While I am positive an OOBE will never lead to happiness or satisfaction, it is not my right to tell people what they should do or what they should not do?

Both Mountaineering and OOBE can be dangerous to the person attempting them, however,

As an analogy, not everyone wants to climb Mount Everest and many who have attempted it have died on the way to the top, or even when they thought they were victorious on the way down!

Some rare great mountaineers have climbed this great mountain many times and got a great sense of achievement and even joy out of it.

1796 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:00am:

What are your thoughts about lucid dreaming in this regard?

Recently talked with a friend about dreams. She told me about her boyfriend and his dream about his father (after his passing). The father told him in the dream that he was paying attention to him and asked him to do good with his life. The boyfriend shortly after visited his mother, and without mentioning his dream, she told him about her dream about his father. The father stood outside the house of his wife, and she asked him to come inside. He told her he would not be around no more, but that he was paying attention to her and his son, and asked that she did good with her life.

My friend also told me that as a kid she had a dream about flying around a tall local building. She forgot about it until she as a grown up saw pictures from the top of that building being renovated, how strangely familiar the pictures were and remembered the dream flying around the building.

Another friend once told me about a dream she had about her teacher shortly after he passed on. They were standing by his grave, and he was calmly puzzled about how strange it was to see his own grave.

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as someone who is currently struggling with understanding reality and Christianity, I second the motion. Tell us, 1796.

Motion accepted, Gentlemen.

Alan is correct, of course, in saying that meditation is a form of prayer, certainly at its higher levels.

To relay all the details of the experience mentioned above would be too long a post, but I will outline some of what was covered without the specifics.

I was introduced to some beings who oversaw and oversee the design, introduction and development of         religions on Earth.

They showed me the different major religions of the planet throughout our known history, with the purpose and role of those religions, along with the characteristics and requirements of their respective races. The education covered  Earth-time from several thousand years ago up to the current time. The effects of the religions on their populations over time was also shown.

Covered also, was how the respective religions worked and effected upon man, spiritually and psychologically, individually and sociologically, and in relation to the overall purpose of the "Earth school" (for want of a better term). And, for where, and what are, the religions on their higher levels - what forces do they serve and represent.

The education naturally demonstrated the application, workings and effect of Christianity in comparison with the other religions.    

Readers can probably imagine the huge amount of information contained in such a picture. But -- and this is the point I wish to emphasise -- all that information, the immense grandness and wonder of the picture provided, was and is of little significance to me compared to the effect it had upon my heart.

When I came back I knew I was different, and would never be the same as before. My heart could now understand something, and was put on the spot, so to speak, to make its choice of which way to go. Towards the understanding that I had just acquired, or away from it. After careful thought, I chose towards it.

The effect on my heart after that was like having love wrung out of it - as if my heart were a wet flannel having the water wrung and twisted out of it. But the water, the love, is never ending. It keeps on coming. And my eyes wring as well. The sensation is one of extreme pleasure and pain together.  And with it comes better understanding of the subject to which it is directed. Initially the process and its sensation kept up for several weeks. Then subsided to a more manageable level. Since then I have learnt to control or manage it better. It is the sensation of Christ, the Spirit of Love for Earth, moving through the heart.

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Ambivalent enquired, "What are your thoughts about lucid dreaming in this regard?"

Dreams are, of course, of many sorts. Some are of little importance or meaning. Others carry much good use for us. They may clarify complexities that we are struggling with. They may be memories carried by the semi-conscious astral body returning from its externalisation during sleep and downloading the content of its semi conscious memories into the physical brain. They may me teachings and lessons from higher sources. They may be delusions.

All information, from whatever source, must be subject to our own best judgement. We have freewill, judgement is ours, as are our decisions which follow our judgement.      

1796 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 5:34am:


If I understood you correctly, you were shown the religions of the world and given a choice as to which one you would want to adhere to as true and loving.

And that was Christianity? If so perfect!!

Below is an excerpt from one of my similar experiences!

I continue to have vivid visions and dreams, I felt positive that  I was communicated and in dialogue some higher intelligence and absorbed huge amounts of unknown, mysteries, information and wisdom of the universe and creation.

A kind voice asked me if “I would like to cherish the moment” I cried out yes, yes, please, “but let me remember what I saw when I come out of the altered state of consciousness”

Sadly I only remember a little of what I saw and heard and have recorded it in this document. . I saw the future flashing before my eyes in rapid non-stop visions etc??

Alan

1796 wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:09am:


Although you were not asked to choose I can't imagine why you were shown all this and were not expected to make a choice, even if not asked to do so.
Alan McDougall