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Reply #91 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 1:05pm

recoverer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

Alan:

Does God want you to call people stupid?

Again you want to make Almighty God into some all forgiving old grandpa in the sky.

I said that some people are stupid, how on earth would I know what an Infinite Being thought of the issue.

However, in my opinion, if someone is stupid against all evidence that proves his beliefs are nonsense, God would have no reservations calling him stupid.

I did not mean mentally challenged people

I meant people who believe the Earth is flat or hollow or the whole universe was created in just six literal days and the age of the Earth is only six thousand years old. They are stupid what else should I call them , no amount of evidence to the contrary, will shift them out of their stupidity. Even some scientist believe this garbage and this makes them even more stupid than the man on the street because they should know better!!

Lies are closely linked to creating a host of stupid people, those who believe lying nonsense are stupid Period!

Stupidity is stupidity no matter the source of that stupidity if Albert Einstein said something stupid, it is stupidity on his behalf!

Only stupid people believe that George Bush or the British royal shapeshifting reptilian aliens.

Do you really think the Creator of Heaven and Earth would create alien monsters and reptilian shapeshifters?

By the way, to shapeshifting is a scientific impossibility and utter nonsensical rubbish!

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Reply #92 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

If people can exist as mammals, why couldn't an alien race exist in some form of Reptilian form?

On one of your posts you stated that God created Satan because he wanted evil to oppose us, but then you doubt that he would create Reptilian like beings. Seems kind of contradictory. Of course if Reptilian like beings exist (It's a big universe out there, all kinds of beings might exist), they could've been created without God creating them directly.

Consider yourself, to some degree God created you, but I doubt that he created you with the thought that you would someday express the viewpoints you are now expressing. Your viewpoints are the result of how free will has been expressed by your soul. Well, sort of free will, at the time you are so caught up in a fear-based belief system, it doesn't seem as if you are able to use your free will in a truly meaningful way.

I doubt that God would use a derogatory term such as stupid in the way you use it. Rather, he understands that sometimes people becomes confused.

The fact of how the Bible can play a role in people getting caught up in fear-based belief systems such as the one you are demonstrating, shows that the Bible wasn't written by God, for he would write a book that wouldn't have such an effect. The Bible was written by numerous men, its chapters were chosen and translated by men, and some of these chapters are based on stories that were passed on by word of mouth for a number of years before the stories were written. This being the case, certainly there is some room for error. Can you see this?

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Reply #93 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 1:54pm

In my mind, dualism (seeing the world as good vs. evil, light vs. dark, us vs. them) is to lose the forest for the trees. There is a unity underneath it all, and the most enlightened folk seem to get beyond the game of forms, the false polarity of opposites, and get in touch with the divine without the need to separate forces into opposing sides.

Our primary source of unhappiness is the false notion that we are isolated beings separate from God and the rest of the universe. It is a false notion, perpetuated by our ego, which sets up the polarity of opposites, and so most of us get lost in this reality of "us vs. them." And in that mindset, evil does indeed exist - if you choose to live in that mindset. And evil doers, are people like everyone else, who choose to do evil. They choose to ignore their inner essence of goodness, and their actions bind them in the physical world.

Lao Tzu talks of another mindset that of the Tao. The Tao, which literally means "way" is, God's connection to all things, unmanifest and manifest. He who is in touch with this can see the opposites (good, evil, light and dark) but realizes, at a fundamental level that these are artificial distinctions of polarities on a continuum.

There is no opposite to love. Love, as I understand it is not the opposite of hate. The opposite of hating is "liking" something in an ego-related way. Love is part of our primal essence. An evil person chooses to turn away from love (and God). It is an active choice.

An enlightened thinker can move past these polarities, and try to walk the walk of being true to their loving nature, without having to dwell in the false polarity of opposites.

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Reply #94 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 5:28pm

DocM wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

In my mind, dualism (seeing the world as good vs. evil, light vs. dark, us vs. them) is to lose the forest for the trees. There is a unity underneath it all, and the most enlightened folk seem to get beyond the game of forms, the false polarity of opposites, and get in touch with the divine without the need to separate forces into opposing sides.

Our primary source of unhappiness is the false notion that we are isolated beings separate from God and the rest of the universe. It is a false notion, perpetuated by our ego, which sets up the polarity of opposites, and so most of us get lost in this reality of "us vs. them." And in that mindset, evil does indeed exist - if you choose to live in that mindset. And evil doers, are people like everyone else, who choose to do evil. They choose to ignore their inner essence of goodness, and their actions bind them in the physical world.

Lao Tzu talks of another mindset that of the Tao. The Tao, which literally means "way" is, God's connection to all things, unmanifest and manifest. He who is in touch with this can see the opposites (good, evil, light and dark) but realizes, at a fundamental level that these are artificial distinctions of polarities on a continuum.

There is no opposite to love. Love, as I understand it is not the opposite of hate. The opposite of hating is "liking" something in an ego-related way. Love is part of our primal essence. An evil person chooses to turn away from love (and God). It is an active choice.

An enlightened thinker can move past these polarities, and try to walk the walk of being true to their loving nature, without having to dwell in the false polarity of opposites.

M

You quote all the above as if it were fact when it is just your opinion!

And to top it all you say an enlightened thinker will work past duality, That makes me a dark and most unenlightened thinker.

Duality is real, right there in your face every day, yet you are delusional and think it is not there.

Like evil not existing and only good a reality, something like a donut, with the do ring representing good and the empty hole showing that evil is just nothing but air and does not exist as a reality!.

Go and tell that nonsense to the victims of Hitlers Death Camps and you will get a very hot response from such rubbish.

Evil is a real as Good.

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Reply #95 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 5:41pm

recoverer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

If people can exist as mammals, why couldn't an alien race exist in some form of Reptilian form?

On one of your posts you stated that God created Satan because he wanted evil to oppose us, but then you doubt that he would create Reptilian like beings. Seems kind of contradictory. Of course if Reptilian like beings exist (It's a big universe out there, all kinds of beings might exist), they could've been created without God creating them directly.

Consider yourself, to some degree God created you, but I doubt that he created you with the thought that you would someday express the viewpoints you are now expressing. Your viewpoints are the result of how free will has been expressed by your soul. Well, sort of free will, at the time you are so caught up in a fear-based belief system, it doesn't seem as if you are able to use your free will in a truly meaningful way.

I doubt that God would use a derogatory term such as stupid in the way you use it. Rather, he understands that sometimes people becomes confused.

The fact of how the Bible can play a role in people getting caught up in fear-based belief systems such as the one you are demonstrating, shows that the Bible wasn't written by God, for he would write a book that wouldn't have such an effect. The Bible was written by numerous men, its chapters were chosen and translated by men, and some of these chapters are based on stories that were passed on by word of mouth for a number of years before the stories were written. This being the case, certainly there is some room for error. Can you see this?

Who is this YOU you are speaking to in this post?

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