Bruce...and beyond Focus 27

Posted by Ginny on October 14, 2001 at 14:24:36:

Bruce,

I gotta tell ya...since being at your workshop and learning your methods for exploration, it seems I now have JET fuel in my engine whereas before I kinda puttered around on fumes! Knowing now how to get to and feel that state of consciousness to place intent is remarkable and FUN!

After doing energy gathering breaths, filling up with PUL and placing my intent to be anywhere in Focus 27, I found myself standing at the base of a broad, tall, clear crystal...perhaps 10 feet wide and 20 feet high. Felt a touch of disappointment because I had hoped to be somewhere new and was wondering if I was at the TMI crystal. So, remembering what you had said at the last chat regarding letting something/an image go to possibly see if a better image/explanation would appear, I let it go......and it came back. Let it go again and it came back...so all righty then, guess this was where I was suppose to be. I sensed a Helper was behind me and in wondering then where I was, I floated up a little and started rotating, 360 degrees, and realized I was inside a circle of these upright crystals, some higher than 20 feet, some shorter. I then was flying up and along the pointed and faceted tops of these crystals...I remember blue sky and sunshine. When I was back again at the base of the original crystal I asked where I was in F27 and was told the crystal circle was a "place of projection"...meaning from this circle one could project themselves to wherever. I was then told I had been one of many who helped build this circle (!) and felt encouragement to give it a try. So I sat down where the crystal met the soil and knew I was suppose to make sure my back was as straight and flat against its surface as possible. I then felt a peacefulness come over me, and I placed my intent to go beyond F27, to where there were nonhuman intelligences.
Next thing I knew I was in 3D blackness, kinda fuzzy. Something was moving slowly by me but I couldn't understand what it was. I could feel activity of some kind going on and I waited for my interpreter to help, but no info (Bruce, could this be because my interpreter didn't have a clue or stored knowledge on what I was perceiving?). Then off to my far right I sensed a kind of gibberish going on (some form of communication?), activity and movement but I couldn't really "see" anything ( I don't think I'm explaining this well), but my interpreter did come through with "something similar to music". Whatever it was just went on it's way, just doing its thing. I then saw an opening, like a doorway without the door, and beyond this opening I could see stars. I went through it and was in a universe filled with stars, not just one but many sweeping Milky Ways filling endless deep space. When I looked to see if I could recognize any star patterns I was told I wouldn't be able to...that I wasn't in the universe of my earth/physical locale. Something caught my attention and I then saw a large, fuzzy, white round mass, it's outer edge indistinct as if it were slightly oscillating. I sensed some kind of life or intelligence or something within this mass, and it seemed unaware of me...so I moved closer to it. Suddenly three small, white, oblong shapes emerged from this mass and stood side by side, and I knew they were aware of me. The only sense I got was that they were simply curious as to what I wanted, why I was there. I also got a knowing that there wasn't anything about me they would be interested in (lol!)....so I thought of PUL and sent them a little bit of it.........and their attitude completely changed. THIS was of interest. Next thing I knew either I moved closer or they did, and they're interest in what I had sent them---well I could really feel their fascination, or desire to know more. For some reason I then turned and looked at the door opening from where I had entered, and I began moving slowly in that direction, wondering if they would be able to follow me.
And then I fell asleep.

Much love,

Ginny

Posted by Bruce Moen on October 15, 2001 at 00:37:40:

In Reply to: Bruce...and beyond Focus 27 posted by Ginny on October 14, 2001 at 14:24:36:

Ginny,
It’s my feeling the workshop only passed along some techniques and framework and I’m so happy to hear you’re enjoying the ride. Big congrats on letting go of the image to give the Perceiver more time to bring in more impressions and validate the “reality” of your location.

The crystal circle you describe sounds like a great place of projection and reservoir of energy. Hopefully other travelers who read your account will place their intent to be at that circle of crystals and place an intent to explore.

>> Next thing I knew I was in 3D blackness, kinda fuzzy. Something was moving slowly by me but I couldn't understand what it was. I could feel activity of some kind going on and I waited for my interpreter to help, but no info (Bruce, could this be because my interpreter didn't have a clue or stored knowledge on what I was perceiving?).<<

Perhaps. Perhaps the Interpreter just needed more from the Perceiver to get a fix on what was there. Perhaps an intent to communicate with whatever was there would have had an effect different that waiting for the Interpreter to help?

>> I then saw an opening, like a doorway without the door, and beyond this opening I could see stars. I went through it and was in a universe filled with stars, not just one but many sweeping Milky Ways filling endless deep space. When I looked to see if I could recognize any star patterns I was told I wouldn't be able to...that I wasn't in the universe of my earth/physical locale.<<

Was this still within the 3D blackness? In any event it sounds like you found and “opening” to somewhere and went through it to a different place. Congrats.

>>Something caught my attention and I then saw a large, fuzzy, white round mass, it's outer edge indistinct as if it were slightly oscillating. I sensed some kind of life or intelligence or something within this mass, and it seemed unaware of me...so I moved closer to it. Suddenly three small, white, oblong shapes emerged from this mass and stood side by side, and I knew they were aware of me.<<

Did you have the sense that the three shapes “separated themselves” from the main mass? It reminds me of similar experiences communicating with nonhuman intelligences. Your description of “gibberish” reminds me of my experience with the “Jell-O” folks. When I first encountered them and attempted communication, I heard sounds I would have described as gurgling. Then the little blob of Jell-O separated itself from the main mass and I could communicate with it. That's the little Jell-O guy who took me on a trip to his homeworld at speed beyond meaning of the word.

>> The only sense I got was that they were simply curious as to what I wanted, why I was there. I also got a knowing that there wasn't anything about me they would be interested in (lol!)....so I thought of PUL and sent them a little bit of it.........and their attitude completely changed. THIS was of interest. Next thing I knew either I moved closer or they did, and they're interest in what I had sent them---well I could really feel their fascination, or desire to know more. <<

You certainly got their attention with that little bit of PUL! This really intrigues me. Makes me wonder if their interest was because they recognized the PUL, or because they didn’t. That they became interested, and didn’t click out, suggests they might have PUL within their “vocabulary” or at least some sensitivity to emotional energies.

I would say that my first experience of communicating with 2ndGathgroup was “something like music.” Not that it sounded like music, but that it was tonal, a series of tones, squawks and squeaks. I found that focusing my attention on those sounds provided a means of communication, conversation sort of. But instead of one word at a time it was more like paragraphs in each squawk or squeak. It might be really interesting for you and your exploring partner to visit with these folks again. The two of you might work up a list of questions like: who are you?; where do you come from?; do you have an interest in communication for mutually beneficial information exchange?; and anything else the two of you can come up with.

I’d suggest that you both meet at the circle of crystals as a way of finding each other and charging/projecting. A Helper might assist in guiding you both back to the folks you visited, and communication with them. The two of you might use partnered exploration as a way of being able to validate, at some level, whatever you discover about these folks. If your experience is like mine it might take several sessions to get a bigger picture of what these folks are like. I’d say, take your time, no rush, partner explore them for a while and see what happens. And I’m fascinated beyond belief to hear what happens.

Love,

Bruce

Posted by Ginny on October 15, 2001 at 08:18:35:

In Reply to: Very Interesting posted by Bruce Moen on October 15, 2001 at 00:37:40:

: Perhaps. Perhaps the Interpreter just needed more from the Perceiver to get a fix on what was there. Perhaps an intent to communicate with whatever was there would have had an effect different that waiting for the Interpreter to help?

**********Yep...it felt as if I had all the time in the world to ask....but I didn't. This is something I need to do more of, just ask...or at least let the image go and see what comes back. I remember the conversation at the workshop about results of "waiting" for something to happen----lol!*******

: Was this still within the 3D blackness? In any event it sounds like you found and “opening” to somewhere and went through it to a different place. Congrats.

***************When I saw the door opening I was still in the 3D, grainy blackness...but the scene beyond the door looked and turned out to be a very clear view of space, stars. When I went through the opening it was still clear...and when I focused on the white mass and moved closer I seemed to be in that grainy blackness again. I wonder if the 3D grainy blackness is a result of my own uncertainty?.....when confronted with something new a bit of my perception gets fuzzy?*********************

: Did you have the sense that the three shapes “separated themselves” from the main mass? It reminds me of similar experiences communicating with nonhuman intelligences. Your description of “gibberish” reminds me of my experience with the “Jell-O” folks. When I first encountered them and attempted communication, I heard sounds I would have described as gurgling. Then the little blob of Jell-O separated itself from the main mass and I could communicate with it. That's the little Jell-O guy who took me on a trip to his homeworld at speed beyond meaning of the word.

*************When the three appeared, it wasn't as if they exited from an opening. It did feel as if they sort of where a part of the large white mass and they just moved out of it, but not sure. They appeared in a sequential fashion, opposed to suddenly just popping out.
And getting that the gibberish was similar to "music"...once again I accepted this and didn't go any further with it. I have a feeling, Bruce, that when I go back they'll be waiting...with every intention of picking up where we left off (grin).***********************

: You certainly got their attention with that little bit of PUL! This really intrigues me. Makes me wonder if their interest was because they recognized the PUL, or because they didn’t. That they became interested, and didn’t click out, suggests they might have PUL within their “vocabulary” or at least some sensitivity to emotional energies.

*************Now this is interesting and you're making me wonder. I sent PUL because it was the only form of communication I felt I had at the moment... a way to say "hi!". All humans the world over recognize a "smile" and what it means. Well, maybe PUL cut through language/reality differences? I really got a strong feeling they understood or really resonated with the little boost, and perhaps this too was another door opening for communication, but I just began moving away!!!*************************

: It might be really interesting for you and your exploring partner to visit with these folks again. The two of you might work up a list of questions like: who are you?; where do you come from?; do you have an interest in communication for mutually beneficial information exchange?; and anything else the two of you can come up with.
***************Yes. Really good idea. I had the feeling that the "music" was at a much faster pace than I could have understood (?), and that the interpreter came up with "music" because there was organization in it, structure(?). I've retained the "feel" of that place, and of the two intelligences I observed prior to going through the doorway. It was important for me to get that "feel" and perhaps that's why intending to ask didn't happen. I'm a slow learner at times!*******************************

: I’d suggest that you both meet at the circle of crystals as a way of finding each other and charging/projecting. A Helper might assist in guiding you both back to the folks you visited, and communication with them. The two of you might use partnered exploration as a way of being able to validate, at some level, whatever you discover about these folks. If your experience is like mine it might take several sessions to get a bigger picture of what these folks are like. I’d say, take your time, no rush, partner explore them for a while and see what happens. And I’m fascinated beyond belief to hear what happens.

**************Will keep you posted. The entire experience was peaceful, fascinating...and now my curiosity is really peaked!

Thank you, Bruce. All my love,
Ginny

Posted by Bruce Moen on October 15, 2001 at 10:33:09:

In Reply to: Re: Very Interesting posted by Ginny on October 15, 2001 at 08:18:35:

Ginny,

Yeah, really interesting. I’m so looking forward to hearing more about what you and others discover, exploring this contact.

>> When I saw the door opening I was still in the 3D, grainy blackness...but the scene beyond the door looked and turned out to be a very clear view of space, stars. When I went through the opening it was still clear...<<

To me the 3D Blackness appears to be a specific area of consciousness one can shift attention to. It appears to have, or have access to, “portals” that lead to other areas of consciousness. Placing intent to “visit” an area of consciousness prior to entering the 3D Blackness, or within it, seems to open the portal, or maybe “point out the direction” is a better way to say this.

>> and when I focused on the white mass and moved closer I seemed to be in that grainy blackness again. <<

A “portal within a portal” perhaps?

>> I wonder if the 3D grainy blackness is a result of my own uncertainty?.....when confronted with something new a bit of my perception gets fuzzy? <<

For me the 3D Blackness is a specific state of consciousness. The “image quality” might have something to with being confronted by something new. Maybe the Interpreter has a little difficulty finding previously stored “material” to base an “interpretation on? I’m not sure here, maybe you’ll learn more that I know in this one.

>> When the three appeared, it wasn't as if they exited from an opening. It did feel as if they sort of where a part of the large white mass and they just moved out of it, but not sure. They appeared in a sequential fashion, opposed to suddenly just popping out. <<

Yeah, that’s similar to my experience with nonhuman intelligences. It’s almost like they need to separate themselves from their “native form” into individuals to facilitate communication with me for some reason.

>> And getting that the gibberish was similar to "music"...once again I accepted this and didn't go any further with it. <<

Yes, but now you know the feel of the gibberish. I was fortunate in that White Bear had been teaching me to communicate via a tonal language before my encounter with 2ndGathgroup. Just focusing my attention on the “sound” of the “music” brought the information.

>> I have a feeling, Bruce, that when I go back they'll be waiting...with every intention of picking up where we left off (grin).<<
That’s my feeling too.

>> Now this is interesting and you're making me wonder. <<

Yeah, really interesting!

>> I sent PUL because it was the only form of communication I felt I had at the moment... a way to say "hi!". All humans the world over recognize a "smile" and what it means. Well, maybe PUL cut through language/reality differences? I really got a strong feeling they understood or really resonated with the little boost, and perhaps this too was another door opening for communication, but I just began moving away. <<

What a great way to “say Hi” to them. Perhaps the moving away was Helper guided for some reason. Wondering if they could follow you may have also been a Helper communication. Perhaps the folks you contacted needed to know what species they were in contact with, or perhaps your planet of origin. Just speculation on my part, but if they followed now they “have the feeling” of our area of consciousness. Navigation on their part might be via “feelings” too. I’d say that qualifies as “perhaps this too was another door opening for communication” as you put it. Just speculation on my part, experience will tell I suppose.

>> Yes. Really good idea. I had the feeling that the "music" was at a much faster pace than I could have understood (?), and that the interpreter came up with "music" because there was organization in it, structure(?). <<

I agree with your assessment, and suggest that if there is information within the “music” the Interpreter will be able to bring it into your awareness. Just focusing on the “sound” of the music seemed to be the way that White Bear trained me to get it.

>> I've retained the "feel" of that place, and of the two intelligences I observed prior to going through the doorway. It was important for me to get that "feel" and perhaps that's why intending to ask didn't happen. I'm a slow learner at times! <<

Slow learner? Balderdash! Just getting the feel of the place is a really, really big thing. As you know that feel is all you need to return to the place, or even just the intent to feel it works.

>> Will keep you posted. The entire experience was peaceful, fascinating...and now my curiosity is really peaked! <<

Yeah, you can’t imagine who excited I am to follow along on your explorations of these folks via your posts.

Love,

Bruce


Posted by Ginny on October 15, 2001 at 13:03:00:

In Reply to: Really Interesting posted by Bruce Moen on October 15, 2001 at 10:33:09:

: To me the 3D Blackness appears to be a specific area of consciousness one can shift attention to. It appears to have, or have access to, “portals” that lead to other areas of consciousness. Placing intent to “visit” an area of consciousness prior to entering the 3D Blackness, or within it, seems to open the portal, or maybe “point out the direction” is a better way to say this.

******************************You've written about this and I've heard you say it.....and wow it's true. It's funny how we perceive things, meaning I always felt that 3D grainy blackness was an indication of my inability to "see" well.......but now I can just accept and appreciate it, for not only it's "graininess" but for the fact that it is indeed a kind of launching pad or stepping stone to other realities.**************************

: For me the 3D Blackness is a specific state of consciousness. The “image quality” might have something to with being confronted by something new. Maybe the Interpreter has a little difficulty finding previously stored “material” to base an “interpretation on? I’m not sure here, maybe you’ll learn more that I know in this one.

***********I need to simply ask...let my interpreter do its thing, and ask again. Perhaps even ask for more clarity. Trusting what comes --or I should say not trusting-- is no longer an issue with me.******************

: Yeah, that’s similar to my experience with nonhuman intelligences. It’s almost like they need to separate themselves from their “native form” into individuals to facilitate communication with me for some reason.

******************Well now this blew a fuse!!! Whoa! Makes me wonder what THEY perceived when they became aware of me and Helper(s)? Were there two Helpers there, with me? So what you may be saying is the white mass operates as a single,whole entity, but somehow "knew" communication with me was necessary in a smaller and divided way.....because of how many it possibly perceived when I/we were there? ***********************

: Yes, but now you know the feel of the gibberish. I was fortunate in that White Bear had been teaching me to communicate via a tonal language before my encounter with 2ndGathgroup. Just focusing my attention on the “sound” of the “music” brought the information.

****************It was as if the "feel" of the gibberish was just about to come across to me as "sound" (know what I mean?)....and perhaps that's when the interpreter said "music". If I had only stayed longer and asked for more info.....but, lesson learned.*******************