These posts are off topic? Dude asked about false light, Morrighan  mentioned something similar, and people discussed whether such a thing makes sense.

I believe it is a shame that these posts were moved, because  I didn't write them for my own sake, I was trying to be helpful for anyone who might be considering the false light thing that supposedly forces many people to reincarnate. When such information is presented in varied and questionable ways, perhaps it should be discussed.

Please, can the good intentions of others please be considered?

Hi all,

I haven't been keeping up on here regularly, sorry.  I tried playing catch-up on the White Light Trap thread and it made my head spin!     

The reason Bruce cut and pasted just the off-topic posts (and I'm glad he did) was to obviously keep things on topic and neat and tidy. 

Justin, I don't know what was going on with you not being able to log on/access the site but I don't think anything nefarious was going on.  Next time you have a tech issue let Allan know in the tech support forum.  And if you can't get on to do it, as in the case you just experienced, you could contact me via email and I'll be happy to pass the info on.  I always love being of help any way I can.

Rondele, I just now got your cheese comment.   

And finally, I'm glad this site is still going and it's nice to see some of the old group still having conversations. 

Vicky

It must be an outside problem, not someone of authority silently banning you.  Bruce wouldn't do that.

About the white light trap issue, do you mean the belief that ETs are capable of and are fooling people when they die, using the light as a lure?  I can only speak for myself and my own experience and belief.  I fully and completely trust my own experiences because I've had so many astounding experiences and can't say that anything truly scary has happened to me.  I've always felt a sense of guidance and protection.  When I had my near-death experience it was all loving.  I wanted to stay there, fully aware that it meant I'd be leaving my two young children behind. To me it was a ludicrous idea to go back, but I was told to go back and then was pulled (forced) back.  Now that I think about it--thanks for making me realize this--I fully believe and know now that I don't have to worry about being stuck when I die.  I know it's rare to be stuck, but when I think of all the feelings and frustrations I have in this life, I sometimes think of how easy it would be to be stuck, you know?

  Yep, was blocked again.   

  But no one is doing it--it's just somehow spontaneously happening.  Perhaps a spontaneous computer virus that only ever applies to this site. 

  Truly, we live in times of strange miracles.

suv wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:


Most NDEs have similar aspects to them.  I found a list created by IANDS from many, many reported NDEs.  It was neat to see that I had many of those on the list in my NDE.

But NDEs are so varied when it comes to the deeper aspects...the reason why it happened, where the person was in their beliefs and spiritual development, etc. 

I know that during my NDE, although what I was experiencing was exceptionally incredible, I still was only experiencing a small perspective of a much bigger picture.  I knew that there was so much more of my Being that I wasn't even fully aware of from the perspective I was in at the moment...but I knew it existed.  From my own experience, my best explanation for why people are sent back seemingly against their will is because we do not always know what's best for us.  It's like, as a child if my parents had allowed me to eat nothing but cakes and cookies (which is what I thought I wanted) instead of forcing me to eat vegetables against my will, well then that would not have had a good outcome for me.  Looking back now as an adult (from a much broader perspective of who I really am compared to who I was as a child) I can see that I am so happy I wasn't just given what I thought I wanted. 

There are reports of NDEs where people were given a choice and they chose to come back.  And we must logically assume therefore that some people who had NDEs were also given a choice and chose to stay!  Of course, we don't get to hear of those do we. 

When I was forced back I was SO angry.  I can still remember how mad I was.  But now, I'm so happy I was made to come back.  There's a reason, even if we don't know what the reasons are from our limited perspective here. 

I've read a lot of NDE accounts, and it seems as if returning always served a positive purpose. Sometimes the purpose for returning was something as simple as taking care of the children a person left behind.

Another reason for returning, a big reason, is sharing what was experienced with other people.

Returnees tell people about the importance of living according to love. They let people know that there is much more to reality than this world, and there is much to look forward to after their life here in this world is completed.

Many near death experiencers go through an extensive life review, and after they return they end up being better people than they were before they had their NDE. It is hard to imagine why a malevolent being would effect such a change. I doubt that a malevolent being could play a part in a person experiencing a life review that is very honest, detailed, and life changing.

When I had an experience that was like an NDE, I felt like I was in the place that I truly belonged. Yet I am here, and I am okay with this, because there are ways in which I can be helpful while here. Yet, I also wish that I was where I truly belong. This is how it is when a person is aware of what life in this world is like, and what life is like in a love-based realm. A person lives according two conflicting desires. So I understand why many NDErs didn't want to return, but did so anyway. If they consider the matter from their higher self perspective, they understand why they chose to return. It isn't as if they will be here for long, when compared to the eternity of their soul.

When I become impatient to return to the light, my higher self will create a dream that helps me remember why I am here. Such dreams are presented in a way where I have a choice, and I choose to stay. In fact, if I was urged to return, I would beg to stay, so I can continue to help. Ways of helping, I have a mother in her 80s that needs my help. I help with retrievals. There are other ways that I help.  Since I am able to help now in ways that I won't be able to help years from now, it is best that I stay here.

Regarding the Tibetan Book of the Dead, I haven't read it since the early 1980s and don't remember it well. I'm familiar with Tibetan Buddhism, it has its shortcomings, and I wouldn't make the mistake of concluding that a related text is infallible. There are two main types of Buddhism, Mahayana and Therevaden, and they disagree with each other about some key points.

Perhaps one way to insure that you return to a place of love and integrity after you die, is to live according to those qualities as much as you can, while you are in this world. That way, you will have a tendency to gravitate to a similar realm after you die.



suv wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

Recoverer 2 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 11:32am:


Seldom do I see religious institutions revise their teachings once determined to be in error. The normal course is to double down. Typically this means blaming the student for being insufficiently faithful.