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Brendan
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Re: Verifying this stuff is all "For Real&quo
Reply #15 - Apr 27th, 2005 at 11:02pm
 
Likewise...
Every time a song is on the radio that I LIKE...
it's almost over by the time I flip to the station it's
playing on...
But if I DON'T like a song (a lot more of them than I DO like) its just starting...
Hmmm... some subconscious belief manifesting in an
annoying way? Or just a probability thing (I like less than 10% of the music I hear, so I'm more likely to catch an "entire song" that I dislike?)
Dunno.
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Reply #16 - Apr 28th, 2005 at 5:26am
 
Don, I can identify with what you are saying here.  Some years ago my energies would have an effect on mechanical things such as my car.  I could go to the grocery store for example and when I was done shopping, I’d get in my car and it wouldn’t start.  This happened quite frequently over several months.  There was nothing wrong with the car according to the mechanics that who had checked it.  Also, anyone else that I asked could get in and start it right up.  I constantly had to ask strangers if they would start my car for me. 

Other things happened, too, like windshield wipers start working without me turning them on, or stop working when I needed them most.  Door locks would also lock or unlock.  Seemed like I was always breaking something.  Eventually I figured out that if I could break it, I could fix it by “blending” with it.  My emotions seemed to play a part in this.  If I was rushed, upset about something, angry, etc., I broke things.  If my emotions were smooth and calm, I could fix things.  Some time passed and others things had happened, but eventually I learned to direct the energy I was running and I eventually learned how to run healing energy.

Guess what I’m saying is that it may only be a matter of you learning to direct the energy you are running.

Love and peace,
Kathy
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Re: Verifying this stuff is all "For Real&quo
Reply #17 - Apr 29th, 2005 at 8:29am
 
Hi,

I was wondering, for those of you who claim to have gone out of their body and float near the ceiling.

Can't you get someone to put a written message on top of a cabinet inside your room so that when you go out-of-body, you could actually see the message and report back afterwards?

This to me would prove that someone could go OBE and is ot in a dream which may seem real but is not...

Did someone here ever did that?

Thanks
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Reply #18 - Apr 29th, 2005 at 10:18am
 
Brendan,

actually I'm sure it happens for songs you like and dislike.

The human brain is made in such a way that we easily see what is going against the norm. This is also why we tend to remember exceptions.

So if you dislike something or a bad event happens to you, you WILL remember them. Good things tend to be forgotten since there is no point in remembering them.

This is also why we tend to remember exceptions.
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Reply #19 - May 3rd, 2005 at 9:06pm
 
Brendan,

HEY THERE!!!   Grin

Was doing some browsing and saw your forum... Good Questions!

How do we know we are REAL and not just a dream? I first had this question posed to me in 1978... in class. Our teacher was trying to play "Mind Games" with us.

My Answers:

1) I'm just not this creative to imagine all this.
2) We are all suffering from global group daydreaming / nightmares.
3) In my dreams... computers wouldn't crash.
4) In my dreams... life would have one side...good.
5) If this isn't my dream... then whose is it?
6) And if this is someone else's dream... I want to talk to the script writer about my part!



You said... "If the universe is indeed "mental"... then some amazing feats are INDEED possible... "

JD's Reply: Agreed... it's called "insanity." Brendan, you have nothing to anchor your beliefs on. How can you live everyday wondering if this is all a dream or for real?-Does it even matter? -What will it change?

Even if this world is NOT a dream, but real, you are still quite capable of many amazing mental feats... it's called "Thinking."  Smiley

"Thinking" (contrary to belief) is an endangered human art form. It is a rare gift. You possess it. Use it wisely my friend.


DEFINE: REAL

In some ways we could look at your question as seen through God the Creator's eyes...  from his eternal perspective... our reality is made of Lesser Matter who's existence is confined with the limitations of time. God's Greater Matter is confined within eternity.

I covered all this in my book "Forever: A Godyssey Adventure" because this concept intrigued me very much.

From God's perspective, our entire physicalness may have the consistency of a ghost. And God is more solid than how we understand solidity. The superscience & supernatural laws are mind-boggling at best. That's what makes them exciting to explore... and try figuring out why they were designed this way.


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Reply #20 - May 4th, 2005 at 12:14am
 
AHA... welcome to MY thread, Mr. Howes. 8)
You speak of a "firm anchor" for my beliefs as
being a desirable, or even necessary, thing.
But consider this.
Science is based on an ever-changing view of
reality. Indeed, the STRENGTH of science (and I
DO believe it ultimately has the answer for
EVERYTHING... there is no such thing as magic,
J.D.) is that it constantly EVOLVES. What we thought
was true yesterday, is false today. We adapt our
worldview. And so progress marches on...
Would you call SCIENCE insanity, Mr. Howes? After all, it is not based a a "firm anchor of belief"... indeed, if it had one, it would not function.
You would have me believe that it is better to have
an UNCHANGING, rock-solid, unassailable belief system... You know, Mr. Howes... there was a time when almost everybody (including the "scientists" such as they were) believed this.
We call it "The Middle Ages." During that era (500-1500 A.D.) writers called it the "Age of Faith." One thousand years of stagnation, barbarism, and institutionalized STUPIDITY. (And it could happen... AGAIN, Mr. Howes. Watch the news...)
Not a time I'd have wanted to live in... how about YOU, J.D.???
In the spirit of INQUIRY, I am happy to see my beliefs evolve... for that is the only way to the truth. Science's track record PROVES it, my friend.
And to conclude... in our back-and-forth exchanges, I have noticed something about you and myself, Mr. Howes.
You crave security, and emotional salve (i.e., certainty and stability.)
I crave freedom, and adventure (i.e., change and possibility.)
F'rinstance, I'm guessing you'd enjoy "Family Circus." Me, I'm more of a "Far Side" kind of guy (*SIGH*... in comic strips, only the good die young...)
We're two different men, you and I. But isn't variety the spice of life? If there is some kind of "God", I cannot help but believe he/she/it would agree...
Cheers,

B-man
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Reply #21 - May 5th, 2005 at 10:38pm
 
Brendan Buddy!

I just love "THE FAR SIDE!" But I wouldn't want to live there. But hey, since it really doesn't exist anyhow... who cares, right?

The human intellect can be compared to the digestive tract. We can consume, consume and consume... but at some time, we must sit down and take a dump.  Tongue -Why? If we don't... we will die from a massive build up of toxins caused by rotting, useless biological matter trapped in our digestive tract.

The same thing applies to the mind. We can learn, learn and learn... but at some time, we must sit down and take a mental dump.  Tongue -Why? If we don't... we die inside from the conflicting knowledge, logics & belief systems. Our heart becomes cold, jaded and arrogant by all the useless knowledge it carries around in it. And ultimately, such knowledge gives us the illusion of superiority... and that's all it is... an illusion.

We need to sort out logical, rational and commonsensical information from... well, crap.  Undecided If we don't it will rot away at our soul, our hopes, dreams and self-image.

ASK THE FIRST QUESTION: WHAT ARE YOU REALLY AFRAID OF? - It isn't God, for sure. I think you are afraid of what you would find if you looked deep enough into your soul... or perhaps what you wouldn't find.

What do you think?  ???

P.S.

1) As for science... it's always changing its mind.

2) How do you know if MAGIC does not exist? Especially if science can't make up it's mind. Just another educated guess on your part? - Hmmmm

3) Make up your mind... why do you care about anything? Let alone what I say? What others say? If you are truly all learning & all knowledgable -You don't need us... FOR WE'RE NOT REAL! - REMEMBER? Yet, you find it important to prove your point about non-existence... wow, what a waste of time, if such a thing existed... Go Figure.

4) Brendan Quote "You crave security, and emotional salve (i.e., certainty and stability.)
I crave freedom, and adventure (i.e., change and possibility.) "

JD's Reply: Funny... I thought just the opposite and have stated so repeatably in my postings... hmmm.

If diving into this hornets nest forum doesn't constitute as ADVENTURE... nothing will. Insecure and emotional cripples wouldn't stand a chance in this hopeless pit of wishers, dreamers and hopers. There is definitely no security or emotional salve to be found anywhere here... especially here. Can you feel the love?

I think it's the other way around my friend. The only difference between us is... I've already figured it out. Now, I want to see if you're man enough to face yourself honestly... like I have. 

And you can't get mad at me because you don't believe in anything... including yourself... literally. I am just an annoying figment of your cosmic mentality or your wake up call. "Rise & Shine Brendan!"  Cheesy

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Reply #22 - May 6th, 2005 at 10:00am
 
[quote author=Snoopydoo
Hi,
I was wondering, for those of you who claim to have gone out of their body and float near the ceiling.
Can't you get someone to put a written message on top of a cabinet inside your room so that when you go out-of-body, you could actually see the message and report back afterwards?
This to me would prove that someone could go OBE and is ot in a dream which may seem real but is not...
Did someone here ever did that?
Thanks [/quote]


Hi SnoopyDoo!

I thought I'd answer your question before it gets totally lost in this thread.  I remember hearing of this kind of OBE experiment many years ago.  It is too long ago for me to remember the exact details but yes it's been done. 

What I know from OBE's is that the information we perceive while out of body can get distorted by us, so that we interpret it into something else.  This is not true of all things, of course, but just some things. 

For instance, an author I like to read stated she had an OBE and walked around inside her house but discovered there was a window and a potted plant that didn't exist in the physical world.  Another author talked about seeing a door leading to a basement during his OBE, but he knew in the physical world his house didn't have a basement. 

These things don't mean that the OBE wasn't a real experience.  Just know that your perception in an OBE won't be exactly how you see in the physical world.  I myself have had this happen, where one detail is altered but all the other facts and details are exact and can be proven. 

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Reply #23 - May 6th, 2005 at 10:43pm
 
Dear Mr. J.D. Howes:
If you haven't read it already, go to my last post on your own "How are you Dealing with the Afterlife" thread" and check out my last post ("Resurrection, Haitan style") and then CAREFULLY read and follow the (easy and fun!) instructions at the end of the post.
After you have followed them, I will be happy to read whatever replies or postings you may have... Otherwise, please do *NOT* post to this thread again.
Thanks,

B-man 8)
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Reply #24 - May 10th, 2005 at 3:14pm
 
Dear Brendan,

Nothing in my replies can be deemed inappropriate for discussion... just simple biology analogy, logic & direct questions. You said yourself your background is in human biology ... and I enjoy writing about what people can relate to. These open forum strings are designed to "invite" new ideas, open-minds and sharing... not for rejecting such things. 

You've enjoyed emotionally flaming me without mercy on my "How Are You Dealing With The Afterlife" forum. Bruce Moen doesn't appreciate that kind of behavior from anyone... and I agree.(See Forum Rules) It ruins discussion strings for everyone. Wouldn't you agree?

My guess is, my discussion string really struck a nerve with you to react so...fervently... you can't fool me, my friend. Think what you may of me... it matters not... what I care about... is you. 

Now, you are all upset because I asked several well-focused questions... and now you don't want to chat? Tsk Tsk

What a shame... if these simpler spiritual questions upset you then I am glad I did not ask some even harder ones. You see, when you dig for truth... you ask more questions... and so forth. It's called learning...

I hope you find the answers you seek... but whining about people who don't play by your rules will never change life, reality or the afterlife.

I wish you well...

P.S. My forum string is closed - Per Bruce

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Reply #25 - May 10th, 2005 at 7:37pm
 
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Dear Brendan,

Nothing in my replies can be deemed inappropriate for discussion... just simple biology analogy, logic & direct questions. You said yourself your background is in human biology ... and I enjoy writing about what people can relate to. These open forum strings are designed to "invite" new ideas, open-minds and sharing... not for rejecting such things. 

You've enjoyed emotionally flaming me without mercy on my "How Are You Dealing With The Afterlife" forum. Bruce Moen doesn't appreciate that kind of behavior from anyone... and I agree.(See Forum Rules) It ruins discussion strings for everyone. Wouldn't you agree?

My guess is, my discussion string really struck a nerve with you to react so...fervently... you can't fool me, my friend. Think what you may of me... it matters not... what I care about... is you. 

Now, you are all upset because I asked several well-focused questions... and now you don't want to chat? Tsk Tsk.

What a shame... if these simpler spiritual questions upset you then I am glad I did not ask some even harder ones. You see, when you dig for truth... you ask more questions... and so forth. It's called learning...

I hope you find the answers you seek... but whining about people who don't play by your rules will never change life, reality or the afterlife.

I wish you well...

P.S. My forum string is closed - Per Bruce

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I simply asked you to read the essays I posted.
You are either too lazy to read them, or you
think they are "damned atheist essays" or
whatever. (They're not, but do you care?)
Or (I suspect this) you are AFRAID to read them.
You chose to put your brain in neutral a long time
ago, J.D., and decided that NOT THINKING TOO MUCH was the "safe course to steer."
I refuse to do the same. If refusing to do like you did (that is, to adopt the mentality of an illiterate Irish
peat-digger) causes me to be damned to Hell... SO BE IT!!!
You're right... I can't argue with you. How can I? Arguing with people like you is a bit like having a boxing match with someone who won't even put up his gloves.
Oh yeah... you'll WIN the debate to, Mr. Howes. You'll win it just like MacNamara "won" the Vietnam War... you'll just declare victory and bail as soon as you get into trouble. (Regardless as to whether you made a single salient point or not, which I have yet to see you do...)
So why should I bother?
Your proselytizing ain't worth it.
Your god ain't worth it.
And YOU ain't worth it, Buds.
Why should I waste my time arguing with a rigid
formula thinker who's too lazy to look at resources
I posted? I took the time to read excerpts from that
B-grade stinker you wrote... and let me tell you, it
was about as much fun as a five-finger prostate examination. But you won't even take 30 minutes out of your life to look at the resources I suggested for you? (Especially considering that I meant them for your personal edification, and to help you better understand the people you're dealing with on this site?)
Then screw ya.
Have a nice "life"... Tongue

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Reply #26 - May 11th, 2005 at 2:21pm
 
Brendan,

I've spent a great many years studying a wide range of belief systems... and personally... Atheism is my favorite because of the incredible amount of faith it takes not to believe in God or anything... in spite of the overwhelming levels of complex data that says otherwise...

Now, Buddism is coming in a close second because it's native roots can be traced back to a man making the first scientific notes about nature and building a natural religion around it based on his observations. -But I digress...

And when it comes to those sharing their opinions, essays and viewpoints on Chrisitanity... it's just the same old derogatory slamming show. It gets kinda boring after a while reading the same old uninformed stuff... sorry, but you guys really need to get some new material. The old arguments just don't hold water.

You see, as I've pointed out on many occasions... emotional insults are all that are left to someone who cannot defend their thoughts, ideaologies, beliefs or position on anything. The problem with believing in nothing is... it leaves you weak, vulnerable and empty... and at a great disadvantage when so much evidence dictates the opposite. 

I may be an real annoyance to many because of my rock solid beliefs in Jesus Christ; others may question my motives, emotional stability and such... but I just consider the source. I know what I know because I survived long enough to learn something new. I've been baptized in the fires, trials and hatreds of life and have won these spiritual battle wounds the hard way.

I'm no simpleton quoting pie-in-the-sky philosophies... I LIVE MY FAITH EVERY DAY. I SEE MY FAITH & BELIEF IN GOD BECOME REAL... EVERYDAY. I have an imperfect viewpoint on my faith in God because I try making him what I THINK HE SHOULD BE... and usually isn't! And since I've finally learned whose the boss in my life... I've learned God's ways really do make sense for this life. Annoying... yes... but smart!

I BELIEVE IN SOMETHING BRENDAN. I Believe In God. I am stronger for it than you... NOT BETTER. I've quit fighting my Creator because I realized how stupid I looked doing so... when I got real and weighed the real evidences of life more objectively... over a 20 year period.

More than that... my faith in GOD is REAL because it has literally saved my life several times when I should have died... and did not. And no rational or scientific explantion could be provided.

Brendan, I was not kidding, joking or ridiculing you when I said I care what happens to you. I really do want you to find your answers. I want everyone on this site to find what they are looking for!

And I want those answers to calm all your anger, fears and frustrations with this life and give you all the stability, confidence, blessings and joyful strength you are entitled to. It just takes tapping into a power source stronger than yourself to grow beyond what you thought was possible for your life.

Don't take my word for it... like everyone else, I've just shared what has worked wonderfully for me. I take immense pride in Jesus Christ... not as a religion... but as the person he has revealed himself to me as over the years through the lives of others.

Please don't settle for anything less than the best spiritual power for your life, my friend.

No matter how much you may not like me, flame me, annoy me, get frustrated and dog me...etc. I WILL STILL BELIEVE IN YOU, Brendan...

And I will continue to make it my focus to encourage you, lift you up, treat you respectfully and always be completely honest with you. As a human being you deserve to be treated with dignity.

I am not here to win... I am not here to feel superior... I am not here to uphold my ego... I am here to be real. I am here to speak what I know to be true; have experienced personally and stand on confidently until the day my personal deadline carries me into the afterlife.

Something this awesome should be shared with all... If I can't trust Christ with my life how can I dare trust him with my eternity?


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Reply #27 - May 11th, 2005 at 4:25pm
 
Brendan, I respect your desire to verify, examine, explore to your heart's delight.    

Quote from Mr. Howes: I have an imperfect viewpoint on my faith in God because I try making him what I THINK HE SHOULD BE... and usually isn't!

Mr. Howes, I think if you examine your above quote you may find that you are mistaken in the belief that Brendan's  life experience or afterlife experience is somehow lacking because he does not accept what you have just admitted is your own imperfect reality.

We are all searching, Mr. Howes, you, me, Brendan, all of us....you cannot see reality for Brendan and neither can he see reality for you...

respectfully, blink
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Reply #28 - May 12th, 2005 at 8:49pm
 
WELL said, Blink.
And I have nothing more to say to J.D.,
as I have no interest in being drawn into
a U.S. in Iraq-equivalent "intellectual quagmire"
which will at best end up going in a circle. The current Iraq debacle is a good analogy, really... I'd have rationality and logic (POWER!) on my side (like the U.S.) but he's got obstinacy and thick-skulled PERSEVERANCE on his side (like the insurgents.) AND, just like George Bush being interviewed on the eve of our ill-advised excursion into Iraq in 2003, he'll just keep drumming on the same response ("Weapons of Mass Destruction"/ "Something REAL to Believe In") to every question and statement I pose. When I get tired and quit (like the U.S. eventually will in Iraq) he can then call himself the winner (like Al-Qaeda will when we pull out.) "Guerrilla Warfare" debating anyone? I'll take a raincheck.
Our friend Mr. Howes claims miracles from his "God";
he refuses to see that followers of other faiths,
belief systems (or lack thereof!) and what have
you can lay claim to similar experiences.
I myself have had some VERY close scrapes, and I
was a mechanistic materialist atheist for most of my
life! Yet here I am... alive, kicking, and well.
Mr. Howes wants to "kow-tow" to a "King" that
OTHER FALLIBLE HUMANS told him about? Good
for him. Me, I'll find my own way... like the rest of
the fallible humans who come to this awesome
site to LEARN, not proselytize, threaten, or insult.
I mean... is Ultimate Truth like a hot potato, to be
handed to the next fallible person, who frantically
hands it to the NEXT fallible person, ad nauseum? (Hey - I just described the very ESSENCE of proselytizing..!) I think NOT.
...AMEN.

B-man
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