I Am Dude wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 11:26am:


Vince, it was worth reposting my old thread just so people could watch this chilling, but informative video.  Obviously, Albert did not watch it through.  The video also helps make it clear how and why Helen Schucman's channeling of a bogus Jesus in for "A Course in Miracles" soon seduced her into a fatal depression psychosis that prompted her funeral eulogizer later to suggest that she had become demonically possessed!

Don:

You know that I have spoken extensively about how I believe that Helen was deceived by a deceptive being and that ACIM does not come from Jesus.

I have read a lot of things about people becoming possessed including the book "The Devil in Massachusetts," and have watched exorcism videos. On more than one occasion I have posted on this site about Joey Fischer's book, "The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts," which speaks of channelers  that have been deceived by deceptive, ill meaning beings. Therefore, it is inaccurate to suggest that I haven't allowed myself to consider the possibility of deceptive spirits.

Heck, even the being Rosalind McKnight channeled (the recording I referred to on this thread) referred to possession cases.

Why would a being, as intelligent as God is, set things up so it isn't possible for people in this world to make conscious contact with bonafide love-based beings?  I bet you he understands that some people are smart enough to do so without getting influenced in a negative way.




TheDonald wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 2:05pm:

No Albert, you have drawn a conclusion that does not logically follow the premise I have put forth. I don't believe they are all being deceived by demons. Perhaps they are. I don't know. I am simply stating the fact that demonic influence does not necessitate full-blown possession symptoms.

Dude:

Considering the point you are trying to make on this thread and elsewhere, some people might conclude that "perhaps they are" pretty much means "yes."

If I am wrong, perhaps with equal enthusiasm as you have demonstrated thus far, you can present the case, that perhaps Bruce made contact with a positive being of love and light, when he interacted with his Disk. Thus far, you have only presented the negative possibility.

I Am Dude wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 3:44pm:

Roger:

Each of us needs to determine what is appropriate for ourselves.

Regarding who initiates contact, I believe it is okay for a person to initiate contact through prayer.

Sometimes it is a joint venture, a person wants to serve in some way, and a love-based spirit being sees the advantage of hooking up with such a person. I wouldn't be able to help with retrievals in the way that I do, if I hadn't made contact with guidance-like spirit beings.

Sometimes it is a matter of what is good for a person's spiritual growth. The more a person gets in touch with his (or her) spirit self, the more he will get in touch with the spirit levels of existence, and the more he is likely to become aware of the presence of spirits.

I used to be afraid of demons and getting possessed. If it wasn't for the help I received from friendly love-based beings, it would've been difficult for me to overcome such fear.


rondele wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 4:37pm:

I can't argue with the below. Aw, fiddle sticks!

rondele wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:

rondele wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:


*My use of bold and underline.

   Hmmm, I think it can easily be argued that consciously communicating with and exploring the nonphysical is just as natural as sleep, and that a percentage of humans have been doing that since humanity has been around. 

     It's only in our modern, super left brain polarized day and age, that it's become such a taboo to believe in and talk about about such communication, contact, and exploring, though this is gradually changing for the better as time marches on. 

    It seems clear that there are forces behind the scenes at work in suppressing such knowledge and openness.  So little money and research is spent on scientific research on the nonphysical nature of consciousness, despite that the relatively few studies that have been done (like Duke University's PEAR lab's work) shows much promise and definite above chance correlations. 

   It's very similar with UFO's and ET's.  This is also being suppressed and/or much misinformation is spread. These same forces don't want humans to have more clear knowledge about these. 

     If my hypothesis is true, I wonder why such information is being suppressed?   Could it have to do with the potential freeing nature of such knowns and such contact? 

      Truth can help people to set themselves free.

Imagine a society completely free of the fear of death, and which fully knows and understands the great Universal Law of Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like!  How free and glorious could such a society and peoples become!  Free from the shackles of greed, corrupt overlords and "leaders", and base, pointless materialism, but focused on Love, helping one another, and co-creating a beautiful, Spirit infused, kind, healthy world.

   A world much like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUqTRC1twE

    I plan to fight tooth and nail for such an above world, even if it means sacrificing this body. 

rondele wrote on Jun 5^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

* My use of bold and underline

   Actually, there is.  Yeshua taught that you could know a source and it's true intentions by looking at the overall, long term fruits of same.  Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like.  Contact with positive sources tends to beget positive, helpful fruits. Primary contact with negative sources tends to beget negative and unhelpful fruits long term. 

   For example, that is very obvious in Helen's case with her course.  She died angry, miserable, and disliking all things spiritual and nonphysical. 

   But, conversely, I can bet you large sums of money that other people, like Edgar Cayce, Bob Monroe, Rosalind McKnight, Bruce Moen, our own Vicky, Albert, I, and many others are quite happy that we have made contact with real guidance, and that our lives have been tremendously improved and helped by such contact and communication. 

    Many of the above folks have helped others a lot in different ways. 

   For myself, I've working very people oriented service jobs since my early 20's.  First I worked with elderly folk in home, then later adults and also children with disabilities.  None of these jobs ever paid much, but that never mattered to me because it's always been fulfilling in a deeper, more meaningful, and spiritual way.

  Truly I often feel that my cup overflows with abundance though I have little materially as our society tends to count it. 

    Part of what made me decide to work in these fields and say not a higher paying, corporate or upper level government type job, is because of my experiences with the nonphysical and contact with positive guidance.

    That same contact/communication, also helped nudged me to stop contributing to the torture and abuse of animals, that the big agribusiness corporations and factories perpetrate on these beautiful, valuable Creatures of God, like cows, chickens, pigs, etc. 

    Basically, my levels of empathy only have increased and increased since becoming involved with all this.  Many people, old and young, and many animals, directly or indirectly have been helped by my choices which were influenced by my connections to positive guidance.   

   I would call that some pretty positive, long term fruits.  Wouldn't you Roger?  Having met Albert in person a couple of times, as well as talking to him on the phone more, that Albert strikes me as an unusually happy, at peace, and loving person. He just radiates light and love.  It was similar when I became friends with Rosie McKnight and met up with her a couple of times.  She just seemed, well happy, content, and at peace. 

   Albert might say similar about me.  I also got some of that from meeting Vicky and Bruce in person as well.  Bruce had a really cool vibe in person.  On a deep level, he struck me as a truly nice, gentle, kind, mostly happy, and at peace person.  Aka positive fruits.