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Things I learned about retrievals &c.
Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 12:12pm

Hello

The very best place to start is the beginning .... was that Alice who said that, or Dorothy or Maria from Sound of Music?

Fact is, I can't place the beginning point. There are junctures that appeared at the time to be a beginning, but there was something before that. My TMI Gateway Voyage is / was (I threw it away) on cassette tape. Think about that. Cassette tape. That's positively prehistoric. Disclaimer: I never attended TMI in person, only by remote owing to cost.

That's only a footnote. Here is a short summary, in Power Point sort of bullet points (RUN! It's a meeting!). Your mileage may vary. If symptoms persist, consult your doctor. Offer not good after curfew in sectors R or N.

I've been doing what it is I do for a much longer time than I believed I was.
All the course material — Robert Monroe's books; uncounted other books; TMI; William Buhlman; Bruce Moen; "real life" teachers; blah blah woof woof — have nothing to do with me learning anything. It was about remembering who I am. I already knew how.
A retrieval takes no time at all.
This takes a while to grok. I was taught — as most of us were — to achieve a meditative state, you know the drill. Nice, quiet undisturbed place, set aside a special time, make sure the "done" buzzer of the dryer doesn't go off as you're doing your afterlife territory work. And I learned this is, basically, utterly unnecessary (for me).
Relating what occurs in a retrieval is another thing. That can take an entire book chapter. But the actual work is done in the blink of an eye. Which leads to:
Time is of no relevance when I am at work.
When working in NOW, the results take place on all timelines, past, present, and future in all universes. Note: I've no interest in discussions of implications of time travel.
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Changing personal timelines is where it's at, baby. Dig it!
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Multitasking is totally normal, and easy.
I find it is entirely within my skill set to work in the afterlife territories and beyond as I enjoy conversation over dinner. This is fun, and it's very useful.
It all begins with dropping limiting beliefs.
This is kind of one of the points of embodiment here. Give up your vows, Jim Morrison sings. True, dat.

Likely I've more to add, and will do so.

Rath Dé ort,

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I Am Dude Super Member Offline Posts: 1462 Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #1 - Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:46pm If exploring nonphysical reality is possible while fully awake and engaged in conscious physical activities, I'd certainly like to learn this ability. Perhaps you could go into more detail regarding this?
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Morrighan Super Member Offline Multidimensional Navigator Posts: 505 Isle of Everywhere Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #2 - Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 9:14pm Meditation with eyes open and walking meditation might be good starting points. Yantras are often used as eyes open meditation tools. To me it's all about staying in my body and listening to her.
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Reply #3 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 11:58am

Walking meditation is a foundation for Buddhist practice, yet I'm unaware of any Buddhist who engages in extradimensional projections and retrievals while awake. Surely there is more to it than this. I've personally been having OBEs for 16 years and meditating for quite some time as well, so I may have the bases covered.

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Reply #4 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 12:10pm

Tom Campbell (My Big TOE) demonstrates the technique in more than one video. I haven't watched Tom in years so I can't point you at which. I recall watching and thinking: I'd like to be able to do that.

To me, the deal is staying in my body, not doing OBE. I agreed to this embodiment for a reason(s). Anyone can OBE, in my experience.

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Reply #5 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 5:05pm

While Tom Campbell is a pretty mature/old Soul type, he is by no means at the zenith of consciousness expansion.

Tom, like all humans, had/has blinders in certain areas. For example, he didn't do a very good job of discriminating Seth for what it is, nor the person he originally chose to run his forum. In both cases, he was unaware of the lacking in light nature of both. Tom also doesn't believe that ET's visit here in physical bodies and physical ships. He doesn't understand that there are ways to artificially speed up the vibration of matter, to temporarily phase it just outside of this dimension and thus outside of the rule sets of the speed of light, etc and it becomes less about "speed" or distance, and more about quantum like entanglement transference from point A to point B, time or distance wise.

So like with any human, a certain amount of readied salt is prudent to take. Me, I've been off on the exact timing of the changes/collapse a couple of times.

Only the Co-Creators have perfect or near perfect perception. Truly, in this world, it's best and most ideal to listen to these the most of any source. They will not steer a person wrong. Only one's receiving and translating can lack.

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Morrighan Super Member Offline Multidimensional Navigator Posts: 505 Isle of Everywhere Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #6 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:05pm To me, Mr. Campbell illustrates the skill of shifting seamlessly without OBE. As I said, I haven't paid any other notice to him in years. Batting 1000 is pretty rare.
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I Am Dude Super Member Offline Posts: 1462 Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #7 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 8:41pm Morrighan The lack of useful information you've provided regarding my inquiry is curious. Makes me wonder what your purpose is here.
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Reply #8 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 11:33pm

What might you like? Divining intent on Website posts is a slippery slope.

I believe you asked how to achieve perceptional shifts without the rigamarole of OBE and all associated preparations. And I suggested, as a starting point, meditation with eyes open, or walking meditation. I presented Mr. Campbell's ability instantly shift states as a point of consideration.

What I share in part is my experience of staying in body is a critical component. Our bodies have great wisdom in my experience. This is largely contrary to what we have been told and / or have learned. I spent a great deal of time doing all my work in the old way before I discovered it is all unnecessary for me. Thus do I share some of my experiences.

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Reply #9 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 12:29am

I've only ever had a couple classic out of body experiences.

ALL OF IT, all nonphysical experiences, perceptions, etc, is really about phasing/shifting. Even in classic out of body, it's not really that one is going out of body. That's an illusion of limited perspective.

It's like quantum physics, Bell's Theorem and non locality. It all takes place in consciousness and consciousness is One. Since it's One, there is no real linear space and time as we perceive it.

But there are both rule sets and tendencies to this focus, and when a consciousness is focusing strongly in this focus/level/dimension/whatever you call it, you get influenced by same. Each focus level is like a specific color or colored lens. When you focus in or through same, on that specific color or colored lens, you become colored by the color to some extent. Continuing that metaphor, the physical is the red level.

The trick is to not let the slow vibratory nature of the body influence your consciousness too much, but to have the fast vibratory nature of one's consciousness to gain control of and to infuse the slow vibratory construct of the body with it's fast vibratory essence.

Eventually releasing the stuck physical construct to it's original form and nature, which originally was not so limited and stuck in nature.

Some of the most profound and most spiritually expanded experiences I've had, have taken place in meditation so deep that I became completely unaware of my physical body and physical surroundings, and became so focused on a much, much more expanded dimension/focus.

In here lies the meaning of Edgar Cayce and his work.

In here lies the meaning of Bob Monroe's visit near the aperture and his communication with the completed beings, and coming back to a body that almost died.

In here lies the meaning of the Biblical teaching, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Interesting how you consistently try to teach exactly the opposite. Interesting how you seem to put the body on a pedestal.

The body as a construct, as a perspective, as an experience, is the opposite of Spirit. It's is the Soul's temporary, projected shadow. We are here to transform and retrieve it, not to continue it indefinitely. It is the Reptilians, the anti retriever, and the psychopathic Souls that want to continue the stuck physical indefinitely. It is they whom are addicted to it and the slow vibratory/lacking in Love nature of same.

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Reply #10 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 1:04am

Another way to understand this whole process in a metaphorical sense is the following:

When we, the individuated aspects/prisms of Source used our prisms of will to imbalance and break up the White Light, the original consciousness, into various different, seemingly separated colors, these naturally got ordered in a system from slowest to fastest vibratory.

This is like the physics of color as compared to light.

Red is the slowest vibratory (most limited/stuck) dimension and violet/magenta is the fastest vibratory/least stuck of the stuck dimensions.

The physical body is the red part of the spectrum. The higher dimensions are the violet and golden levels.

In truth, they are part of a circle and circular nature of the system--sort of like a color wheel.

Point is, too much focus on the physical body (red end of spectrum), and you really start to limit your consciousness in both a perceptual and beingness kind of way.

Just like in auras and their relation to a person's character and spiritual development, the more attuned to pure Love one becomes, the faster vibratory the colors that radiate become. Eventually we get to the violet level and we can then try to integrate/balance all levels back within one, and know the White Light state again.

But the violet, the Pineal is the Door before that state. I tell you truly, as Yeshua is speaking to me now, one will never get there by over focusing on the body and the red part of the spectrum. Too much of that, will only limit self.

This is why psychopathic personalities are so, so, so focused on material reality. All they know and care about is the red part of the spectrum. Psychopaths are almost always at their core materialist atheists with no interest or awareness of spirituality, metaphysics, deeper philosophy. Occasionally some have some nonphysical awareness, but they have no concern with things like Love, Source, Oneness, etc.

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Morrighan Super Member Offline Multidimensional Navigator Posts: 505 Isle of Everywhere Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #11 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:51am My interest is with what I actually find, respective of what I read or heard of somewhere. I am my own person. I know who I AM. If pregnant or breast-feeding, ask a health professional before use. Separate topic: we choose to embody here now as humans. This is what I find.
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Reply #12 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 12:08pm

Sometimes an individuated self is just not enough. Sometimes it takes a whole village. And sometimes within that village are selves much wiser/more aware than oneself.

The true mark of humility, is accepting the need of, and learning to listen to those selves whom are much, much more aware and clear than self.

This is what my meditations are about--I've made a habit of attuning to and listening to those selves whom are much, much more aware and clearly perceiving than myself. More over, I specifically ask to communicate with the most aware, clear, expanded selves.

I then communicate, in somewhat garbled, distorted form, what is communicated to me. But most don't want to hear it or certain aspects of it, not because there isn't truth to it, but because there is more potent truth to it than they are used to. We all of course could do this, but most just don't and won't.

Many humans are not particularly interested in potent truth--they are much more interested in comfort. The devil you know, is less frightening than the angel you don't.

Plato's allegory of The Cave applies much here. Many humans have eyes who have become so accustomed to a lack of Light (aka the 'dark'), that when bright Light is shined in their direction, they can't handle it and can become a bit Golam'ish like and exclaim angrily, "ah, that ugly light, it burns us, it burns us. Get away from us ugly light, get away."

Yet another strange irony of the interaction of unreality with that of reality. Thankfully, this sacrificial Goat-Fish can handle the heat/backlash. From one Goat-Fish to a more earthly focused Goat, here's a Goat hoof high five. Cheesy

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Morrighan Super Member Offline Multidimensional Navigator Posts: 505 Isle of Everywhere Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #13 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 1:00pm I know Miles Davis and coffee on a Sunday morning is part of what connects me to the greater whole. https://youtu.be/_uqtzuGtjuA
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rondele Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 181 Virginia Gender:	Re: Things I learned about retrievals &c. Reply #14 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 5:14pm Miles Davis a good choice. Speaking of Sunday mornings here's another classic to get in the mood. https://youtu.be/DQAKY1ntM9o R
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