Hey Bruce, I am one of your avid "doubters" who is trying to grasp the concept of the Afterlife and how you go about communicating with people there and discovering it. Well, I see that you get tons of success from your workshops which I have not yet attended and may not ever be able to attend, but I do have a very sincere interest in the things you have said about them, and even the things you say on this site.

Well, my suggestion is that if you are getting in people at this workshop for are also doubting, afraid, and a bit skeptical, but get turned around through your program to the point of no doubt and accepting the ineveitable, then why not ask them to post that experience on this site to share. I say create a Forum for them to give testimony's where they talk about the before, during, and after so that we can see how much of a difference you are making and at the same time possibly connecting with alot of the other doubters that come here for comfort who are yet to experience these things???!!!

So what do you think Bruce and everyone else....and if this has been done already, point me in the right direction. Thanks.

-JG

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Well....it's just doubt...not disbelief, just still that underlying fear of what is still to me "unknown". That 1-2% that creeps up on my sub-conscious while I am driving to work...that weird feeling I get when I read about some kid's mother killing them on CNN....

But I am working to be 100000% fear free by reading the things everyone shares on this board and learning!

Yes...that is exactly it....I am sorry that I assumed that you knew what I was talking about, but the fear is one of two things....actually dying and when this does happen, if there an Afterlife as opposed to just being nothing....

Well JG, the fact that you have some fear about the possibility of there being an afterlife should indicate to you that you should pay attention to your fear. Because if you die and find out there is an afterlife, and your not prepared for it, it's too late then.

You also need to acknowledge in yourself why your afraid of there being an afterlife.

I could tell you to believe my ideas about God and the afterlife, but we all have free will to believe what we want. The thing is to stay conscious of these feelings and fears and go on your own journey to discover the truth about it all.. for yourself. And be honest with yourself as to how you feel about it all.

Your story reminds me of a story I read in one of the James VanPraag books I've read, wherein James knew a guy who didn't believe in any afterlife, but after he died, he discovered he was still alive. He realized this because he could yell at people he knew when alive all he wanted, but they ignored him like he wasn't here.

So the ghost came to visit James and asked him if he was dead, and James said yes you are. Actually I read a similar story in the Edgar Cayce material as well. But this was a woman ghost who knocked on Cayce's bedroom window at bed time. After knocking she went and stood outside his front door. He went down to answer the door, and she asked the same thing, if she was dead.

So perhaps if you can't make up your mind in this life if there is an afterlife, you should keep someone in mind who could help you with this possibility, someone who could answer this question for you, if you find yourself in a condition where no matter how much you try to talk to your family and friends, no one will respond to you.

Because you don't want to find yourself stuck in the afterlife. You should remember that those who don't believe in the afterlife, don't believe it when other beings drop by to see if they want help either. And they don't believe it because it seems to them that they are asleep and in a dream state and those beings are just ghosts. So instead of talking to them, they hide from them. Be aware of at least these minimal states, in case you find yourself in them some day.

Good luck... A_Seeker

Dear John,

Well said!  The constant indifference here to the obvious need for validation or verification is the reason why I can only tolerate this site in brief spurts followed by long absences.  This is particularly true with respect to the issue of channeling, where so many here feel that if it "resonates", embrace it.   In other words, if it makes you feel good, it's true!  This despite the many contradictions between the channelers they revere and the decisive ways in which crucial claims of famous channelers can be decisively discredited.   The search for common denominators is worthless unless the claims are in principle falsifiable and the channelng passes falsification tests where it can be tested.  For most of it is counter-intuitive to the average reader and wildly beyond corroboration.   


In the past couple of weeks, I've had my best ever experience here because of some honest and astute questions and lines of thought posed by some refreshingly honest seekers.  But I'm afraid they are in the minority here.  So once again, I will try to tie up some loose ends in my posts and then quietly vanish in a pink mist over the hill.  Otherwise, at a certain point, it's hard to be both honest and inoffensive in responding to the indefensible.  And this site does generally resonate with a nice friendly tone.  So when the absurdities become too great, I increasingly find that it's best to recognize that this is not really my scene, despite my passion to explore the astral realms myself. 

Don

P/S. I particularly want to thank Roger for his many probing questions that prompted me to do new research, research that led me to some new insights about afterlife communication that I treasure.

John-

Don makes some very good points.  A healthy dose of skepticism involving some claims you read about on this (and other) websites is no doubt a wise thing.

I did attend one of Bruce's workshops and found it to be enjoyable and provocative.  But here I must take issue with certain claims that every person who attends a workshop obtains both an afterlife contact AND a subsequent verification that such a contact was valid.  Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary verfication, and nothing on this website provides anything approaching that standard.  It certainly did not happen during the workshop I attended.

Remember, those who accept everything really accept nothing when you get right down to it. 

Your idea is a good one.  Just because someone questions some of the claims or experiences posted on this board does not mean they are trying to undermine those who do believe.  After all, an experience that meets the rigid tests of verification is that much more meaningful in the long run, and also serves a greater purpose in helping to give an impetus to those of us who are on our own search for the truth.

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I mean, this sums up what I was or am getting at. It's very simple....from children we are introduced to new things that we are more or less pressured to believe in, but regardless its our choice to believe or not believe in those things...from areas of leisure to religion to just life in general....

And one thing that helps us draw conclusions are being able to validate things through experience, whether its directly or INDIRECTLY. I cannot spend the rest of my life calling everything shred of evidence about the Afterlife "fake" or just in people's head if I have all of these accounts of it. If Bruce's site is about promoting the exploration of the Afterlife, then what is wrong with those who are where I am trying to get to SHARING their experiece that could be something that I could relate to....

All I am saying is we can expand the knowledge, love, and experience being brought out in these seminars by hearing the experiences....


And if all else fails....it was just a suggestion! Peace.

JG, there are many who have attended Bruce's workshops who have posted their experiences over the years. I have read them. Perhaps if you search the archives you can find what you are looking for. 

With Love,
Mairlyn