More or less agree. It seems that people tend to go to extremes with this whole subject.  Some people advise against all or any contact, exploration, etc because of negative forces or beings, and those that seem to think there are no negative forces/beings or that if there are, they are always no big deal. 

   I've found that reality is somewhere in between the two extremes and polar opposites, and while discernment is important, there is no need for fear to the point of complete passiveness. 

  For an example, while i've had experiences and/or guidance that indicate there are misleading and even semi powerful negative beings out there, i don't live in fear of them, nor let them control whether or not i decide to explore.  It's more akin to the detached caution i might feel when hiking in a place with a lot of disease carrying ticks, Grizzles, or some other potential challenge or difficulty.  I acknowledge the potential danger, take due precautions in a pragmatic, detached way, but still go out there.  If i went to a prison with a lot of psychopaths in same, sure, i would be more vigilant than usual.

   If you understand the basic laws and reactions built into the whole system, especially that of Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like, and if you understand and know that guidance, both limited and expanded/unlimited, exist, then with some wisdom, discernment, and attuning to the creative-constructive within and without, then these can help one to steer clear of any major traps without.

  But you still have to deal with your own shadow side, which can be tricky enough if you're unconscious to it.   

   I've also learned that as you grow and mature, sometimes guidance will help you less, and hold your hand less so to speak.  You may have to, eventually when you're strong, balanced, and wise enough, deal with certain hindering forces without much shielding or overt help. 

But expanded guidance knows us, in many ways, better than we do ourselves, and they are wise enough to know when to help or not help depending on the need and relativity involved. Sometimes we are stronger than we realize, and other times, less strong than we think--expanded guidance knows which is going on.

   While i don't have a lot of faith in self or in other humans necessarily, i do have a lot of faith and trust in expanded guidance, and i've found that discerning the difference between helpful and non helpful outside influences, while it can be tricky at times, if deeper intuition is attuned to,  it makes it much simpler.  Expanded guidance always comes with certain feelings, which are positive and expanding in essence, whereas hindering influences tend to feel off or negative in some way.   

   That which we are, emanates out from us, especially nonphyscially and to our nonphysical senses.  It's when we're overly attuned to our human side that we can get tricked or mislead, the more we attune to our Expanded self, spiritual core self side, the more we see through and into different beings and realities. 

  A combo of deep meditation combined with purposeful, directed prayer, helps us to attune more to that spiritual, expanded, wiser side of self.  And above all, putting effort into living a more loving, helpful, positive and service oriented life helps same.  The two in combo are very powerful, especially when practiced consistently.

<<But it would be wrong to read the handful of posts of late and conclude that exploration is evil, and should be avoided at all costs.  Is discernment necessary?  Yes.  Is it wise to believe everything on face value?  Of course not.  But the fear and fire and brimstone written about is not warranted.>>

"Doc", you're missing the point.  The point was that venturing into the unknown is not a harmless exercise.  To encourage people to do this, not knowing who they are and especially what their emotional makeup is, is irresponsible at best. It's not fear, it's just common sense.

You of all people should know the maxim "first, do no harm."

R

Roger,

I agree with Albert, and quite frankly I'm surprised at your position here.  I always go by the "do no harm."  And it is the fear based response that I see that does the most harm.  Why?  Because fear is the opposite of love.  The opposite of what the whole system is set up to experience.  And so for all I know about you, your response is surprising.

Consciousness is what it is, whether we are exploring in the incarnate world or the afterlife.  In some ways, it is actually more difficult to get into trouble with a directed meditation/projection over there than it is over here!  Why is that, you ask?  Quite simple, really.  In the earth plane, you have people of different degrees of consciousness all on a level playing field.  When you go out to any public place, there is a random likelihood of encountering a soul with evil intent clothed in a body just like one who is angelic.  In fact, many appear beautiful on the outside while harboring an ugliness and evil that is severe on the inside. 

In the mental planes and consciousness realms, it is much more difficult to hide who you really are.  Also, over there, as everywhere, the law of "like attracts like" applies.  Focus 27, "the park" and other places generally good people go when they pass on are not populated by people bent on evil.  In account after account of adepts, it is clear that their afterlife experience is, quite different. 

So I would argue that you are more likely to meet up with someone bent on hurting you in the physical world than there.  Also, the idea, that you can take an average person, and either sway them into evil action or have another horrible fate such as a possession befall them at the drop of a hat.  Of course, if someone is unbalanced, suffering from emotional problems, they could run into negative experiences since they are open to it.  I would never encourage anyone like that to explore.  But that is the exception, not the rule. 

So, yes, there are negatives out there, but in general, they are not able to populate planes where loving people exist.  To be there for any length of time would be like a poison to them.  Now if, while beginning to meditate someone gets a negative communication on one of the lowest planes, one can always break off the communication.  This happened to me once, during a hemi-sync meditation.  And although it was jarring and brief, it was a rare exception to many positive experiences.

Roger, you should also know that when you enter into sleep, your astral form roams freely.  Worse yet, you and I are less rational in the sleep state than when awake.  Yet I bet you got a great night's sleep last night, and for the most part, you wake up every morning feeling refreshed.  By your way of thinking, and Alan's we should never sleep again!  The whole way of thinking is skewed.

So would I caution an unstable person about exploration?  Of course.  I would probably tell that person to seek counseling and help just because they were unstable or disturbed anyway.  But I still contend that the "be afraid" response is and of itself unhealthy, and leads to closing yourself off to possibilities and a direct knowing that we are more than our egos and our physical bodies.

Matthew

Apparently i was gone so long from this site, that i've become a ghost, and only a few folks can now see/perceive my presence...

 

Hi Justin!   

I read this thread a couple days ago and I do agree with what you said, too.  I didn't intend to not acknowledge your post, I just forgot you had posted, too.  Hmmm... short term memory must not be what it use to be. 

rondele wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 3:05pm:

Its projection. You see all of Freud's defence mechanisms amongst them.

Those who campaign against fear are the real chickens.

1796:

Is being charming one of the traits your soul is working on this lifetime? If so, I guess the world will see you during your next incarnation. 


1796 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:03pm: