Dora
Ex Member
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Hello to you, just some thoughts...
I'm aware that are many people have this distorted idea, that they have some kind of authority to make the decision, who and why need to be retrieved. My own experiences contradict that,you assume that your friend who commited suicide is somewhat automatically need to your or anyone help from this dimension. I come to understand based on many or my own retrievals that you always get a very unmistakeble signs from Helpers where you needed. Beside also my understanding that after someone disengage, they entering into the transition period, where they deal with they own belief systems, what is a natural process, and only a very small % who actually unable to separate them self from the physicality, or the always available non-physical personalites unable to help them. In my opinion your experience doesn't mean you were unsuccessful, but maybe your effort was unneccessary. Your friend might be still in the transition period, or already moved to different area of consiousness with full awareness of his/her own essence. Love/Dora
: Hello all : This is my first time to give it a go for retrieval cause i dont believe that i have enough power to do retrieval. So one night in my lucid dream i became aware that i'm dreaming, i went outside and ask for my spirit guides to come to my dream, i said something like this "I'm dreaming right now, I would like to ask for my spirit guides to come to my dream. Then i said "My spirit guides, could you please help me to destroy any useless beliefs or doubts that preventing you from connecting to me?" then I said "I would like to retrieve a suicidal friend name xxxxx". I sat there inside my dream and look at my dream hands trying to keep myself aware in dream. I was expecting to descend to another place or something like someone said in the post earlier, but i felt nothing, I was still there inside my dream waiting for something to happen and Keep looking at my dream hand expecting something to happen. Then I felt something 2 hands touched my dream hands. So I Pretend that those hands are my spirit guides (Yeah Right!), I allowed those hands lead me to where my suicidal friend might be. I strongly believe and expected him to be stuck in focus 23 alone or in confused state closest to the physical world. I believe that he doesnt believe in the afterlife and therefore he must be stuck in focus 23 just like when ur dreaming, but instead the hands took me to a park with many dream characters in there sitting and playing. Then the hands pointed toward one of those dream characters and said " There your friend a sad one indeed sitting there in that park" (Yeah Right, I hate dream, Dreams are fake!). Then i try to walk into the park and try to take a closer look but the hands told me off like "What are you doing?"( Yeah right! see dream are fakes!)Then i started to lose my dream vision and woke up! I'm going to try again to prove it that i can do a proper retrieval not just some fake dream trying to trick my mind! no way never
: Good Luck
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