I too like TruSeekers quote,
Quote:"....question everything, do not accept it if I told you, do not accept it if the Master told you, do not accept it if Buddha told you himself, only accept it if you know it to be true by experience.."
Basically what any spiritual teacher worth his weight in fast vibrations has said. With the above in mind here is my post and it ain't the gospel truth..(well a bit to me, but i'm biased
but of course).
Some generalized and specific musings...
If you had the impression, the knowledge, or at the very least strong suspicion that someone you knew was misleading many of your friends, telling them things that could not be verified, or things that ran contrary to much other consistent info what would you do?
I can’t speak for you, but I would try to point out some of the apparent inconsistencies, the fact that very little of this person’s info has been verified, but I wouldn’t try and force it down their throats. I would say, this is just my perception, then outline it in as logical way as I could, and let them make up their minds. Course some of your friends may not want to hear you at all period, so with these friends you might not address them directly anymore as not to just facilitate hard feelings and strifes.
Here at afterlife, there is stress upon independent verifications, various correlations, consistent patterns etc. amongst those who do retrievals or psychic work. This seems to make a lot of obvious sense, it’s a very pragmatic way to develop trust in something that by much material accounts is rather of a subtle and little known “science” (if you can call it that). Sometimes downright intangible seeming, especially at first.
If we were just attracted to some kind of source of info, and just took it all for truth because it “resonated” with us then we would be as many of the religious people taking things solely on “faith” alone. Perhaps also we would become very dogmatic (and often defensive) in our views too? I don’t see anything ultimately wrong with this, but for me I need some outside verifications and at the very least circumstantial evidence. As I said in another post, I do not believe in ultimate proof, or being able to prove to others anything, but I do believe in circumstantial evidence of a sort.
Back to the friend example; to get a little historical perhaps this is why a seeming non-dualistic person like Yeshua did seem to speak out against the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes etc. because though he had nothing personal against them, he thought that their info was misleading, inconsistent, and extremely self-serving. Not too mention dogmatic to the extreme... In other words, according to his perception he was trying to help all his friends.
This leads me to the subject of channeling and mediumship. I’m of the opinion that this is rather a neutral tool, depending on the channels overall vibrations, the intent and motivations of the channel, and the “atmosphere” in which the channel is around (like ones friends or seekers). Or to put very simply, like attracts like and like begets like. I really don’t know how anyone of a non-materialistic mind set can really argue with that easily observed law of energy. This perhaps just means there is a built in order system to creation around the “chaos” of freewill. But I’m not going to deal with the medium directly since I know so little about same, but rather just deal with the information and make comparisons for others to make up their own mind.
Also, I would like to talk about the different ways of tuning in, and point out that though I do believe mediumship is a neutral tool, it does seem to be one with inherent difficult variables. Why, because the average medium allows self to be taken over to a greater or lesser degree by an outside source. This is why Edgar Cayce could not be classified as a medium per se, because he would go deeply within for information, and though oft he communicated with seemingly outside sources, almost never did they actually speak through him. He almost always “checked” their info before relaying it to others. But to be fair to the facts as I know them, on a couple of occasions an essence other than Edgar did come through him. Another way to gauge a sources ability to facilitate or to act as a catalyst, is simply by the sources helpfulness on ALL levels, physically, mentally, and spiritually. Do these coordinate? Or is it rather lopsided and unbalanced, because though they have their differences they are ONE, and must be made one in purpose if a person seeks full completeness or At-One-Ment. At least IMO. I always ask, what is the channels and channeled intent and motivation. Is the channel seeking to be of universal assistance, or is the channel seeking to glorify self...to be known as a “channel”. I may never be able to answer these questions conclusively, but I still ask and listen.
This brings me back to my old friend Seth. Was reading some more of Seth Speaks and thought Seths unwillingness to outline probable events, and his excuses for such didn’t make much sense. Well, some made sense but it seems Seth (or is it rather Roberts unconscious?) doesn’t understand the difference between reading the probabilities of individual events (which is very, potentially speaking, flexible and malleable) and collective long term events which can often be predicted to the very day in physical terms. Who says, say you? Well back to the tried and verified–Edgar Cayce and the many, many accurate predictions and/or trends he outlined.
Michael Mandeville is perhaps the author who most researched and scored Cayce’s various predictions in a very hard scientific manner. Therefore I would refer the true seeker to read his second book especially. This book goes over many of the stock market advice Cayce gave (the stock market was extremely fluidic and freewill influenced), the business advice to those in radio and other burgeoning markets, the many World War predictions, the World Political developments (who many, many scoffed at then), the various extreme weather patterns then, and then of course the Earth Changes. Mandeville doesn’t tackle the sheer immensity of health info that was unique to individuals, or the many more personal predictions the Source made... Another book which is fairly objective and very well researched is Sidney Kirtpatrick’s biographical book on Edgar. And of course you have the readings themselves which are still in their original form.
Just to give one a taste. Cayce predicted years in advance the rise of Hitler, the militarization of Japan, and Italy eventually aligning with Germany, the exact year and month the second world war would officially end, and the eventual breakup of communism in the USSR (for many, many years people scoffed at–some even Cayce supporters). Cayce said years before it was discovered, that there would be found more gold in the sea than in all of the worlds banks. Cayce predicted that the Dead Sea Scrolls would be found in a few years, and roughly where. A few years after he died they were found. He gave pertinent information about the Essenes that then bible scholars refuted, but later archeology and the various new found texts would support; such as the Essenes allowed women into their community and that they held important roles.
He predicted that in 1936 there would be an upheaval both deep within the earth and within the political powers. Sure enough graphs of Chandlers Wobble shows a “jerk” in the average motion. He said this upheaval in the earth would be followed by gradual changes with an increase in all kinds of earth activity and especially with a general trend of heating–this way back before America became such a enormously polluting country, and way before many developing third world countries got into the whole industrial shabbang. Yet Cayce stressed that this heating was rather to due to the stresses physically within the earth. He gave 98 as an important marking year indicating both an acceleration of the physical changes, and of the spiritual changes in consciousness, and specifically telling people of his time/space cycle that these changes would be better understood by 98'. Look at the info that came out around then, especially in relation to the Galactic Center alignment indications.
Interestingly, he said all these trends, indeed all major world developments past, present, and future (and potential soul evolution of humanity) were outlined in the Great Pyramid for those with eyes to see. Many researchers into the Great Pyramid have come to the conclusion that it is numerologically, symbolically, and emblematically encoded with information of past, present, and future knowledge. Though mainstream Egyptologists still stubbornly maintain that the G.P was made no more than 5000 years or so ago at the arbitrary whim of a megalomaniac who just wanted a giant tombstone, yet some reachers have found interesting evidence quite to the contrary. For example, the rain and water weathering on the Sphinx which strongly suggests that at least the Sphinx is at minimum 10,000 yrs old. The sky patterns which align with the Pyramids of Giza of then which interestingly match up almost exactly to the date Cayce gave for the beginning of construction (10,500 B.C.).
To give a idea of Cayce’s usefulness and truthfulness, you can look at some of the individuals who used his information and/or those who tried to debunk him. Some of the then top business men of America consulted Cayce on a consistent basis (this known because there are signed affidavits for health help). Or take Houdini the great magician and debunker of mediums. Houdini for personal reasons apparently, was obsessed with exposing mediums and he was really, really good at his job. Many a medium fell under his sword doing the day. It is known that Houdini went to investigate Cayce and out of all the psychics he ever investigated, Cayce is the only one he didn’t publically denounce as a fraud. Indeed, there is circumstantial evidence that he may have been influenced by Cayce’s metaphysics. Why? Because around the time Houdini met Edgar he was a Jew who as mentioned earlier was extremely skeptical of psychic phenomena and non-traditional explanations for things. Later in his life, Houdini made some movies and just before he died he was working on a movie whose main theme was of reincarnation and soulmates. The opening for the movie was a quote from John of the New Testament...Interesting from an extremely skeptical Jew.
There is evidence that both inventors, Thomas Edison and Nicola Telsa, also consulted with Cayce and received readings. There were some letters to and from Edison to Cayce where they apparently argued the nature of soul, of which Edison was originally skeptical of, though later on much like Freud he said he would have loved to devote more time to psychical or spiritual subjects. Well, there is much, much more to Cayce–his readings, his life, and the degree of contribution he in an oft painful and self-sacrificing way gave to humankind. Not surprising since his own life readings he mentions many lives that were devoted to the spiritual and physical development of humankind, in short he was and is one of the most helpful Retrievers who came into this system and physical incarnation often working along side his brother in-service the soul who became the Christ and World Teacher in many ages.
Now there is helpful and helpful, there is intuneness and intuneness, and there is verification and verifications... Seth in my eyes severely lacks when it comes to any circumstantial evidence, to anything seemingly objective and verifiable not just by individuals but by the Collective. This is not an emotional ego judgment, but rather just acknowledgment that compared to some sources, especially in regards to a balance between all phases of experience physical, mental, and spiritual there is no comparison even though the way Seth speaks in clearer and much more “fancier” sounding.
There are some uncompleted souls who would have you believe that you can realize complete freedom without self-sacrifice. Indeed some would even mislead you that Yeshua didn’t die and come back to life with the same body to show the possibilities for all of mankind. Almost all World Teachers have knowingly suffered at the hands of man (or at least history writes), though in their eyes there is no such thing as self-sacrifice when you expressing from such Oneness consciousness. There are those who either lack understanding, or would willfully mislead. There are dark entities who are quite knowledgeable, especially those that hail from other systems. And though most here might agree that darkness is a temporal illusion, it certainly doesn’t negate the reality of it in the moment or in time. Some have destroyed their own planets in their selfishness, darkness, and destructiveness...their illusion that they are Gods independent of Whole–the Creator who made them.
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