Hi Bruce,

I still have the receipt from buying your first book "Voyages Into the Unknown" at Barnes and Noble--I'd always kept it in the book for some reason, and now I've had it so long I don't want to throw it out.  But because of it I can see that I bought the book in September 1998, a birthday present to myself.  I remember loving the cover and how fascinating the book sounded.  I bought it probably mostly because you mentioned having been to The Monroe Institute.  I'd read Robert Monroe's books when I was a teenager. 

It made me think to ask you this--and I know we've known each other so many years that I don't know why I don't know this or if I just have forgotten--but did you intend from the beginning that your books would be a series?  Was it always planned that way or did it just come about that way after you began writing?

And refresh my memory please, what year did you first attend TMI, and which programs there have you taken?

After buying your first book in 1998 I started it and then thought it was a bunch of hooey, and stuck it on the bookshelf, not picking it up again for another 6 years, then after I remember wanting to slap myself for not having read the whole thing back when I got it.  I guess I wasn't ready for it then.  I'm sure glad I finally got around to it.  And so glad I got to meet you and become friends.  You changed my life and it set me on a course, and every day I'm grateful for it.

So, I'm thinking about all this tonight because I needed to find a new book start reading, and I just felt like reading your series all over again. 

I'm so grateful to you Bruce 

Vicky

Vicky wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:17pm:


Vicky,

Originally I intended to write only one book, which would have been my first two books published as a single volume.  The publisher said selling 600 page books was not a reasonable approach.  The third and fourth books were written as a result of continuing explorations and the revelation of the full circle story.  The fifth, the Guidebook, was my attempt to make it easy and inexpensive for anyone to learn to explore on their own.

I think my first TMI program, Gateway Voyage, was in 1991 or 92.  Later came Lifeline, Exploration 27, Beyond Exploration 27, and Starlines.  The last program I attended at TMI was before my stroke in 2003.  I wanted to take a few specific programs after that but was never able to afford them as prices climbed.

Bruce

Justin mentioned finding out about Disks through Bruce's books.

I read Robert Monroe's Ultimate Journey before I read Bruce's books, this was the first time I heard of the I-there (Disk) viewpoint, and it really resonated with me. Shortly afterwards I received confirmations of such viewpoint.

For a number of years I didn't think about it a lot, did a couple of months ago, and was shown another confirmation. When I make contact with such group, I don't do as Bruce, as when he made contact with Coach etc. For me, names aren't provided.

Vicky:

I can't say with absolute certainty how reincarnation works. Going by the info I received, it seems as if it works in a Disk way. Each probe is a different being, and therefore no one unit has to incarnate more than once. There might be exceptions.

What NDErs PMH Atwater, Ron Kreuger,  and Tom Sawyer say seem to support my viewpoint. PHM says she is just one finger of the totality of her soul.  Ron Kreuger wrote of meeting his disk (he didn't use that term) and he met his previous incarnations.

Going by what Robert Monroe wrote in Ultimate Journey, he was an extension of his disk.

Jeraldine Cummins received information from Frederick Myers after he passed away, and Frederick said that we are a part of soul groups, and past life memories come from soul group members that shared information with us. I
copy and pasted the below from another conversation that took place on this forum.

GROUP-SOUL, a philosophical concept, expounded by the discarnate F. W. H. Myers in The Road to Immortality, of a number of souls, all bound together by one spirit, acting and reacting upon one another in the ascending scale of psychic evolution.  There may be contained within that spirit twenty, a hundred, a thousand souls.  "The number varies.  It is different for each man.  But what the Buddhists would call the karma I had brought with me from a previous life is, very frequently, not that of my life, but of the life of a soul that preceded me by many years on earth and left for me the pattern which made my life.  I, too, wove a pattern for another of my group during my earthly career. . . .  I shall not live again on earth, but a new soul, one who will join our group, will shortly enter into the pattern or karma I have woven for him on earth. . . .  Here, in the After-death, we become more and more aware of this group-soul as we make progress.  Eventually we enter into it and share the experiences of our brethren. . .  Its spirit feeds, with life and mental light, certain plants, trees, flowers, birds, insects, fish, beasts, men and women; representatives of living creatures in varying stages of evolution.  It inspires souls who are on various planes, various levels of consciousness in the After-death.  It feeds also creatures on other planets.  For the spirit must gather a harvest of experience in every form."

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1282475403/0

Recoverer 2 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 1:48pm:


That's something I'd like to hear and talk about.  Do you mind sharing it?

I have the time now.

One night I was laying in bed and felt concerned about being a being who is aware of more than one self at a time, because I thought it might be difficult.

Suddenly I found myself like in space (not physical), and I experienced myself as an Oversoul like being that is aware of numerous selves at the same time. It wasn't difficult to be aware in such a way because I was large spacious being and my selves fit into my being quite easily. I felt like this large spirit being, yet I was still me. It felt cool.

I can't say that I experienced this to the same extent an oversoul would experience. I figure that my oversoul, disk, higher self, whatever, was aware of what I thought, so it enabled me to experience as I did.

   While I think the Disk/many projected probes kind of reincarnation is the most common, I've also found that direct/literal reincarnation happens. 

   My spouse one time had a very interesting dream where she was talking to a guide like figure and the individual told her our "spiritual names".

  She said mine sounded like a Russian version of William.  I looked up various different versions of William in Russian sometime later.  One stood out to me more than all the others. 

  It was something like Vasya.  I told an intuitive Scandinavian friend of mine about it, and she pointed out that in Russian, V's are pronounced like W's, and that to her, it sounded like the dream was saying "Was Ra".  Various different inner and outer experiences and guidance messages have correlated with this info.   

    So yes, it seems sometimes direct, literal reincarnation happens. In this case, it only took about 13, 000 Earth years to get the feet back in the fire. I can also say with certainty, I didn't come here out of a desire for a vacation, but for retrieval reasons primarily. 

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I can accept that both are possible. 

Even though limiting in itself, having experiences that define my beliefs are wonderful experiences.  And I rarely question them, you know?  I just love the feeling of accepting that that's what I believe.  It's those "weird" other off the wall kind of experiences that leave me scratching my head, making me feel even more confused, that I am not so fond of, ha ha.  I mean, I like being open-minded, but I don't like still being left feeling like I have no clue what to think about that.  Sometimes no matter how much I ask my Guidance to please show me/explain to me something, I get nothing.     And then it leaves me wondering what I'm doing to block my perception. 

Guess I need to work on unblocking some beliefs about that?? 

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Serious question here, I mean no disrespect, but does your mom know who your father is/was?  I met a woman several months ago who told of a similar story.  She believes she has alien DNA.  And since then I've heard of other people say the same thing.  Up until then I'd never heard of this kind of stuff.

Regarding reincarnation sometimes happening in the regular way, one night I finished doing a retrieval in the way I do them, and I heard a voice ask, "how do you know how to do them?" Then I had like an inbetween state experience and I was told that I did retrievals this way during a past life. The funny thing about this is that I knew what would be said before I heard the words. This caused me to wonder if my mind created this experience, but I believe the knowing of what would be said came before I heard the words.

It could be that I received information in this way because  sometimes I can be stubborn about accepting my knowings, my intuition. It could be that Robert Monroe and Bruce Moen was/is better at accepting rotes of information than I.

After this experience I heard a very pleasant lady voice say   "we're very proud of you." Overall, the impression I got was that I was told that I helped with retrievals during a past life that existed in a linear way.

Regarding receiving answers from guidance, I hardly ever ask them questions, because they don't tend to answer.  I believe this is because they believe I should figure some things out myself, trust my intuition and knowings, and what has already been explained.

On the other hand information is passed on to me during dreams, and while meditating, sometimes my guidance will provide a perspective to help me see what is limiting me.

Earlier on this thread I said that I fairly recently asked for a confirmation about the disk thing, I received a response, so sometimes I receive answers.

Regarding having weird experiences, yes I've had some of those, I figure I'll wait until my life review to figure out what they are about.

Vicky, thank you for your input.

  Nice last post/points Vicky.  Very well thought out and well presented.  Thank you.

   Re: direct, literal reincarnation, my sense of the reason why it's much more rare than the new Disk mixes type, is because these human Earth lives are no walk in the park.  For Souls whom have directly experienced it, I think often after a life finishes, we are like, "Whoo, glad that's out of the way. Yeah, not doing THAT again anytime soon."   There are of course exceptions.  Some of the very immature Souls cycle in and out fairly often, because they are addicted to the stimulus and action here.  Being low on empathy, sensitivity, and high on power/control issues, human experiences don't phase them much. 

  Cayce's guidance once said something like, the longer the time spent between lives, often the more spiritually evolved the Soul.  Not as a hard and fast rule, but as a general trend/average. 

  However...just like there has been an increase of ET Souls incarnating here of late, I get the sense that there is a higher percentage of repeaters here than normal as well.

   And a percentage of the ET Souls are ones that had a human experience before they graduated out of this system, and now are coming back. In these, often Arcturus the Star is strong in a special kind of astrological chart delineation.   

  The reason for the above two trends is because Souls with such experience/background, have a higher probable potential of handling their new Earth lives better than the average, and gaining more complete control over their bucking bronco human animal bodies.     Since this is such a critical time in the human history, Expanded Guidance has been sending in some of the best and brightest helpers there are.  Ones that are very strong, and very attuned to the Light within.  Things are truly critical in this cycle. There is still the potential/possibility for going either way--great and rapid collective growth, or even much worse collective stuckness and extreme suffering (this is why promotion of vacation type beliefs really bother me).   

   Plenty of even older type Souls have had trouble with one or more aspects of their bodies and Earth life.  Take Bob Monroe for example, definitely an older Soul but he didn't have a whole lot of discipline when it came to his diet or the health of his body.  His Disk self level in cahoots with his body had to basically try to force him to treat his body better, and even then he had a hard time of it. He was stubborn and didn't want to see the need for change and discipline.  Not even after "Ah So" sternly talked to him and Rosie about this issue.   

   The health/balance of the body is part of the package deal of consciousness expression here.  If the body get's too imbalanced, it creates gunk between the flow one's consciousness and the attunement and/or expression of same through the body in the physical world. 

   Attuning to one's expanded self and expanded guidance is a very holistic process that involves the physical, mental, and spiritual aspects of the human energy system.  Repeaters, especially ones coming in with both human and ET direct experience, often know this better than most from the get go. 

  For an example, most of the just previously ET Souls I've met, are towards the vegetarian, vegan, or pescatarian in diet.  Not all, but most. 

  By "ET", I don't necessarily mean experiences in running around in little grey bodies or the like.  Some of these systems and experiences are in completely mental/nonphysical levels which are not body based.  In these, your unique individuality IS your body in a sense.