Why are you so upset by my post?

If it does not apply to you, then ignore it.   

And if it does apply to you; if you believe in telepathic reptilian aliens trying to get into people’s minds, and who are able to appear as human beings, often as our political leaders; if you believe western society must be destroyed, and if you are awaiting its happening; if you believe you are a foreteller (a prophet) of that destruction, and if you believe you are a leader of others through societal collapse and transition into a new age; then again, why are you upset by my post?

This forum and others are peppered with posts supporting that new religion of societal destruction and transition. On this forum there are several threads dedicated wholly to it. So what is wrong with me summarising it? and why do you call me cruel and a bully?

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  1796, it is fine to summarize if one does so accurately and objectively, but what you are doing is neither. It is more akin to US politics and political smear campaigning.

  For example, speaking about negative ET's, you write of others beliefs, "who are able to appear as human beings, often as our political leaders;"

   Neither Recoverer or i have ever said that these ET's appear as political leaders. 

    That negative beings may sometimes try to influence the movers and shakers of this world, is another matter, and one that even Tom Campbell has indicated happens. 

   Also, it seems that time and time again that you gloss over that what you make fun of so consistently, various more credible sources indicate there is some truth to these things. 

   You have referenced to Bob Monroe in the past and seem to respect him.  Bob is on record as saying that ET's meddle or influence our human affairs, and his Expanded, Disk self level (INSPEC etc) told him that virtually all of his/their lives involved some ET influence. 

  You also ignore that one of Bob's longest time and most successful explorers Rosalind McKnight and their guidance point blank said that a negative ET group is involved with this world, and eventually would be involved in starting an outright war of aggression towards us.  They also said that positive and helpful ET's were involved with our world and were protecting us until we were grown enough to deal with them in these overt ways.

   If you know anything about Bob and his relationship with Rosie and her guidance, you would know that Bob had a very, very high respect for them.  Bob referred to Rosie's main guide as "Ah So", partly because this source was so enlightening and wise. Bob indicated to Rosie on more than one occasion, that Rosie's guidance would frequently telepathically read his mind and answer questions before he asked. 

    He also reported that if they parked too close to Rosie's sessions, the car batteries would get drained somehow.

   I never met Bob in physical, but i met in person and was friends with Rosie and she was obviously an old Soul with more expanded perception than the average--she just struck me as wise and loving. 

  These are only two sources.  Then there is Edgar Cayce's work which hints that one, ET's exist and two that negative forces are very much involved in this world.

   As far as Earth changes go, again, it's similar. MANY more credible sources, including the above three, speak of these as probable, so doesn't the NT and Yeshua, and so don't various sources from NDE's to Native American tribes.  That i recognize this as a necessity and as probable, does not mean that i hate people--it means that i know that this world will not change for the better to that golden spiritual age that many have seen happening after the collapse/breakdown, without major outer catalysts.

  See the conservation between He/She and Bob Monroe as it touches on this.  He/She talks about a plan to unify humanity that will not involve any kind of ism, but "world wide recognized necessity".   Bob says recognized necessity is severe stuff and that the "world would have to be in pretty rough shape".  He/She replies, "that's why the waiting, the time will come."

  Do you claim to be wiser and more aware than He/She oh arrogant one?

You speak of things you don't know, and think self is so much the expert that self knows everything.  You have much to learn about much. Classic OBE's can only take one so far. 

   When you attune to PUL a lot more and more consistently, more will open up to you, but until then, you do sound and act like a school yard, bellicose bully sometimes. 

  You also do not seem to be a truth seeker, but seek to confirm only what you believe, preconceive, or want to believe. You dislike the idea of collapse, not for any great love of others, but because of your selfish, materialistic side is too attached to the things of the world.

   I could care less what you say or don't say about me, but it does bother me some that you represent and talk about Yeshua.  For him, with friends like you, who needs enemies?

  Oh, btw, a question to a supposed Christian?  Why does the Bible in general, and also Yeshua and Yochanan (John the Baptist) specifically make frequent reference to serpents/vipers in a negative manner? 

  Ever read the Dead Sea Scrolls?  These make even more reference to serpents/vipers and sometimes in a way that talks about negative beings with a serpent/viper like appearance.  See Testament of Amram where he was psychically viewing the Archangel Michael battling a being with the visage of a "Viper" over who would influence his Soul and whether towards the Light or lack of same.

   Consider the Apostle John's words "He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years."  Here we have John outright saying that Satan/the devil aka the adversary and tempter is an ancient serpent, but only allegory i suppose.


   Curious that, curious that ancient figurines have been found of these Reptilian humanoid looking beings, and that other cultures and sources have talked of these visiting gods (what ancient people called ET's).

  Hmm, both Recoverer and i have had various experiences and guidance messages indicate to us that a negative ET group is involved with this world, and on occasion, we've seen them as Reptilian looking.  My spouse had a dream about this before we even considered, in an open minded way, the possibility of this.

  Hmm, maybe it's at least a possibility that there is a negative ET group which appears reptilian like in appearance? 

   But if the Almighty 1796 doesn't believe it's true, it can't possibly be true, but of course. 

  Occasionally bratty, aggressive children do need to be spanked. Yeshua spanked the Pharisee's, Sadducee, and other self stylized experts who were misleading people on occasion. 

   

Justin:

Good point about what Robert Monroe said about unfriendly influences. He speaks of them in "Ultimate Journey." He says that some of these influences were never human, and have been interacting with humanity for years. Perhaps he found out something that is factual, rather than simply imagining what he expected to imagine (this is a rebuttal to Doc's contention).

For myself, I found out about unfriendly  aliens not because I expected to or wanted to, but because friendly spirits I have found to be trustworthy decided to let me know about them. If it is possible to find out about other things that aren't imagination based, then perhaps it is possible to find out about unfrienly aliens without being misled.

Bruce Moen didn't write about unfriendly aliens but he wrote about friendly aliens and what seemed to be neutral aliens (the later, aliens he sharred PUL with). He also wrote of the gathering, a place where aliens keep track of expected Earth changes.

You brought up Rosalind McKnight. In one of his books Bruce wrote that he was touched by the Patrick event that took place during the Monroe Institute Explorer sessions. Below is a link that has the tape for that event (session # 17). If he considers that session valid, I wonder  if he considers the sessions where Robert Monroe was informed through Rosalind that unfriendly aliens interact with this World, valid.

https://www.monroeinstitute.org/explorer-series

The part about retrievals starts at around the 9 minute point.

  Good points Albert. 

Related to what i said earlier. The only time Yeshua refers to these serpents/vipers in any kind of positive sense, is when he sends out the 70 or 72 disciples into the gentile world, and he cautions them among others things to be as gentle as doves, but as wise* as serpents.

    But that is not the more accurate translation, the more accurate translation of that word is not wise, but more akin to the concept/idea of clever.  Yeshua was basically saying something like, keep your street smarts about you when in these foreign lands, don't let people trick or take advantage of you, but at the same time, do no harm (gentle as doves).

   Now, how did Yeshua go about making this association between serpents/vipers and cleverness if he was only speaking about earthly snakes or lizards?  What about them seems particularly clever?  Doves being gentle makes sense, but the other one doesn't.

   Perhaps this this hits home the point that he was possibly referring to perhaps a very intelligent ET race that tends to be more clever than humans?

   How is Satan/the Devil, the tempter and misleader of humanity from the beginning a "serpent" and/or dragon like?  Perhaps John knew, either from what Yeshua told him or psychically, that the Reptilian ET's have been involved in misleading humans from the get go.

   Maybe people had had physical and nonphysical encounters with these evil, psychopathic beings and saw that they looked akin to our earthly reptilians in some ways?   That is exactly what Amram in the Dead Sea Scrolls states. 

    When there is so much circumstantial evidence for something, and so many diverse and unrelated sources speaking of similar things, chances are, there is probably something to it. 

   We humans know next to nothing about ET's and ET life.  Bob Monroe was told that there were countless ET groups out there.  Is it logical or even probable that all of them are PUL based and friendly towards humans? 

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http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/unanswered-mystery-7000-yea...

  The Asian cultures speak of dragons more so than serpents.  For some reason, they venerated these more than some Western cultures which typically viewed them more as evil.  Sometime people like to venerate anything that is more seemingly powerful than themselves, or because they lack insight into the nature of that which they are venerating.