in now. If it was that means my parents before would still be alive, which is weird and scary...just a thought.

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Reply #4 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 4:57pm
 
Ryan, this is intriguing.  I know you are experienced enough that you can work on going back into this experience to find out more. 

I gather from what you're saying, that you could tell from the things around you that this was pretty much present day and age, not a long time ago. 

Do you happen to know if you were thinking or feeling anything during the experience, not as you meditating but as you the driver?  That might give you more clues too if you can remember anything. 

Keep us informed if you discover more about this please!

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Reply #5 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 5:05pm
 
Hey,

just came on and see you are here! Well from the experience there was one feeling, the way it went, the confusion, the lack of thought in the situation, the vision makes me feel I, the driver was drunk....Too late once i had seen the car...too late once i had relised what was going to happen. I say I as i'm not sure whether this was a past  life memory or not...how do you tell!? lol

Surly this isn't me? I would never dream of drink driving, i may feel i can drive but the risks...and i know i really cant, my life or even worse someone elses could be taken which would be tragic....

Just a thought why reading this...maybe I had that experience so i could grow and this is why now i wouldn't ever think of doing it?

It was a present memory though, it would have to be 18yrs ago at least for it too be me right? Yet it doesn't feel that old...could be but i don't know. I need to go back! How should i go about finding out more though, i don't want to re-experience the same thing and be clueless again!

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Reply #6 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 5:58pm
 
Ryan,

I think any practice of going back to re-experience an experience is good practice.  It is a concept that I myself need to work on.  I am very interested in that.

Perhaps do what they do in hypnosis, suggest to yourself that you will go back but only to observe, not to feel it again.  Maybe you will even be able to observe the scene again from a different perspective.  That would be neat.

If it were you in another lifetime, yes it could be 18 years ago.  But I like to try to bend my thinking a bit...What if it was indeed another life for you, but not one that was before this life, but one that was coinciding with this life.  Is that too far fetched?  We've talked about splitting off parts of our awareness.  Do you think it is possible to have two lives at the same time?  Sounds like a Sci-Fi movie!  Ha ha.  I don't know anything about this, I just like pushing the boundaries of imagination.   Smiley

How to tell it was indeed a past life, well I don't know.  You said you felt drunk, but could you tell if your thoughts were those of "Ryan", you? 

Do you know if you had split awareness?  Like, did you partly feel like you knew you were meditating, and partly felt like the driver? 

I don't think you merely had this experience to reason with yourself why it is stupid to drive drunk.  Besides, you know better than that already right?  And I don't think this was just an experience where your subconscious or your higher self was trying to show you something you should already know.  In my experience, those "picture information" bits tend to be still pictures, not in motion like your experience was.  The motion tells me that this is something that actually happened.  Where and to whom, that is what you need to figure out. 

So, you see how my mind works?  This is why I get myself all confused...too many ideas!   Tongue

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Reply #7 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 6:19pm
 
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So, you see how my mind works?  This is why I get myself all confused...too many ideas!   Tongue


I love it though Cheesy, loads to think about!

I don't think this was an experience to tell me not to drink drive, i know that and wouldn't think of doing it. But my thoughts were maybe i had experienced this in a past life to learn from it, now i don't want to because of this i don't know?

I like the hypnosis, but i didn't relly feel much, i did feel like i was drunk, and thats why i didn't relise what was happening untill to late, i didn't have many thoughts, i swear it was me though, just that thing you can't quite put your finger on. I like the idea of observing it... see what i can get not from the drivers view, see if i can see more...not sure if i want too though...

I forgot to reply to your other post but i was in that blackness following images again and i didn't relised i had entered this situation, it just started playing? and i was there for the ride without relising, then just about to have impact, so close then i don't see it happen i just pop out and a little shocked back in that blackness where you feel (need a name for this place! lol) thinking what the hell did i just see!? then was brought back to C-1 from outside noise.

I like the idea of living two lifes at a time. Is this possible though?? I mean this felt more recent than 18years ago which is why i'm really confused. Which also means i have other parents out there right now who have lost a son.....if this is the case. Mind numbing....how it could all work and fit together...my minds racing at the moment! I need to get back...

Ryan
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Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 8:09pm
 
Ryan, another thought...in some retrievals I have found my mind to merge and become one with either the victim, or with the one whom I was retrieving. when in this place of merge, it seems like the person is you when in fact, it may be another entity's life and circumstances.  I usually had a guide with me telling me not to merge, but to maintain my sense of myself.
this leads me to think that human emotions are similar, that we can adopt another's emotions and think it is our own.
however, you must decide what is going on. this is just another viewpoint.
yes we can have run ins with other people who are part of our disc, but it's a little rare. these people are us, but expressing a different life style. there can be as many as 800 or more "you's" out in the world in different time periods usually. the number depends on how evolved your disc is. again, my opinion gang.
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Reply #9 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 9:09pm
 
I tend to agree with Alysia.  I think this whole notion of past lives is frought with misunderstandings.  It is clear to me that all of us are explorers, tapping into a universal consciousness.  Setting our intents, we can explore and even accomplish things in our own lives and create our own realities.

Remote viewers have reported seeing as if "through the eyes" of the people they are focused on.  If we can tap into this universal consciousness, we may, on occasion pick up entire story lines or experiences from the past present or future.  While it may be ourselves, it may also be a different consciousness that we have become attuned to while exploring.

It appears to me that members on this board seem to be divided into two camps; one that assumes reincarnation is definite (and a part of our karmic debt to improve our soul), and the other camp that believes it is more complicated and may be a shared consciousness.  I am open-minded to the idea of reincarnation, but I suppose that I fall into the latter camp. 

Science and the exploration of consciousness are showing us that there is a universal oneness or connectedness that we all may tap into.  The idea that if I go to focus 27, I will suddenly have my memory restored, and will know that I have lived 388 times, and remember it all is silly.  I think it more likely that the 387 souls may have been associated with mine, but part of what I am.......part of what we all are is based on our consciousness at the present state and time.  If you merge me with the memory, thoughts, etc of 387 former minds, then I am no longer myself - perhaps I would be more, but I would not be me.

Anyway, I didn't mean to get that far off topic here.  Just to say that this is a difficult topic.  To know whether you were seeing past, present or future, remote viewing or seeing yourself or another, Vicky is correct.  You would need to revisit the situation.  Or place your intent on getting the answer.

All the best,

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Reply #10 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 12:12pm
 
Sorry if bringing up dead topics isn't allowed, but I find this incredibly interesting.

My last life? I believe I was a gang member, in some sort of hair band night club. We're in a parking lot...and that's it. I have a feeling I was in an argument or dispute and was somehow murdered. The last time I had this vision I was just a little girl, and it has stuck with me throughout the years. I have never known the true meaning until I checked out this forum.

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Science and the exploration of consciousness are showing us that there is a universal oneness or connectedness that we all may tap into.  The idea that if I go to focus 27, I will suddenly have my memory restored, and will know that I have lived 388 times, and remember it all is silly.  I think it more likely that the 387 souls may have been associated with mine, but part of what I am.......part of what we all are is based on our consciousness at the present state and time.  If you merge me with the memory, thoughts, etc of 387 former minds, then I am no longer myself - perhaps I would be more, but I would not be me.


Matthew, I'll have to disagree with your analysis of the current science on this, or I may be reading different science.  I believe you're referring to quantum mechanics.  The way I understand it, many current quantum theories tie us all together by way of entangled particles (EPR experiement & Bell).  It's good stuff, but I don't think you can infer from it that we don't retain distinct individual souls on the other side.  If we were all just disposable probes for the mothership (all consciousness), and our exploration was just so much utilization of existing "oneness" created by our quantum entanglement, we would have such shared consciousness with ALL beings.  We don't.  You don't hear about people viewing through animals, being animals, having animal experiences or otherwise successfully comunicating with animals as animals other than as human to animal (i.e. "I" communicated with the dog, we understood each other, etc).   I don't think you can disentangle us on a quantum level with animals or any other matter in the universe, for that matter (sorry for the pun), SO one must either assume we are distinct spirits without species identity, stay that way for the most part while trying out different shells and something else is at play, or somehow the quantum mechanics of oneness distinguishes among species (which would really suggest more intelligence at work than even I am willing to concede). 

If going to Focus 27 restores memory of all experiences, it doesn't necessarily mean it was restored from nothing.  It could mean it was the individual all along who's spirit never left; whose spirit recalls clearly all 387 other lives as if it took no time.  In that case, it's really more like waking up from an 80 year dream but in a non-space-time plane, so it happened instantly.  Not so hard (or silly) when one has 10 or 26 dimensions to work with.... or when one doesn't have more dimensions, but has "ether" (wave-matter theory).  Why would it be difficult for a spirit in non-physical plane with no space-time to have a dream that was us?  Seems like it ought to work both ways.

My dog had a dream that he went to heaven where he played hard every day, ate as much as he wanted, chased wildlife, slept, and barked when he felt like it.  I know the dream lasted over a decade in my time because I got to play God in his dream.  I know this because he worshipped me.
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