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emc2k99
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Shifting In and Out of Consciousness
Apr 19th, 2005 at 8:16am
 
Or should I say ...between consciousnesses ???
I remember, throughout my life, not being able to chronicle the transition between realities (dream and awake). But for the past few nights - and sometimes during the day -  I find myself slipping into a realm where if I think of something, It exists... Sort of like when we dream, but we don't realize it's us making up the scene. I've been consciously noting the made-up reality of my dreams. And usually, like every other time I realize I'm dreaming, I fully wake up. I've been hearing voices, like thousands of voices simultaneously franticly trying to be heard, but the volume turned all the way down. This isn't very new to me, but I figured I'd share it, along with the other experiences I've had...
I've also been very stressed lately, I guess I could blame all this on that.
Sometimes It feels as if something (maybe myself) is trying to pull me away from this level of consciousness... Like at any time of day, It'll hit me, I'll start to think in a way that's completely foreign to me, I remember afterwards that It made sense to me (at the time) but after that, I can only vaguely remember what I was experiencing...
I've got my theories, but I'd like to know what you all think.
-Thanks!
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Re: Shifting In and Out of Consciousness
Reply #1 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 11:38am
 
Sorry, I don't have any theories, but it sounds interesting so I thought I'd respond.

I wondered if you were young enough that you were taking classes all day and letting your mind drift and daydream.  I used to do that...being bored and blocking out my teachers and just let my mind wander.  I practically lived in a fantasy world.  But I don't think that's the case with you, is it?  Are you talking about this happening during regular daily activities?

What is stressing you out right now?  Are you getting enough regular sleep during the night? 

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Reply #2 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 12:14pm
 
" I've been hearing voices, like thousands of voices simultaneously franticly trying to be heard, but the volume turned all the way down."

I have heard people report this several times.
Mary Ann on this forum has experienced it.
Psychic Serena Sabac, in replying to a letter from a reader, said that it means you are opening up psychically, and dozens of spirits are trying to reach you.
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Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 12:39pm
 
Nope, not at class...maybe I should give everyone a slight background story:

By no means am I attempting to boast: All my life (I'm 23 now), I remember being slightly more mature than I've noticed others in my age group to be (so much so that I became the designated butt of my friends jokes). I know I've been very in tuned with every thing. I've been (and am still) very spiritual. I admit now I'm not nearly as centered as I once was. Suppose I lost sight of what's really important...that and what I'm going through. Anyhow, when I was in college, one afternoon I decided to take a nap before a 6pm class. Back then I had a nasty habit of sleepy under the covers and the pillow...actually 2 pillows. Long story short, I slept, I felt myself become more and more calm, I asphyxiated. With what started out a normal dream, I found myself outside of it, and my 'mind' I saw myself and my roommate -also asleep at the time - then I was in complete emptiness... Then I heard or felt a voice, It was not audible, nor was it english, but it was understanding, and I understood it (her) telling me concretely and all at the same time '1: you are dead and do not fear 2: It's alright 3: focus 4:accept this 5:I love you' also some things I can't verbalize. I felt the most absolute feeling of completeness, love, and knowledge. It was the most beautiful feeling I can't remember... I remember not feeling hungry, not feeling tired, just perfect.
I started to think about what I was leaving behind, my mother, my brother, friends...life. I then appreciated it. As that happened, I began to fall, and the warmth began to chill, the light which was so bright and loving floated away...or I fell, felt like falling. Falling right to the point where I felt my body again...craziest thing ever right?? Well, with a huge jolt of adrenaline, I woke up knocking the pillows off and mildly choking and gasping for air. Then I plopped back down. LOL I took on the funniest reaction from that... I went to my class with a zen-like attitude and felt as if time didn't exist at all, maybe time is just a benign device recognized to validate our current lives, who knows. But back to the subject at hand, since that experience, I've had several dreams. One where a person with a black coat, no facial features, and skin every color of the spectrum attempted to coax me to breath in deeply (while again under pillows) hahah.. I woke up from that, Adrenaline jumps are my failsafe in sleep. But now, I would be driving and have to keep myself from fainting. It's like some trigger would open up a floodgate of memories and those memories are (I don't know what in the world they mean) like intricate pieces to a puzzle and when the trigger starts it, those pieces start fitting together. It makes me feel like I'm about to die, every time. Like maybe my brain is on overload... Y'know how a dream feels different from when you're awake? You know your mind thinks differently? Well, the way my mind thinks when this happens is similar to when I had that NDE. I'm just trying to make sense of it all...Maybe I need to meditate. 5 minutes before or 15 minutes after sleep are like the only times I can think clearly...lol I don't know, I feel very much so alone on all this, maybe someone out there knows where I'm coming from (or maybe someone up there).

Or maybe I'm so messed up because I've strayed from my purpose here...
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Reply #4 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 12:41pm
 
Schizophrenia, it could be just a touch of it that gets released by stress.  'Course, that's not necesarily bad.  Shamans fall into the same category.  There are probably many shamans on medication, who, w the right training could have come into their right heritage.

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Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 1:05pm
 
Hmm, dozens huh? Could be.. As a child I was far more open to certain 'abilities' but came to a point where I just wanted to be 'normal' whatever that is. I guess I'm back on here because I realized that I can not size myself against a standard that isn't real.
Remember, from a child:

I've had a dream of the book of Revelation in detail before I even knew the book existed(5th grade public school) I only started to read about it in the 9th grade baptist school.

I've had a dream about 9/11, 6 months before it happened.

I see peoples spirits inside their faces.

I often feel what's going to happen before things do.

People have doen things that I would've asked them to do, only I've just thought about asking them.

I see shadows out the corner of my eyes.

After typing all this out, I see why I never told anyone about all this and tried to walk away from it all. There's more, but I'll leave it at that...

Hearing voices isn't exactly new to me. But I sound like a crazy person, I can't believe I'm going to post all of this...
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Reply #6 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 1:07pm
 
I probably just am schizophrenic...Which is scary. The thought of slipping into madness. Perhaps more material distractions in my life woule be in order, orrrrrr - Maybe I should pray. A lot!
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Reply #7 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 1:41pm
 
Hi emc,

I don't think you are schizophrenic and you are not crazy.

What I think is that you are experiencing changes in vibrational frequencies.  Sounds like you are also slipping in and out of these higher states of consciousness from an ungrounded state during your waking hours.  The dreams are probably obe's where it is certainly possible to create whatever you want at will and do it instantly.   You can learn how to understand, control and use this to great potential and benefit to yourself and others.

I have found tai chi and q-gong to be very effective in grounding.

Love and peace,
Kathy
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Reply #8 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 3:02pm
 
Kathy,

I agree with you.  And could you briefly explain Tai chi and q-gong please, thanks.


Emc,

I have had some of the same kinds of experiences you describe and tons more, so I know how you feel.  For years I couldn't tell anyone about the strange experiences I've had.  After reading your NDE experience, it made me remember all the times growing up that I had experiences where I could have died but didn't.  Mine weren't  NDE's though, just close calls.  No wonder I'm so weird!  Just for laughs, here they are:

Let's see, when I was a few months old I rolled off the changing table while mom wasn't looking (thanks mom!) and my brother who was 4 just happened to waltz into the room at that very moment to catch me before I hit the floor. At 2 years old I choked on a piece of an orange and stopped breathing but my mom said she held me upside down by my ankles and shook me til it came out.  (Way to go mom, nice parenting technique!  Ha Ha.  Lucky for me I didn't get brain damage from the shaking). At 5 I smashed my head through a window because I was mad at my brother.  At 6 I nearly drowned in a swimming class because I was trying to get the handsome swimming teacher's attention by going in the deep end.  (It worked)  At 17 I stopped breathing during dental surgery but even though they said I was asleep I saw and heard the whole thing.  (I wrote that in another post).   When I was 25 my lungs had filled with blood (due to a tumor breaking a blood vessel) while I was sleeping.  Our baby started crying and woke me up just in time.  The doc said I was lucky because it should have been impossible for me to awaken at all. 

I know there's more from my childhood but I can't remember them right now.  But I just wanted to share these because I have always grown up feeling like I had protection.  Not that I was ever fearless, but I always felt like someone was watching out for me. 
Emc, I especially like how you mentioned you "see people's spirits in their faces".  I know what you mean by that. 

Anyway, don't feel weird sharing your experiences.  I like to hear them from everyone--makes me feel more normal. 
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Reply #9 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 3:34pm
 
  Hi emc,

  I can relate a bit...  A little while ago, for about a week to two weeks when i would try to go to bed, i would hear all these very distinct voices simultaneously talking, and occasionally somewhat yelling.  I just "shut it off" somehow by will.  Had another, more odd experience after that but i don't want to go back into that.

  What it sounds like to me, which a couple here have already mentioned, is that for whatever reason (stress, spiritual development/natural abilities, even diet, nerve impingments in your spinal system etc.) you may be functioning strongly from your 6th chakra without the balance of the lower chakras whose jobs are to ground us, to facilitate our awareness of the physical and physical needs (probably not the exact right term...).

  If you want to be more grounded, especially during an intense "openness" phase,  I find that nature is particulary grounding.  Walking barefoot on grass, hugging trees, petting animals all seem to be helpful methods, but they're more quick fixes, then not.

  Or like Kathy said, certain energy exercises like Tai Chi, Q-gong, Yoga, and even just regular exercise like jogging or walking outside seem to bring a centeredness, and grounding.  Or maybe eat more heavy and harder to digest foods? 

  But there is no better advice than what you can get from going within--quieting your mind, and asking for help, since who knows you better than you?

  My belief system is that, the more balance between the chakras and energy systems, the more happy/joyful one becomes.  Balance seems to be key, like the Chinese have been saying for thousands of years.
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Reply #10 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 3:39pm
 
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At 5 I smashed my head through a window because I was mad at my brother.  At 6 I nearly drowned in a swimming class because I was trying to get the handsome swimming teacher's attention by going in the deep end.



  Whoa Vicky, boy did you have some extreme experiences Shocked!   I don't mean to laugh at your expense but those two above got me belly laughing  Grin Wink

  Thanks  Smiley
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Reply #11 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 5:47pm
 
Vicky, these are as Justin mentioned energy exercises use to balance energy.  The meditation I use is similar to ones on this page.  I was taught this by a man named Koshiamato when I lived in California several years ago.  He called it "Standing like a tree".

http://www.egreenway.com/taichichuan/wuji.htm#Practices

Lower down on the page is a meditation that is very much like the one I use located here.
http://www.touchoftao.com/taichistandingarticle.htm
 
I usually do this in the morning outdoors weather permitting; otherwise I have a sunroom with skylights.  The main difference in the above meditation is that I add the variation of bringing your arms up in front of you as though you are holding a large air-filled beach ball.  Keep your body especially your head and shoulders relaxed.  Hold this position for a few minutes, then bring your arms up over your head still holding the pretend ball and hold this position for a few minutes. 

And Justin... I love to do this barefoot in the grass!  Great grounding suggestions you mentioned, too.

Love, Kathy Smiley
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Reply #12 - Apr 19th, 2005 at 6:56pm
 
Wow, so much to say... where do I start? I was kinda just kidding about the whole schitzophrenic thing... Although I have had fits of paranoya, I know I have the capacity to keep from going deeper. You all make me feel very well about myself, I'm comfortable here now, thank you very much. All of you.  Smiley

I was actually half-expecting to be ridiculed and joked at, I guess that goes to show how used to it I am.

Vicky: good to know I'm not alone on the whole face thing. Along with that I see much more, habits, traits, their pains, desires, even from a photo. It's all a very intense emotional thing for me. Imagine sometimes having to see the real ugliness in people you love and would look after, or the coldness in a persons eyes, and then to have to look in the mirror and see yourself. For me, more often than ever, I see so much pain in my own eyes and it's ever reciprocated I see a dying spirit.  Sad *sigh to that... But there's a plus side to it, I often know how to deal with people because of it, or who to avoid. It's like having an inside track. Glad to know also that I'm not alone in feeling protected. That feeling gave my life purpose, I knew what it was even as a youngster, since my earliest memories, knowing I was meant to have a profound effect on many people. Maybe it was just a feeling then, because I've no Idea now how that's supposed to happen HAHAHA.

Justin2710: The voices are very VERY scary to me sometims. Earlier, I was at work, feeling fine when writing to you. Right now, I'm home, and I feel several people around me, I'll say people. The more I talk (or focus on the) the more heightened my sensitivity will be. There is someone standing behind me to my left, and someone sitting on my bed right now it feels like. Either that or 1 entity moving around, I don't know. It's not as threatening as it is a just-plain-creepy feeling. The same applies to right before I sleep, the more I think about it, the louder the voices get. And many are painful, very few so far have been positive on any note, maybe they mostly are painful because they need to be heard and helped...well, I need help myself lol. I know they are not my mind because I make myself think phrases while they talk, it's been like sitting in a class right before the teacher begins... you're chatting with your buddy while you hear the rest of the class. I can't predict (let alone dictate) what is said, which is why it's very genuine to me.

Lights of Love: I left my friends house to go home this evening, and the air was a muggy swampy musk, nostalgic of when I was a child with friends playing until it was time to go home.... It felt SOOOOOO good! The smell was so calming, I needed that....So I need to get centered? I know, you're right.  Right now, my life is very hectic. In all honesty, spiritually, I want to shut my 'beacon' off. I don't want to hear voices before I >attempt< to rest. I don't want to feel entities I can't see or touch. If what I experience was intended to be some sort of gift, I don't feel spiritually mature enough to handle it. BTW, I feel very detached from reality, for the past few months really bad. I'm not sure that I'm still actually physically alive.

Y'know.... writing all this has made me realize something, my spirit has been seriously corrupted...as a child, things were pure, simple. now, i'm driven by the desire to survive in a dog-eat-dog environment. I can even remember the day I stopped fighting the mentality. I'm a mess now because I lost my balance, somewhere around 6 years ago.  I need to find my center again.... I'll cut it short here, but thank you all again for your support.  Well, I'm getting sleepy...I'll try to remember what I hear tonight (if anything) and I'll post tomorrow morning... good night.

I've said so much, ye so much I didn't say...
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Reply #13 - Apr 24th, 2005 at 1:57pm
 
emc2k99,

Do you think the voices might be the “M band” noise that Monroe described in Ultimate Journey?  Anyhow, I believe that as more folks like you come out to tell their stories, that artificial gap between the so-called “mentally ill” and the alleged “normal” people will finally be closed.  The more support that “sensitives” have that they are modern day pioneers of who we will become, including the abilities of mental telepathy, precognition, psychic abilities, obe abilities, etc. and living out life in the now as if were all connected, the quicker the gap will close.  Pioneers like you, will eventually aid the rest of us to accept and develop our repressed abilities.  I see everyday in my work in the mental health field, that the crazy people aren’t the clients, they are the ones who know all the answers, give little support to another’s reality, and tend to push too many drugs in a misguided attempt to help.  No words of support in helping them to learn to ground themselves, as suggested above, or sharing of “unusual” stories as support, no suggestions of using tapes like the hemi-syncs or a million and one other more healthy possibilities.  Drugs are suggested first and coping skills second.  And because we’re all taught that a Doctors word is the gospel, no one seems to question this approach.   

Sorry, I’ve been sitting on this for a while.  I hope that I made sense in my attempt to support you.  I tend to skip words when I get passionate about an issue.  I thank you from the bottom of my heart for starting this thread and I thank the other posters  who are attempting to help you in your modern/ancient dilemma.   

My love to each of you, Jean

   
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Reply #14 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 7:35am
 
Jkeyes,

Thank you very much. Thank you all for your thoughts and kind words. I became very occupied over the weekend in work. If that was an illusion, it definitely took me away from those very 'deep' meaning-of-life-type thoughts. lol Which was a type of peace for me.
I don't know all about the "M Band" too much, I'll have to look into that.
You're too kind, calling me a pioneer   Smiley, I'm just a guy trying to make sense of what's going on. I'm just trying to find peace and meaning.

I do feel that drugs are sort of a cop-out to real treatment. I really don't trust them since there are are like 5 man-made cures in the world lol, and the treatments for the most part cause more problematic side-effects.

Sure we can call a person crazy, because we want everyone to fit into a standard, sort of like a social communism. And when a person is supernatural, different from the bunch they're either alienated, or exaulted. What is up with that? I don't think the world is ready for the world to change.

I'm at work, and work calls...I'll be back with something interesting.
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