Well said to all. Am not a believer in being judged in the afterlife like I used to be.

The essence of us knows us the best and is our judge.

Happy New year

Justin, so what you are saying is basically that you think Jesus is awesome. How does one get to or closer to the level of their teacher?

Thanks for your concern, Justin. Perhaps you will agree that the behavior in the following article is obsessive.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3509176/Nailed-cross-Bloodied-Filipino-s...

I am perfectly okay with the truth I know.

   I should add that context is everything. Consider that Yeshua was speaking to a simple and in many ways ignorant people.  He had to keep things simple, dramatic, and archetypal to keep their attention and have them understand aspects of what he was saying. 

    If Yeshua came among us today, it's likely he would speak of things and himself in rather different terms.   

    As briefly touched upon, Cayce's guidance and work talks a lot about Yeshua, both in a NT way, and in a very metaphysical and far reaching way (even as to his other lives). 

   Like Albert's guidance confirmed for him, Cayce's guidance communicated that the NT is more or less true in the main about his life.  They did say on occasion that some little detail here or there was off or commonly misinterpreted, but confirmed time and time again that the main events as described by all the gospel writers happened. 

  Consistently though, they put the most focus on Yeshua's love, and his constant attitude of service and seeking to be led by forces greater than himself.  In some ways, you could say that daily, he experienced a crucifixion of self, in that he learned how to live for others and the greater good of the Whole, rather than living for his selfish, animal-body connected, personality self--which he still had some until the resurrection--the influence of the body-physical.  This part of us is very survival and self oriented. 

  Some, including this self, say that the physical is partially the result of a group of Disks using their freewill in limited and erring ways while in another's nonphysical creation, and they eventually changed the patterns enough, and became stuck in their own creations, beliefs, and perceptions to have temporarily manifested what we call and experience as the physical today. 

   But it's important to note that many non stuck, and very PUL attuned consciousnesses have been involved in the process too since day one, including the Co-Creator who created the Soul patterns that are within and behind aspects of the physical (especially as to nature and non man made structures). Btw, guess who that Co-Creator was/is? 

  Many of these helper types have come into this stuck belief system territory, or have sought to modify it in other ways.  It has eventually become a "learning"  and reawakening place where consequence through cause and effect can be experienced. 

  In a limited sense, you could say there was a fall of sorts, but it's all being retrieved on multiple levels.  Considering the gift of freewill, or more specifically, the ability and choice to choose that which is different than our Sourceness, it was possible and maybe even likely that a percentage of individualized consciousnesses would get stuck for a time. 

  In some ways, it's less of a big deal than fundamentalist Christians tend to make it.  In other ways it is a big deal, especially the more connected and consciously one you become with the Whole--because then you start to feel and experience other's suffering, and it's pretty affecting when you're wide open like that.  You naturally want to help the retrieval process in a way that respects freewill at the same time. 

   According to Cayce's guidance, and yes those interested should check this, Yeshua is connected to an individualized Disk or "Spirit" that is none other than the Co-Creator who was responsible for the original, nonphysical patterns of consciousness that the physical eventually became reflected or refracted off of.  They also say that he in some form or another has been involved with the retrieval process since he realized the problems and suffering going on.

   Originally, he would just manifest himself a body form and try to interact with those stuck here.  But, it was not as successful as he hoped.  So he decided to let himself get completely embroiled in the process, and started to become born of a woman and living various lives as fully human. 

  For a consciousness that was previously fully One with Source and PUL, and completely wide open, this was not an easy or light thing to get into. All this would be such a loud, cacophony of noise and pain to such a one, and there was the possibility of self getting overly stuck to from the influence of those around you.

   Interestingly, in Bob Monroe's first biography, he relays that he learned that there was an individualized consciousness which is responsible for creating the patterns behind/within the physical.  A "Creator" being if you will. 

  Also interestingly, it seems that eventually Monroe became quite interested in this Jesus character despite his earlier dislike of religion and religiousness. 
Bob seems to have left clues as to the identity of He/She, the most mature, evolved human living in his space-time reference that he asked about and was led to. 

There are some who say that there is no "mastermind" behind it all. 



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Frank Kepple writes;

from: http://astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

I agree with you, Rondele...........and yet we all will eventually end up in this place about which we know next to nothing.

What to do, what to do?

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  More obviously and materially speaking, after dedicating my life to try to live in the manner that he did, virtually everything in my life changed for the positive though i've still gone through testing and stressful periods (which i view as a necessity to strengthen and refine self towards that of pure Christ Consciousness aka full and constant attuenment to PUL). 

   Most noticeably, i went from a fairly long term and consistent deep, suicidal depressive state, to being one of the most consistently at peace and joyous people i know despite having a lack of material abundance by American standards and going through intense testing periods. 

  Not to say that since then i don't ever experience sadness, self pity, loneliness, anger, or imbalance, because i still sometimes do, but it's nothing like the constant deep selfish suffering and darkness i use to experience. The selfishly sourced suffering that i sometimes experience now tends to be much more milder and briefer.   

  I don't think this was the only factor, but it has and does play a major part.  Diet and other health lifestyle changes were a part, as well as attunment to and asking for help from expanded guidance in general.  As far as expanded guidance goes though, i've come to see Yeshua as the prime director or "Guide of guides" in this system of consciousness that centers around the physical Earth.  Sort of akin to Tom Campbell's concept of "Big Cheese" or Bruce Moen's concept of the Planning Intelligence, though the latter would also involve the entire part of his Disk that is connected to this system of consciousness (which is represented by our Solar system).

  Also, much like Albert has said, since becoming involved with Yeshua in a conscious way in this life, i've come to note that my heart has opened up a lot more, and gradually my awareness is opening up more though right now self is in a bit of a denser or down phase cycle (i find that a common pattern among humans, is going through cycles that akin to a sine wave, go up and down, with gradually higher peaks and gradually lower declines as a tendency).   

  But as my awareness has opened up, i've learned that my Disk has long been connected to his Disk in various ways and capacity.  I've learned that his original Disk form, co-created my disk as a retriever type, and that's been my overall pattern though we've strayed a bit here and there. 

  Others, like his Disk itself, were created directly by the Source or original, first Creator if you will.  Some of these went far, far astray, and that's part of why when the Christ Disk remerged with Source, it immediately began to create some Disks in it's likeness, with Love as a strong base, with the hopes that these would help in the retrieval process of these lost ones. 

    Yes, it does sound similar in some ways to some of what Bruce wrote about Curiosity's Father etc, though Bruce doesn't identify that first returned Disk. (Though his partner Denise did somewhat when she saw Christ being related to the Planning Intelligence).

  When things started to get really crazy and imbalanced on Earth way back when, the Christ Disk decided to recruit a bunch of helper type Disks in an effort and in a plan of major retrieval here.  Few of us were fully at "his" level, many of us would be considered, as compared to humans, more free and aware "ET's", as most of our projections and forms till then, were in other systems more expanded than this system.  But most of us were not "Co Creator" beings like him.

  He had other siblings or children more fully like himself help too, but in a more distant and detached way, rather than incarnating directly here, acting as nonphysical guides, etc.  These became more like the Elders on the Councils that over saw the formulation of new Earth life incarnations/plans, assignments of guides, etc. 

   While i'm not originally of or yet in the latter category just talked about, my Disk and this individualized self has long been in service to his Disk and humanity in various capacities. 

   That Disk, which for labeling purposes i call the Christ Disk, has helped my Disk andEx Member many times since we've existed.  While he hasn't ever, nor ever sought to do the work for me, he has provided a guiding light oft, a much needed and helpful light at times that allowed self to reorient self back to the path of direct growth.  He has provided the beaten path through the dense jungle that is easier to follow.

    I will always be eternally grateful to my little parent, our Elder sibling, even when i eventually become fully like him and become involved in the direct creation of new and unique systems and new/unique Disks to grow and mature in them. 

  No truer and more consistent friend have i, or any of us, ever had. 

   But i don't "worship" him, or even necessarily bow down to him, as he doesn't want either, and tells me (and all those that would listen) that what he is and has done, i and everyone else has the potential for also, and ultimately it's our destiny that we can only delay and distract ourselves from. 

  I'm so focused on him and his pattern, because i so desire to become fully like him, and what we focus most on, surely influences our habits, tendencies, and the direction of our path much more than that which we choose to, or unconsciously, ignore. Since i know that a non denominational, non limited focus on him can helps others like i've been helped, is why i recommend and try to bring conscious awareness to him at times.

  I do think that sometimes i probably over do it in communication with others, and may even at times push people away from him, in a much more mild, but still overly zealous fashion as some fundamentalists.  Perfect Yin-Yang balance is hard to achieve in general, and especially when working through a human body (and especially male human body with our stronger average tendencies towards aggressiveness and intellectual focus).  I would rather err slightly on the side of a bit over Yang though, than over Yin and passive.

  Part of the reason why Albert and i "vibe" with each other, is because we have a similar origin, history, and pattern in general and in relation to that Disk we both have come to love as friend/lover/parent/sibling all in one.

And i suspect very strongly that both our Disks had lifetimes/selves there with Yeshua when he was publicly teaching and saw first hand the majesty, beauty, and power of a full and completed graduate in human form. 

  Bob/Bruce's Disk, is a bit of a newer comer to the Christ Disk's party and plan, and perhaps because of that and less incarnations and experience with It, while there has been strong interest and there is strong respect for that one, there is not quite the intense, consistent focus.

We all are so much more influenced by our past, both cosmically/long term and in this shorter focus (especially childhood), than we tend to be consciously aware of. 

 

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