To All,

I've started this thread, and moved some TMI Lifeline posts regarding unfriendly aliens, to this new thread to give more focused discussion regarding such aliens a voice with less diversion of the original TMI Lifeline experience thread.

Bruce

I agree that the thread went off track a bit when politics was discussed a bit.

I feel fine about talking about unfriendly alien influences.  The subject seemed relevant, because some of the beings BillB met might've been such beings.

Bruce said, "Since some do have an interest in discussing their beliefs, perceptions and Interpreter Overlays regarding these aliens I would like to suggest you start a new thread about them and enjoy your discussion, theorizing and long dissertations on that new thread."

I respond, if one can meet someone like Robert Monroe in the afterlife without it being a matter of one projecting a belief, perception, interpreter overlay, then perhaps it is possible find out about unfriendly aliens, without such a thing taking place. (I'm not trying to be snide here, I'm just stating what I believe.)

I believe it is significant that Justin and I responded to what someone said when we started talking about unfriendly aliens, rather than us starting a thread without the subject coming up. Chances are that if the possibility didn't come up on this thread, we would not had brought up the subject.

Bruce didn't say anything about people making snide remarks, but I suppose he doesn't support them. I believe it is okay that Justin spoke up for himself when someone made snide remarks that seemed to be directed in his direction.

Perhaps if such remarks were addressed by the forum's monitor, someone like Justin wouldn't be put in the position where he needs to speak up for himself.

A late P.S., What are we supposed to do if someone writes about possible negative ETs? Play dumb, because other people haven't considered such matters?  If somebody started writing about eternal hellfire, should others who know better play dumb?

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I don't have a big problem with discussing alien influences, and have info from my experiences to share.  Just not on someone's thread sharing TMI Lifeline experiences.

Bruce

  Ok, i can understand moving the diverting posts somewhere else out of respect to the OP. 

   Bruce, i have heard you talk about E.T.'s and communications with same, but i haven't ever heard you talk about experiences with or guidance about E.T.'s that seek to keep humanity spiritually stuck. 

   If you have experiences along that line, it might be worthwhile to share.

Thank you Bruce.

Regarding how I receive information, some of what I'll say will be a repeat of what I've said elsewhere.

I receive a lot of the information that I receive while meditating. For example, while meditating I'll fill stuck with my attempt to expand my awareness, and then suddenly I'll find myself within a scene that symbolically tells me what's causing me to be limited.

For me, an elevator is a symbol for progressing upward or moving downwards.  If I suddenly find myself standing in front of an elevator (non-physically) and something blocks me from getting on the elevator, that something represents an aspect of my mind that is limiting me.

I've had all kinds of experiences in this way, some more involved than others. Partly because of the nature of what is revealed, I can tell that this information comes from guidance that is positive.  If there is a tendency to receive a lot of positive and helpful information, it is likely that these experiences are created by a positive being. It helps that I tend to be feeling love and peace when I have these experiences. It seems more likely that I would connect with positive beings at such a time, rather than negative beings.

During some of these experiences I have found myself in a scene where it was symbolically communicated that unfriendly aliens interact with this World and influence some people. It isn't just what I see, but the knowing that goes along with the scene.

The same being (s) that communicate to me this way sometimes simply show me a symbolic image that makes the point they are trying to make, such as, unfriendly aliens interact with this World.

On most occasions this information came without my asking for it, but on some occasions after I asked.

Sometimes the answers will come in a way that seems silly. For example, some people speak of getting on spaceships when aliens come because these aliens will be friendly. I wondered if such aliens should be trusted, and I found myself in space. I could see a starship.  I flew to the ship and entered it through its back entrance and hit my  head on the ceiling as I did so. I believe the head hitting meant that it would be a mistake to get on an alien ship.

Another example, I asked about a possible alien invasion, and I experienced myself on a spaceship with Deanna Troi from Star Trek. She said in a very concerned way that an invasion might take place. She asked if there is anybody who is concerned enough to do something about it.

The above example might sound silly to some, perhaps simply imagined. I believe it was a matter of guidance communicating to me in a way I would understand. I've had so many experiences like this (I also mean experiences that weren't about aliens), that I am now able to tell with a good level of certainty that something is being communicated to me by a well meaning intelligent being, rather than my imagination playing out.

Justin speaks as if an invasion might happen in the far future. Perhaps. I had a dream where I was on the planet Earth, I looked in the sky, and some spaceships were fighting each other.  My memory is a bit fuzzy about this, but I'm fairly certain that some of those ships were operated by humans.  It seemed curious that they had such technology.

If an invasion is something that might happen in the far future, why would people be warned about it now? I looked around, and Justin and I aren't the only people to receive this kind of information. Perhaps the key is what Deanna asked me. Is someone concerned enough to do something about it? If the World evolves in a positive way, perhaps a negative future can be avoided. I wonder if negative-minded beings would be attracted to a World that has a positive vibrational state and is filled with people who aren't easy to influence.

Perhaps it is understood that at this point in time people aren't going to be able to get a lot of other people to thoroughly consider the possibility that unfriendly aliens are messing with this World.  It is understood that such openness will require time.  Some people from this generation are getting the process of informing others started.  Just as there are things you couldn't talk about 30 years ago that you can talk about now, in the future there will be more room to talk about unfriendly alien influences than there is today.

If a person becomes aware of the fact that he is being influenced by an unfriendly presence, he would probably be more motivated to find a way to break free. When I say this, I don't just mean in a direct way. I also mean in an indirect way, such as when a person  gets involved with some of the negative things that exist in this World that have a root cause that relates to how some unfriendly beings, perhaps aliens, have influenced this World. Some of the experiences I've had indicated that unfriendly aliens have played a role in getting negative tendencies to exist in this World.

Albert

P.S. I just remembered that I've also received a message that made the point that positive beings are looking out for us. I don't remember the precise details at this time.

Justin:

Gosh I wonder if it was necessary to mention all of that.  I doubt that the Universe is waiting for Bruce to accept the negative ET thing. Whoever is interested now, that's what matters. As I said in my last post, sometimes things take time.

For the most part people don't know who the intuitives you speak of are, so they probably won't care about such confirmations.

All we can do is make an attempt and then be detached with the results.

To a certain extent I did similar to what you did. I made the point that the beings I received information from are trustworthy. People can't become certain about this just because I say so. I shared what I shared about my source of information so they might understand why I trust it. Whether they trust my discernment, that's another thing.

For the most part it is okay if they don't take my word for it.  What would be better, if they are interested, is that they try to find out about the unfriendly alien thing on their own. There are ways beyond what you and I have to say about the matter.

Some people might read what you said about the intuitives and wonder if you're boasting.  Every time I've spoken to you in person or on the phone you've seemed quite humble. You seemed very service oriented. You felt no need to try to push anything on me. Going by spirit messages I've received including dreams you're okay. However, I don't think we need to qualify ourselves in such a way. Again, people don't need to take our word for it. Their own interest in this matter will enable them to find out what they need to know.

Justin:

I understand why you think it would be good if Bruce looked into this. A lot of people who come to this forum respect him and accept what he says before they accept what you or I say.

I don't have the ability to look out to the universe, see every detail, and determine whether Bruce needs to become interested in finding out about unfriendly aliens, but my guess is that he doesn't.

Sometimes my guidance encourages me to figure certain things out, but we have an agreement in place, and I accept their occasional nudging.

I don't know if you and Bruce have an agreement in place, probably not  a conscious agreement. I'm going to get newagey here, perhaps at Soul level you have some agreements. I know through our conversations with each other that you have a lot of respect for Bruce.  You said that in private to me, I don't believe you mind me sharing it.  Heck, I don't think you would hope that Bruce would look into the negative ET thing if you didn't respect him. Why would you be concerned about somebody you don't respect doing such a thing?

Overall, perhaps I'm wrong, I believe Bruce is a mature Soul and he can decide for himself whether or not he should become interested in the existence of unfriendly ETs.

1796:

It seems as if you are poking fun just for the fun of it. Isn't that the sort of thing bullies do? Do you believe that there might be a much better way for you to find fullfillment? If you could see into Justin's heart, you probably wouldn't feel so good about poking fun. Even if you believe he is mentally disturbed (he isn't), do you believe it is good to poke fun at mentally disturbed people? Is this what loving your neighbor as yourself is all about?

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