was talking about this with a member here and thought i should share it here too...

   Twin Souls:   This one is rather hard to answer, especially in a blanketed and general way.  My version, using my own example is this:  Becky and I have been in virtually in all of each other's lives, and always of a constructive and growing intent and interaction.  In the physical lives where we weren't involved, say she hadn't incarnated but i did, then we be in the roles of "Guardian Angel" or guide type.  All the before mentioned stuff doesn't necessarily mean we have a Twin Soul relationship.  But, to give you a little of what i believe my soul history to be, I believe I first entered into the Earth dimension from the Sirian dimension.  In earth years this would have been something like 250,000 B.C. or so.  My group had been watching the developement of the Earth Souls for awhile, we were very involved with the whole experiment of creating physical Earth bodies.   As i understand it, there was a mini-crisis happening in Atlantis around the above mentioned date.   Many souls came into the Earth system from many other systems, dimensions, and what not.   These Souls existed more or less either in Etheric energies, and some like the Sirians who were observing and trying to help out were in Light bodies.
   The crisis involved many of the earth souls who were projecting their consciousness into the Animal forms and not only trying to experience their bodies and consciousness BUT also alterring them and their natural evolution.   Some even projected thought-forms of Animal mixes and went in them to experience physicality.  It seems that they were fascinated with certain things that the animals did, especially PROCREATION lol.   But, since they were interferring with the original evolution of the earth animals/creatures who had been there before them, these acts created negative polarities within their consciousness and to make matters worse, these souls who were originally a perfect balance of male-positive/female-passive forces also worked with projecting just one half of this consciousness into thoughtforms, this made it easier to create physical body thought-forms since the Earth system was created and based on duality/polarity.    But the whole situation was getting out of hand, it seems.  Many souls were lowering, and lowering their vibrations so much, to experience physical matter that they started to become trapped within their wierd animal mix thoughtforms.  They then started to take on more and more animalistic vibrations in their consciousness, and thought i dearly love animals i do believe the Cayce readings when it says that most animals (especially) are only concerned with and aware of satisfying their physical appetites when in-physical. 
    So many of these earth souls, because of their own free-will choices kept lowering, and lowering their once innately very high vibrations with which kept them aware of the Oneness of Creation, seprativeness became ever increasingly predominant in their consciousness.   
   Since the situation became so bad, many various Light beings from other systems, like the Sirians, who had not decided to play God with the natural evolution of Earth--tried to help these increasingly stuck souls.   They would enter in the earth system by creating etheric-physical bodies of sorts, to act as guides and teachers.  They were able to do this after much study, and observation of the situation.   Amelius, an aspect of Yeshua's Total Self was the Leader in all of this Retrieval work.  He lived many thousands of years in Atlantis trying to help these souls, specifically the Atlanteans who had created such in-harmonious combinations.   To fully live in the Earth plane, Amelius and his other helpers had to do something similar to what the stuck souls had done, they had to split their consicousness into the two polarities, but they lived with their two halves in the same androgynous bodies.   But some of the orignial Retreival souls became fascinated with certain aspects of Earth living, espeically things like procreation and what not.  Some of them mixed with the people/animial hybrids and this made even more of a mess, creating beings like the Giants.   So Amelius made a decision to become really embroiled in the whole thing so he could really help the stuck souls.  He and his still loyal crew decided to create healthy physical human bodies, they worked with the Primates and their own inner energies and began a program of mixing animal and soul energies together to create the most suitable physical bodies for souls to enter. 
   Amilius decided to enter into his own creation, to experience duality, to experience life and death and procreation.   His intent was to manifest the perfect pattern that all could follow, culminating in the lifetime and personality of the highest vibratory personality every born into the ELS--Yeshua who became the Christ.  I believe my Twin once shared this androgynous body state, and once that state was no longer available or being used, we have almost always been together in some form, though now seemingly separated in consciousness.   The roles we seemed to have played the most in our physical lives seem to have been as parent-child, lovers, and very close friends and co-workers.
    The Saga of this mess, ends in Ancient Egypt during the last destruction of Atlantis at the end of the Age of Virog, and the beginning of the Golden Age of Leo.   Edgar Cayce entered in this cycle with a particularly strong purpose, and he did not have an earthly father.  His mother had been visited by what the Readings referr to as the "Gods of the High Heavens" or as most people call them Light Beings from other systems.  Edgar Cayce as Ra Tah, had much compassion for the Earth souls who were still in messed up and animalistic bodies.  So he undertook to help heal and transform the various races that still had these animal traits.  He set up Healing temples and using sound/music, crystals, laying on of hands, and even surgery he and others he trained gradually perfected those poor bodies.  It usually took a few generations to fully do this.  He was also concerned with teaching spiritual knowledge and Oneness.  He eventually traveled around the world meeting with various spiritual leaders and high vibrating personalites, and codified all of the teachings and eventually with an aspect of the Christ soul as Thoth, created the Great Pyramid and the underground chambers which holds the history of Atlantis and other important information, especially about the Earth Changes taking place now.

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Mairlyn! hee hee. I was probably with you as a mermaid. had a wonderful lucid experience once about that. you're so brave to spill the beans! good on ya mate! alysia

always wanted to share this with someone, thanks!

  Hi all,

Didn't get to read all the responses yet, but Marilyn your experiences are quite interesting (from your first post)!  That is part of the reason why i shared that, to see if anybody else remembers that cycle.  Does Cayce and my intuition have any validity?
   I meant to say, when talking about animals that wild animals are especially concerned with the satisfying of physical appetites.  I think some types of pets on all a different level, maybe in a transition state between certain things. 
  Will read the rest when i have time.... and thanks for sharing your experiences, Marilyn and Alysia.

Hey justin,

Sorry to be mr negative here but,

Im 99.9% Positive Atlantis Never Existed, i'll tell you why,
From what evidence has been seen

In ancient greece Socretes was teaching a class and as homework they were asked to write an essay about a "perfect society"

plato brought his in, a story about atlantis a powerful and advanced culture, whos only enemy was the gods who proceeded to destroy them for there lack of faith. This tale was ment to be how the greeks in those time viewed themselves.

Im also 99% postive "Christ" was a normal man raised beyond his status and used as a propergander tool for the romans.

Freewill is also another intresting concept, for i believe free will is not as free as people make it out to be.

One Person can make another person do virtually anything they want, if given the meens, the idea of "free will" in it's self is a method of control, to think we have free will - is to make us feel we have control, it's merely a way that our body keeps control of the mind, and which makes us feel that life has a purpose.

i look forward to your responce

Spitfire

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Your arguments are well based justin,
The troy analogy was very nice, i had forotten about that, a good example of how science was proved wrong.

It's true that connections can be found between people but this could be due to the fact we all come from the same materials, just like gold no matter where it comes from will be a good conducter,hard,sonorous etc..

The lack of tangible evidence is what really seems the main downfall of the argument, you would think that such a civilisation would have left some trace of there existance. a pot/brick peice of cloth a ruin here or there and so on.

Edgar cayce, i have not read any books on him, but i have seen a few documentry's on tv, he tapped into somthing he called "the all knowing source" did he not? i was very impressed by him, until the point he came up with the apocolypse, for people who have often quote these type of events have so far been 100% wrong, unless it's already happened? ww1/ww2 maybe?, anyway people like nostradamous, the bible code readers, and other "profits" or seer's have all predict apoc's which come and go. Which makes me doubt him more then i used to, thou if it happens when he says it will i will be converterd

I like forward to more..

later
spitfire

Hi Spitfire,

I had originally planned on writing you a long response today outlining the various reasons why I believe Atlantis is valid possibility, LOL but I have changed my mind (and more importantly--my heart).  I will refer you to a couple good books which have correlated some of the more compelling evidence for both Atlantis and Cayce but then I would like to speak to you from my Heart, my friend. 
  The books:  Mysteries of Atlantis Revisited by Edgar Evans Cayce (Cayce’s son) and a couple of co-authors written in 1988 does a good job of making clear some of the Readings about Atlantis and pointing out some of the geological evidence.  The Return of the Phoenix Trilogy is written by a brilliant and original man named Michael Wells Mandeville.  He spent about five years researching the Cayce Readings, geology, ancient peoples and pre-history etc., and then putting it all together in a scientific, logical, concise, and easy to understand manner. 
  He is one of the only (or few) Cayce researchers to approach the Readings with a hard scientific methodology, and scores him and his various accuracies (or inaccuracies) in quite a hard manner.  After his research, he wrote a couple thousand page trilogy, which I read and liked immensely and thought he did a fine job of synthesizing a huge amount of seemingly unrelated info. 
The only mistake (albeit a major one) that he made, was to interpret that infamous Reading which mentions “2000/20001” as being a precise date for the crustal shift.  Cayce outlined trends and patterns of the changes, and would not have given the actual date for the culminating of the crustal shift, even if his Source(s) did know. 
   
    The heart seems to have no logic but it is the most logical thing there is. What does technology, science, logic-knowledge, life, and everything or anything matter if a person, or all of us do not have love?   All the knowledge, all of the things, and conveniences of the world will never make a single person happy.   The more I love, the happier and more fulfilled I become in my life, and while knowledge has its place and is interesting, it is but a bump in the road compared to Love energy and living that in life, in truth, and in Heart and Soul!   This is what the “normal” man, who lived as a man, who was born as a man, so tried to teach us by his simple, straightforward and heart centered teachings.   Only by resonating with that pattern will we of the ever restless, incomplete, unfulfilled, and unhappy Beings finally achieve what I believe that all people want in their core, to be happy. 
I yearn and long again for Home, I’ve felt it in those deepest quietest moments within myself during meditation, during love making, during being One with another or many, yet it does not hold, but it can—I know it within me.  I long to feel that again, and again, I long for others to feel it, to connect with each other through it, to be whole and happy.  I want us to be nestled in the bosom of the Mother/Father, to move within that connectedness and to co-create within and with that essence. Is there anything more simple and joy-filled than that? 
   Why the repeats, why Atlantis all over again in but a different guise and cycle, with different bodies?  Why do we need to destroy, to unbalance that which was created in perfect balance?   Just because of lack of self Love and thus love for others….. 

Hey Justin, I have yet more questions for you

Ive never really got why, "Love"  is so importent, ive read alot of things to do with afterlife/nde's psychics etc, and this is the most common theme which runs through them all, so there must be some truth to it.

Yet Love i find hard to imagine what love is,i percive it as a chemical response, people talk about the subject alot. yet in my experience people only do things not for love, but more as trying to get brownie points from a higher power, a god or other form.It seems people do things "in the name of love" yet it always seems to me they dont truely believe in what there doing, they just do it to make themselves look good in front of others.I Find it quite hypocritical when people do this.

It's like the current tsunami victim, People donate, because there worried about how society will view them. Since people dont truely care unless it affects "them".

Then comes the point of, "to much of a good thing"
the most pleasurable experience becomes tiresome and lose's it's potency in time. Just as i would invisage love does, maybe we incarnate to appreciate more of what we have in another plain? and refresh love once in awhile?

It's like alot of things
War gives us appreciation of peace.
Disease gives us appreciation for health.
a loss makes people around us even more special.

I still think theres more to existence then love, because otherwise it would be boring, angry,hate,revenge are part of the physical world, and should be included into our lives, because these can makes us do extraordinary things the same way love does.

  Hi Spitfire et all,

  Bluejasn said it pretty well, so i will not try to repeat it.   I would make a suggestion, since you "seem" to be of a predominant left brain focus, try an experiment.   Personal experience, in the end is probably the true yardstick for validity.  Even people like scientists, who are trained to think objectively, rationally, and analytically sometimes let emotions and attachments cloud their perceptions.   

  My premise for this experiment is that the huge majority of us have lived and grown up with some basic material and dualistic beliefs, like "survival of the fittest" or that to have things, status, control etc.. are what brings "pleasure" responses.   You know... the typical consenus attitudes and paradigms.  I know i have been firmly entrenched in this kind of attitude, lived it, thought it, and didn't think there was much more to life.   
   But, i have lived the side of the coin too as of late with the premise that there is some kind of "spirit" or pure energy source from which all was created and that this pure energy source can only be called "love", not in the affection, egotistical, personally attached, emotionally driven sense that a lot of people express, but rather love as an energy which is much more like a "Unified field theory" which says that all things, all consciousness, is connected at the most basic and intrinsic levels of creation--beyond that of which even Quantum Theorists, or String Theorists have been able to dwelve. 

   So i challenge you to live for awhile with this temporary hypothesis in mind.  That all things are connected, that what you do to the least of creation, you do to yourself and unless you are a masochist, then why would you want to hurt yourself?

  I think all humans are self-centered creatures, but it is only when we recognize ourselves in all aspects of creation do we become DIVINELY self centered    There is a difference though it is subtle.  This, i have found, is the only thing in my life that has brought me any lasting happiness, any peace, and harmony is to try and give this out as much as possible.    Everything else has failed miserably though i recognize it might not for others. 
  The great thing about this energy that Bruce labels PUL (pure unconditional love) is that it is not ever dependent on outside circumstances, but ever is only dependent on the inner attitude and choices of yourself.     So unlike getting that new job, that new car, more money, or recognition from one's peers, you can't get let down...your happiness will not diminish.

So try it out, why not, what do you have to lose except maybe some old paradigms?   Maybe you have, i don't know....

As far as Cayce and "armegeddon", doomsday, and changes like i have said repeatedly his readings have been misquoted or taken out of context to an unbelievable extent.   Mandevilles books, especially his third, points out some the most common mistakes people have made over the years since people have been writing books about Cayce, his readings and life (since 1944) or so. 

I might write a post outlining what i believe Cayce to have said about the changes.  He seemed to have indicated that a portion of the changes is somewhat dependant on humanities collective consciousness, but he also stated time and time again something like, "the changes that must happen with the Earth".

  Hi Mary,

Yes, i think so about conscious recognizing of Oneness, and being in the energy or "space" of one's Twin Soul.  My relationship with Becky seems to enhance those feelings of Oneness with Creation to a much greater degree.  It seems like my awareness of myself, of others, of creation and my psychic sensitivities have opened up much more since i've been with her.

  Either way, in any relationship, it helps to have similar ideals.  Becky and I don't always have the same ideas about things but we always have the same ideals spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and even physically. 

  As much as I love Becky on a personal level though, and do believe she is my Twin Soul, i also very much agree with the idea that Cayce's Source expressed in one of the Readings.  A person was asking about Twin Souls, and they seemed a little hung up or too attached to the concept, they got the reply that the soul or any soul should rather seek to be and is the Twin Soul of God/Creative Forces.

So with this in mind, i always try to check my "romantic dependencies" or tendencies to that, at the door.  So it works out that we have a very tolerant (usually  ), open, and ever growing relationship.