TheDonald wrote on May 10th, 2017 at 12:15am:"Paul had a long ways to go before he was anywhere close to be at the level of wisdom, insight, and clear perception of Yeshua."
You pontificate from ignorance of the subtleties and Paul' remarkable teaching on spirituality. You don't even bother to consider the merits of what he said on the OP's subject!
"Paul was the same person who hatefully persecuted followers of Yeshua, until he got knocked on his arse by Yeshua in a powerful and very hard to deny way."
And King David is a murderer and an adulterer. Yet he is the only man to be described by the Bible as "a man after God's own heart." His psalms are a gold mine of honest confession and spiritual insight. People change, Justin, and often rise to great spiritual heights by virtue of the extremes of their amazing spiritual journeys.
"I've been told in various different, inner and outer ways that my Spirit/Disk had a lifetime in Israel during Yeshua's time."
A claim that, for me, discredits your claims to revelations form spirit. You remind me of Marilyn, a longtime poster on this site who claimed to be the reincarnation of Peter. Yet she couldn't even answer a simple question like, "What is the name of the outhouses you had to use on a daily basis?" I'm reminded of research on mass hypnotic past life regression that revealed several Napoleons in the group. One of the main factors that refutes alleged past life recall is the frequent New Ager claim either to have been someone famous in a past life or to have known someone famous.
"This self came into much conflict with Paul, and not only this self, but other selves considered Paul an extremist and a bit unstable."
In fact, Paul was so appealing that he did more than the 12 apostles combined to help make Christianity a world religion.
"He condemned my other self's marriage to a younger woman, and constantly was preaching that Church leaders should be celibate."
On the contrary: "Because of cases of sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband (1 Corinthians 7:2)." Paul proceeds to prohibit married couples from denying each other sex. In a fact, a couple of chapters later, he can even ask: "Do we not have the right to be accompanied by a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas (= Peter) (9:5)?" True, Paul recommends, but does not require celibacy for the moment because of the virulent persecutions new Christian families are facing in his day.
Not sure why you are bringing this to a personal level, when I impersonally disagreed with and pointed out things from a different perspective?
I do not claim to be the direct, literal reincarnation of a biblical character btw. I said my Spirit had a life then, not that I'm a direct reincarnation of this person. Our Spirit selves are much more vast than our little Soul selves.
For a biblical example, I believe that Elijah and John the Baptist were two different, unique, freewilled, self aware, but very connected Soul selves within/part of the same larger Spirit (or what Bruce refers to as a Disk).
Regarding Marilyn and reincarnation, most of us can't even remember what we ate for breakfast 10 days ago (at least I can't), and so why the heck would most of us remember trivial little details from another life? That "logic" is quite myopic and shows grasping at straws. Generally, most of us are meant to forget much so there is not the emotional burden of this knowledge, or so we can learn things in a fresh way.
What are your takes on dreams? Are dreams created by our personality, conscious minds? Are dreams "demonically" controlled and made?
Or, as the Bible suggests time and time again, that dreams are one of the more common means of perception into the realms of Soul and Spirit? Here's a dream that I had related to the above: I observed my Aunt talking from a Soul level, about my Uncle, and she said that my Uncle had been Lukas of Cyprus or Cyrene (can't remember which of these specifically now) during the time of Yeshua, and was a healer. She mentioned that in this present life (as my Uncle), when he was younger, he had experienced possession/influence from dark beings.
The dream was interesting to me for various reasons. One, I remember my Mom telling me that this Uncle, her brother, when he was younger, had a terrible, dark temper and could really lose it. I had never seen that side of him though, and was surprised when she mentioned it.
Two, my Aunt's first name is Casey, which is pronounced the same as Cayce as in Edgar Cayce. Casey is actually the original form of the name.
Three, years before this dream, I had the intuition that my Spirit had had the life then of a person named Lucius. According to the Cayce readings, Lucius's uncle was "Luke" the physician. I didn't know it until after the dream and a little research, but our english "Luke", originally at that time would have been pronounced more like "Lukas" for the Greek. Interesting that my Uncle in this life, had been my other self's Uncle in that life.
The dream seemed to be both confirming my earlier intuition, and that Cayce's info about those individuals was correct. Btw also before the above dream, Bruce's professional psychic friend, Carolene, in her reading for me, mentioned that my Spirit had had a life during Yeshua's time and had known him. I said yes, I was aware of this, and I think that his name was Lucius. She said, "Yes, this feels true."
But no doubt, you'll chalk it up to delusion, demonic influence, or
whatever you religious Christians like to demonize people with when they have different views and perceptions than yourselves. You talk and talk about your great faith, your healings, your Church work, etc, etc but you don't even seem to practice some of the more basic of Yeshua's teachings here it seems. And I'm one of the few people here of the unwashed New Age Ghetto dwellers whom has stuck up for you at times over the years, when many here said basically to please leave.
I said to these during these times, let's try to practice real PUL in relation to Don, and try to see past his brusque, judgmental, holier than thou manner and interaction with others.
Some of the most true Christians, are people that don't even call themselves such, like Albert. Someone you would do well to pattern your life and interactions after, for he is much closer to Christ than you'll ever understand and perceive in this life. If you asked the Creator and Yeshua directly about this, they'd give you the straight dope, but the question is, can you handle the unvarnished truth about self?
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