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That is an interesting story.  Last Winter, while doing QiGong in the forest (I do an exercise I call mixing Heaven and Earth - mixing Qi for the world around me)  I encountered an eye looking at me, which has happened many many times.  This time, I reached out to the eye and found I was touching the scaly neck of a .... dragon!.  There have been a number of experiences with this being, but some remind me of the story you quote.

Once this being took me to some high rock ledge somewhere overlooking a large valley, someplace "like" the Hudson River valley.  Here it explained large scales of time.  Also was explained that he was not a literal dragon, but that the image of a dragon best describes its nature.  When I encounter him, and a couple others of his species, I typically apprehend them as dragons.

In a later experience when returning to focus 12, the dragon and I were together and a very large angel flew up behind us, I guessed as some protecting act - startling.  Then both the angel and the dragon followed me back from f12 to my C1 state - most surprising.  Shortly after that, I realized there was some friction between the beings from way way back (part of the Western mythological notions which I believe are not completely correct in Man's literature, but I suspect there was some serious conflict at a time.). 

I came to understand that there were competing interests in the development of man which the above beings have had conflicts over.  Somehow I saw the differing ideas as complementary, but opposed.  I also understood that somehow these approaches ultimately contribute together concerning man and I've come to accept both classes of beings, the dragons and angelic realm as friends.  I should add that I understand the dragon more in a Chinese sense than a Western one.  Also he seems to act more along the line of Rudolph Steiner's notion; this dragon seems involve in Earth processes, similar to Yang rising after Winter in the Chinese sense. I have had both this Dragon & angels protect me and so I also feel a deep affection to both.  "Personally" I believe there are "truths" in various literature that pertain to mythological beings, but the whole story may not be correct or complete.  It is very difficult to reconcile one's experiences with those of others or in literature.

As a result of this and other encounters, I "believe" that mankind has the potential to be a bridge between competing purposes in our region, that somehow mankind - or the new mankind - is destined to bring reconciliation, harmony, and restoration in the future; but it is largely the new mankind.

I suppose this is a good example of the difficulty in coming to grips with these experiences; trying to identify the true and complete nature of the experiences in the light of other's experiences and various writings in man's literature.

Hard to know what the "truth" ... "is".

Recoverer:... Re - "thank you for sharing your experiences, they are interesting to read. Smiley"

It's kind of a mind blower isn't it.

BillB wrote on Jun 14^th, 2015 at 10:42am:


  I prefer less to have experience with certain beings or groups, then to connect to expanded guidance and receive info ABOUT these beings or groups if i have some curiosity about same. 

   I feel it's a way to cut through any b.s., glamour, or the like.

   My spouse and i have received a number of messages (dreams, meditational, and synchronicities with others) confirming that there is such a thing as Reptilian E.T.'s that are involved with, and try to interfere with the spiritual progression of this world. 

   For awhile now, i've connected these with the serpents/snakes and dragons that the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls talk about. 

    I'm not so kind or tolerant in interpretation of their motives and reasons for interaction. Frankly, i think the Asians are very off about their nature, if they are referring to these beings.  And even the Asian tales/legends caution that they can be very capricious, hard, and dangerous beings if humans offend or irk them.  There is a subservience flavor of the Asian culture to them, which i disagree with. 

A long time ago, the Reptilians (or a segment of their population) chose to be cut off from Source and Love, and they seek to re-make us in their image. 

   Misery likes company, and ego by nature is very control oriented.  Considering the consistent nature of this world or rather of humanity, seems to me, that humans have more listened to and been influenced by them as a trend, than to regular guidance and expanded guidance. Or at least those whom become the material movers and shakers of the world.

   I think they occasionally incarnate here in human form too.  I think most psychopathic humans, are coming direct from that experience or have it strong in their data bank somewhere. 

But, i am open minded to there being such a thing as "reformed Reptilians" in that form, as well as those who decided to become involved in the human pattern.  I work with a lady, whom has a cold and controlling vibe, seems to like power and seems a bit insecure and lacking in love, but seems to strive to be and do good. Almost seems like a war takes place in her at times.  I had been wondering about her and the contradictory feelings i would get about her.  I heard quite clearly at one point, "reformed Reptilian".  So apparently her dives as a human, had eventually changed her for the better, and she is now progressing spiritually, if still struggling some with some of the less desirable subconscious traits of her former selves and kin. 

   So, maybe there are "positive dragons" out there.  I don't know.  Maybe some come from a time, before they went off the evolutionary path of spiritually growing.

   However, despite the fact that i use to be very skeptical of the Reptilian thing because of folks like Icke, i'm now pretty certain that they exist, and most of the ones that interact with us, do not have our best intentions in mind. 

   Besides wanting to remake us in their image, i think they also covet the Earth itself.

   They are very active in deception and manipulation, especially of belief systems.  They've learned that the best way to trick and limit humans, is to inject belief systems with some spiritual truth, but then to subtly, but powerfully twist truth to that which is limiting in nature and effect.  I've felt their influence in a number of very popular "spiritual" sources. 

   Some say that they are very involved with aspects of the U.S. government and some other power structures.  As i haven't received much direct guidance about that aspect, i can't say for certain.  But, i would not be surprised if they were involved with communication with aspects of what some call the shadow government aka special interest groups and individuals who are very ego based and have a lot of say and influence in what does or doesn't happen in this world because of their immense wealth and connections.

   I suspect that some humans are VERY influenced by, and very energetically connected to them. 

   Our guidance, especially the guidance that my spouse has received, confirms Rosalind A. McKnight's guidance info (from her book, Cosmic Journey's) that we will become involved in a war with a negative E.T. race in the somewhat further future.  Rosie's guidance doesn't refer to them as "Reptilians", they don't say anything about what they look like or where they come from, but going by the messages that we have received over the years, it is highly, highly probable that it's this specific group.

   They don't directly attack us now, because we are protected by the positive E.T. groups.  Otherwise, it would be a massacre plain and simple.  We don't yet have the resources or development to deal with them in such a way.

   I think part of the reason why i've become very aware of this issue, is because i spent a lot of time right before this life, among some of the expanded E.T. groups and in other systems. I suspect that i learned quite a bit about them pre this life. 

  I don't think humanity will be "bridging" anything with this group, but we will finally, FINALLY, be kicking them completely out of this system and not allow ourselves to be influenced by them anymore.

   However, there is and has been bridging with another group, the one commonly referred to as the Grays. The Grays have some self serving motivations for being involved with us too, but they aren't negative to the degree as the former group.  They lack certain things that we have, that they need to spiritually progress, and have clumsily, in their severe lack of emotional attunement or understanding of human needs and nature, been trying to reintegrate these from their interactions with us.  Both through our genetics and through interactions with us.

   If Bruce Moen's experiences were with the Grays, or rather Gray-Human hybrids, then apparently they have finally got it right, and have rapidly expanded spiritually. If this is the case, then i'm very happy for them and for the bridging that went on. 

  It's been a very long time for them being in that semi stuck state, where they could see unification with Source in the distance, but just couldn't get there because of certain very limiting choices they made in the past.

   It would require a small book to outline all my spouse's and mine combined experiences on the topic and in the sense of explaining how and why it all works. And especially so in why we have come to trust our relationship with guidance. 

  I don't expect anyone to take my word for things.  Unlike Bruce Moen here, i'm not considered an authority, i'm just some dude writing one's perceptions on a forum.

   But here are some techniques i recommend for others to find out for themselves, these are what have worked best and most effectively for me after trying various different things.  Before going into meditating, say a prayer/affirmation like, "I deeply desire and ask for the holistic help, guidance, and wisdom of only the most spiritually expanded, constructive-creative, helpful, loving, and aware sources."

  I then often do some "toning".  Sometimes it's intuitional, and sometimes i do Ahh RRRR EEEEE Ohhhh Uuu MMMM, going from a low pitch at the Ahh, to increasingly higher pitch.

   Then i often practice Bruce's remembering the feeling of love technique.  Sometimes i just phase into the awareness and feeling of gratitude for help received, and for my appreciation to Source for giving me and all of us the opportunity to be individuals and yet One with the Whole.

  Then i ask my questions, get deep, still and listen.  I do not preconceive how the answers will come.  Sometimes they come right then, sometimes later.  Sometimes i "hear" something.  More rarely i get visuals, sometimes it's more of an out of blue holistic impression than anything.  Sometimes i'll have a dream about it later on.  Sometimes i'll have a synchronicity with another person.  For example, i've had a number of synchronicities with Albert (aka Recoverer) from this site.   

   It is important to connect to expanded guidance, which for me is Source and those fully at One with Source (Yeshua and the other Co-Creator Beings) and to a lesser extent my own Expanded self, to help raise one's own frequency or consciousness state.  I prefer to bypass regular ole "guides", but occasionally the most expanded do involve ("send" so to speak) more regular guides in the process as messengers.

  Perceiving on one's own is a tricky state of affairs, and can involve many illusions, distorted belief systems, and when dealing with certain E.T. groups--them deliberately projecting info that is distorted and/or misleading. Some E.T. groups are masters at manipulating human perception. It's as easy and natural as breathing to them.

  The above combo, is along with trying to live a Yeshua like life, a way out of the limited and distorted perceptual bag that we all humans experience to some degree.  If one stays at one's own levels, it's hard to to see out of the bag of one's current belief systems.  For, percepetion follows beingness.

  When they can raise you up temporarily, you can see much further and more clearly, but you have to help them to some extent, which is why the certain methods to help boost and expand ones consciousness and thus perceptual capacity. 

  A lot of it is about intent and motivation at it's core.  I love the Whole, desire to be of positive service to the Whole, and i rarely ask things out of just curiosity or ego.

One of my other techniques combined with the above, is this, i ask, "please bring to my conscious awareness that which would be most spiritually helpful for me and/or the Whole to become aware of now."

  I'll give you a brief example of info received during this state, after this specific question.  I received very out of the blue info about Tom Campbell, saying something like, he works for Christ, but is unaware/naive of some negative forces.  I at first thought it was someone else (translaed the name wrong), but then i received a clear visual of a guy with white hair and beard when i first mis-perceived the name. I realized it was T.C. because of the visual (i also just strongly KNEW that this person was connected to The Monroe Institute, Bob Monroe, etc).

   I didn't know much about, nor gave very little thought to T.C. at this point.  But this piqued my curiosity, so i joined his forum.  I had a lot of problems with the main moderator there in charge (and noticed he tended to bully others as well at times).  I would occasionally impersonally express a different opinion or perception than Tom's or the group think there, and the moderator would constantly threaten me, tell me if i didn't tow the line he would boot me, etc  It became apparently quite personal for him.  He often did not "debate", but rather got into name calling and personal degradation of my supposed character.

  During this time, a spiritual friend of mine, whom didn't know i had joined T.C.'s forum, during meditation they received a message for me. Went something like, "Tell Justin, warn T.C." 

   My friend also received a visual message about a guru he use to know, whose brother was very involved with the guru group, and had influence with the group through his guru brother. 

   My wife, then also had a dream related to all this, about T.C. and his main moderator and this forum power struggle.  Her dream symbolism did not portray the old man (the moderator, whom is rather old) in a very flattering way.  The dream indicated he was trying to hoard resources and was being very controlling and having a detrimental effect on the group.  She saw T.C. as more innocent, and not fully aware of this person's issues, partly because there was a personal, affection bond between them.  My wife was not aware of all this prior to her dream.

   When, my confrontations with this person crescendo'ed with him comparing me to Charles Manson, and permanently booting me off that forum. I finally contacted Tom Campbell and asked him did he really want someone in charge of his group whom behaved like this and went to such extremes because others had different opinions and perceptions?

  I didn't receive an answer from T.C., but later on i noticed that there were some changes made to the forum.  There were now a group of different moderators, rather than just the one guy. I can't say for sure if this was due to our interaction, but as this guy had been the only moderator for years prior, it's likely.

  So, this is example of receiving information, and also having synchronicity confirming same.   

   I realize this is very different than your classic OBE method of receiving info. I realize that you view your way as superior, and yourself as superior.  All i will say is that i don't agree.  Having classic OBE's is no way to guarantee accurate and holistically helpful info in and of itself. Intent, belief systems, practiced discrimination, livingness, etc all have to be factored in.

  In fact, if Rosalind McKnight's guide is to believed, then it can be considered a more limited way as a trend.  I knew Rosie, and i know she was connected to expanded guidance, very much a service, old soul. She just radiated a lot of palpable light, love, awareness, and positivity.  Also, Bob Monroe was rather fond of and impressed with Ah So, and frequently had the experience of Rosie's guides answering questions he just started for formulate and hadn't yet asked, and he was often impressed with the depth and holism of info received.  He and Rosie were occasionally chided on some things, such as their deplorable diets, but the reason why Bob labeled him as "Ah So" was for two reasons.  He gave info and advice that often was very enlightening, so the "ah so i see what you mean" effect and because he had a slight Asian accent when speaking through Rosie. 

  I do not always get things correct, and i occasionally misinterpret info i do get.  Sometimes, and more often, when i'm just using my intuition and not going the process of the above of balancing and boosting my energy, etc, etc i will mis-perceive more often.

  Just as was the case with the G2 cloud Galactic Core event.  I didn't receive any clear messages from guidance regarding that specific event, but allowed my "interpreter" left brain side to become overly involved, and so ended up being quite off about the whole thing.  I do know that massive changes will happen in my lifetime (because i have received some info about from expanded guidance under the more ideal conditions), but i've come to think that perhaps neither myself nor humanity in general is meant to know more exact times on the issue.  Usually when i connect to expanded guidance and ask about it, i receive only general info. 

  For example, i had a snippet of a dream recently where i observed what appeared to be ash falling during a very warm season (like very late spring, summer, or very early fall).  For me to see ash where i live, either means a nuclear event or major, super volcano type eruption.  I haven't sought more info on it, because i've decided to be more detached to the whole issue. 

 



   

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  I've thought a lot about this, and why more people don't receive info (or talk) about them.

  I think you have to understand human psychology well to get to the core of this. 

  There are few topics that can engender as much fear in a human as that of a technologically superior, psychically gifted, and very intelligent E.T. race that has ill intentions towards us. 

   It is the stuff of nightmares for most if people considered it truly real. People often don't deal with every day reality things that make them uncomfortable, let alone stuff like this.  Read about Carl Jung's concept of the shadow, and how people tend to repress things that are uncomfortable, unpleasant about themselves or life and shove deep down into their unconscious shadow.

   My sense is that partly the reason why Albert and i have received info about this topic, is because we both have been on a spiritual path of trying to grow in love for awhile, and have dealt with a lot of our fear.  We were also open minded enough to ask questions or just listen.  Also, we can handle the backlash of when people get upset about us talking about it or make fun of us and make it about the messenger instead of the message.  We can remain impersonal about it.

  I can't speak for Albert, but i didn't receive any info about this early on.  It probably would have been too much to handle if guidance had shared info about it earlier on.  I had been involved with meditating and a conscious spiritual path for some almost 20 years before i received any messages about negative E.T.'s

   Fellow humans sharing information through words, text, etc, does not have the same impact as having guidance experiences, hence i think it's ok to put the info out there.

  I think there is a definite reason why, say for example, that Rosalind A. McKnight and her source told her and Bob Monroe about a negative E.T. group that will eventually will full out directly attack and war with us. 

  If you read her book, Cosmic Journey's, and if you have any deeper sensitivity or intuition, you will see that Rosie's guidance was very aware and wise in many ways. They would do a lot of cleansing and balancing work with Rosie before they even went into specific information or experiences.  Much of the Gateway Program techniques is based directly on the techniques that they taught Rosie and Bob, aside from the specific Hemi-Sync stuff.  The info just emanates positivity, wisdom, integrity, balance, and Love. 

At the end of the day, most people just don't want to believe in things like this, because it makes them deeply uncomfortable on a deep, unconscious level.

   That's ok, and i don't get upset at people for reacting to that or to those who do get info about it.  It's understandable.  It is very uncomfortable/unsettling if true. Similar with the earth changes/civilization collapse type info.  And yet, many NDE's and many other reputable spiritual sources talk about such info. 

 

   



    

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   A lot of what determines degree of spiritual error for an individual soul, is what degree of awareness about the nature of reality they have, their present ideals, level of conscience and degree of spiritual development at the time of outer actions. 

   For some, killing a negative E.T. purely in the defense of others and self, would not be counted so much as spiritual error within their Soul or by the Elders. 

   For some whom are very aware of the nature of reality, and that physical death is not a big deal, perhaps contrarily, would prefer not to kill such a being even in defense, knowing for certain that their soul will survive and they will be ok even if they themselves were killed.

  I suppose this could even relate even to the Yin or Yang propensity within a Soul. A Soul more polarized to the Yin, would prefer to hide rather than fight, and a Soul more polarized to the Yang would probably prefer to fight or defend rather than hide. Yin or Yang, in and of itself doesn't indicate degree of spiritual development. Though a greater balance and integration of both does.

   While it's possible that this could happen in the near future, the dreams that Becky had, and the info that came through Rosalind indicate the full out war wouldn't happen for awhile. In Becky's dreams, she was in a different, future body/self and our human technology was very different (more advanced).

   But, i don't know to what extent that the positive E.T.'s can keep the negative E.T.'s in check.  It could be that some attacks could happen pre that time, attacks that they slip in through the cracks so to speak. 

Positive E.T.s are not omnipotent nor omniscient, though they have a very expanded awareness compared to humans, very advanced technology, and have been tracking this group(s) for a long time.

  So, it is possible that some things could happen before the main events.

   I do not think the positive ET's would allow a full on attack before we were ready to effectively protect ourselves. It would be near omnicide of humanity. It would be hard for most to effectively hide.  Such people would have to be fairly evolved and in control of their energies, because not only do these E.T.'s have advanced technology, they also have developed psychic abilities.

  It should be noted that one can fight back without completely killing as well.