I got a lot out of what Kathy explained, it made so much sense to me and her way of explaining it was great.  Kathy, can you please re-tell your story in full?  Or provide a link to where you posted it previously?  I do love these kinds of stories since, as a lot of you know, I have tons of my own. 

I am sorry I don't always respond to everyone, I sometimes feel I am redundant of what others say, and sometimes I don't have much to say other than a nod and a smile.  And yesterday I typed too much and killed my poor hand, as I am not supposed to be doing too much with it yet.  Someone mind retrieving it for me?  Ha ha!

I love your wordiness Alysia!  You have been throwing out pure gems lately, so thanks for keeping me stimulated. 
Vicky

PS--ow. 

Hi Alysia,

Thank you for saying such nice things about me.  Your gift of love is graciously received and my heart swells with love for you, too.  I might also mention to everyone that Alysia has a beautiful voice.  Go to her website to listen.  http://www.Laughing-rain.com


Hi Vicky,

It was quite a while ago that I posted this and it looks like after the board crash it has disappeared.  I also posted this in conversation on Linn’s board, but don’t have a clue which topics we all talked about it on. 

When I saw the car pull out in front of me I knew I would crash into it.  As I did I was surrounded with white light and that was all I could see, but it felt like I was moving through jello.  Like I was slipping through substance easily.  When my car stopped, my body was trembling uncontrollably, yet I felt completely and totally peaceful.  There was absolutely no fear, only this very peaceful silence and the light.  I was completely aware, but without thought.  My body probably trembled for a good 5 or 10 minutes as I sat there.  When it stopped I went on to work.  This feeling of peace stayed with me for a very long time.  It didn’t scare me at all, not even later on.  I never spoke to anyone about it, nor did I really think much about it until some years later.  I think I simply attributed it to my guardian angel simply protecting me.  It was a few years later when I felt propelled to try to analyze what had happened, but by that time I’d had many more spiritual experiences, so this was only one of many that led me to where I find myself to be today.  On Linn’s board some of the things discussed were regarding time and things like that.  I’m sorry I don’t remember all of what was talked about.

I would love to hear more of your experiences, too.  I’m glad you understood what I was trying to say.  

After I posted I got to thinking about how ego has so much to do with us creating beliefs that lead to having cross-purposes.  We all need to feel important and special, but when we identify with things like our bodies, our intelligence, our accomplishments and achievements, we begin to see people who have less of these things as being inferior.  Thus this feeling of superiority leads to being constantly offended by someone.  I think this alone has created most of the problems we experience as human beings.  Being offended creates very destructive energy and leads to attacking someone, then that person counterattacking, and then even to war.  On the other hand, if we identify with God or whatever that means to us, then are at peace and live in harmony with not only our self and all others.   

Love, Kathy
           

I agree. it looks like WH's intention came true. I think it was like turning a negative into a positive, so he actually won by doing that. how many can turn a negative into something positive?
I don't know, but it's sort of like this: every question we have has on the tail end of it the answer. the two ends are inexplicably united as one. it's just the period of waiting to notice this uniting concept in our lives, that we get a little nervous.

Simon is interesting person: I wonder if he is the guy you love to hate?

Alysia said - hmmm. dave. like surrendering what you want to get what u want...or to not even want it anymore by surrendering it...wait, its coming...ok, to get what u want you give away the thing you want and it somehow comes to you.

DocM said - What is tricky is the formation of intent, in my "higher self," and the reaction of the universe to my stated intention. 

And this time I'll really try to be brief in what I say...

Unless someone or something is adding to the universe, the intention of the initial emergence of any kind of existence to keep on existing suggests that intention is pervasive to all of us.  The problem is not to "hold on" nor "let go" nor "give away", but to move on from the prior instant to the next. So long as we mess with something, we cling to it, and it can't change. When we go on, we leave the rest behind. Now it can change. The delay between "I am going to a state space in which I have a new idea," (or whatever we intend) seems to reflect how much karmic fluff we carry, stuff that has to be worked through.

If we briefly view reality as a series of pathways leading through an infinity of potential relationshiops, then intention is the deliberate choice of a parth that leads to the experience of a specific state of relationships with reality. Setting the mind to go there, wishing with great fervor, holdiong the image of success closely, staring at the back of someone's head to make them turn, all involve clinging to the point at which we are making the decision. That's like fueling the rocket, programming the flight computer, and then burning the engines while tied down to the launch pad waiting for outer space to come to us.

Instead, once the idea is clear, "I am going to the state space in which I will experience XYZ," that's all the programming needed. The rocket is now aimed. This is where the next step is needed, Let Go Of The Launch Pad. That means, going on with life. At the same time, do nothing to negate the initial direction you programmed into your system. Instead, take the attitude that you are in motion, that you have done all that needs to be done, and that that's all the attention that it needs as the fulfillment unfolds automatically by itself.

In this way, to the degree that you are able to direct your life's path through potential reality, you will be transported. This is the idea behind Bruce's "Silly little finger bending exercise". You don't sit and stare at your finger for hours, hoping that it will bend, or praying to God to come do it for you, or asking your Spirit Guides to educate it into compliance. You make the decision, direct your life forces (ie: intention) and then you go on to the next step, you move forward into the space in which the finger is actually bending.

Here's a really simple exercise to illustrate this idea. I've been prating endlessly about how everything can begin with spiritual emanation, rather than being the result of a material origin. Just for fun, decide to see how it would all look from the spiritual side. (That decision is the targeting data for the computer.) Now decide that you WILL go forward to the time and space in which that information will arrive. (You've just fueled the rocket and started the countdown.) Now, go on with life by continuing with the day's activities and gove no further thought to learning that spiritual stuff etc. However, make certain that you do not get in your own way. If you start to talk about what you are doing, stop, wait till later, otherwise you're playing with the flight controls by trying to redefine your goal, process etc.

After a while, out of the blue, usually in a vaguely appropriate setting (such as when I'm sitting on the throne contemplating), you will suddenly get the desired awareness. (The rocket has now landed.) You can do with the information whatever you want, including rejecting it. The point is, this technique is exactly like living in any other way or for any other purpose.

dave

  Hi Lucy,  i think it's more about very deep relaxation than making a tough effort or trying hard. It feels like  intent lives in a natural place. A place to discover, not to build by sweat and effort... Certainly just mouthing words or daydreaming isn't going to lead you there. Focus is required. But I think hard effort leads one away from it. For me it seems to be more about stopping hard efforts, breathing easier, an openness... The shock of 911 & Katrina is perhaps acupuncture on a global scale, to get chi flowing on a global scale  so, like you say, we won't collectively be so complacent and inattentive.  Best to you Lu and much  love, Tim F.

Hey Lucy,   I'm talking more about mental hardness as different from having a relaxed attitude. To me,  the incredible life in the singing and movement of the afro-american church is coming out of joy and connection; I don't think it's forced, it's a natural thing, an effortless thing... I know that I can get in a place of great inner stillness through activity, through singing and playing music etc.  "Trying hard" seems to be an attitude.  You can have your body be still and your mind be busy with effort. You can have your body be in movement and your mind be relaxed and at ease....   I wasn't clear in my earlier post that I'm talking more about attitude and mood than physical expression...  Time's short right now, the cats want attention, I will speak with you soon. Love, Tim