After reading many NDE accounts lately, I have become aware of another feature that is very common.  The patient claims to "download" knowledge that answers every conceivable question about the mystery of life, God, and unfair suffering. Then they either fail to share that knowledge or admit that their memory did not preserve this knowledge when they returned to normal consciousness.  What should we make of this frequent amnesia?

Are we simply not meant to know the ultimate answers to life's most pressing philosophical and theological questions?
If so, what implications does that have for our quest for ultimate truth and reality?  Or were the answers suppressed because they only make sense in a timeless realm with more dimensions than our universe?  The NDErs do recall something--that they received these ultimate  answers.  Should we dismiss their claims as a confusion created by their great peace experienced in their confrontation with the Being of Light?  Might these suppressed memories be retrieved through hypnotic regression?  Any thoughts?

  Well said Albert, agreed on all points. 

To fully understand/perceive it all, i think you would have to completely transcend the physical form of being connected to a human.  You can describe this in different ways. 

Some might say, raise/speed up the vibration of the flesh to that of pure Light (an extremely fast frequency).

  Some might say, insert a different personal data stream into the Earthly data stream. 

  Some might say to experience the Resurrection like  Yeshua did.  For no doubt, even for him, it's likely that there was a difference in perception/awareness before and after his Resurrection process. 

   If we are still limited by the limitations and rule sets, of this particular dimension/data stream, it's unlikely we could know all of it while maintaining a connection to and working through a human body. 

  The rule set here says that the human body has to evolve over time, according to different pressures and influences holistically.  Gradual consciousness change influencing the physical, environmental/physical pressures and influences, E.T.'s changing aspects of DNA/genetics. 

From the rule sets involved here, it will take awhile for humanity and it's vehicle to update enough to be able to handle and reflect more purely much more of this info and radiation consciously and clearly.   

   Even just body wise, not everyone is on the same page. Some have bodies that are more along that evolutionary process, bodies that were purposely fit for them being more expanded consciousnesses.  Particularly we see this with E.T. history and influence with humanity. 

   Positive, spiritual based E.T.'s are allowed to work with humanity in a hidden way, and take individuals on board and make subtle changes so that over generations, they can create bodies more fit to and reflective of expanded consciousness.  The E.T.'s have to work within both spiritual and physical rule sets to accomplish these changes constructively. 

   Sometimes they have done this, to create more efficient vehicles for some of their own to come into to become human to help the process of spiritual evolution directly from the inside. 

  It's all one big retrieval process on many, many levels simultaneously.  And even our fleshly bodies are involved to some extent. 

  Yeshua had a head start over many.  The Essene's spent many generations purposely and consciously evolving their vehicles so that they could create a proper channel and vehicle for him to enter, and meanwhile positive E.T.s were working with them as well. 

Then, his own Spirit/Expanded Self/Disk, directly intervened and sparked life within his Mother's womb because her vehicle's vibrations were raised enough to allow same.   His physical vehicle from the get go was more advanced and evolved, and able to handle greater and more pure Light. 

  The fact that he constantly used the vehicle well, and constantly made positive, loving, Whole centered choices and did not live for his selfish self, further raised the vibrations of the body ever more. 

    I think in about a thousand years or so, most of the bodies around will catch up to near his body's state when he was born and many expanded consciousnesses will be incarnating here to continually improve things, till the point that humanity is fully redeemed and can be let go of. 

  We have healed and retrieved you humanity, and in doing so, we have transcended you, to become what we were meant to become, fully conscious Co-Creators with the Whole and with Source and it's oldest Retrieving child whom has been a full adult for many eons now.

Gman wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 10:26pm:


It seems that for some strange reason my link does not work? So go to www.near-death.com and search for Howard Pittman, or google up Howard Pittman...Christian Zealots rearing their power on the Internet!!! Gman

recoverer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 1:30pm:


Thanks Recoverer..Sorry for the delay in replying. George Gman

Berserk2,

For me difficulty remembering things that occur during and NDE comes under the concept that, memory of an event is stored within the area of consciousness in which the event occurred.  In my workshops I teach that to remember an event only requires that we shift our focus of attention back to the area of consciousness where the event occurred.  In some cases, like NDEs; the area of consciousness is not a familiar one which can make the shift somewhat difficult.

There of lots of mundane example of this concept in our everyday life.  Remembering feelings we experience during the experience can make that shift easier.

Bruce

  The essential concept that Bruce talked about, i think is true, but i'm not sure it's just about only intention and focus.  Intention and focus are an important, core part of it for sure, but there seem to be other important and equally influencing variables. 

   Perception seems to generally follow beingness, and while remembering the feelings associated with an experience is a boost and can help align the beingness perception sides together, there may be other things that need to happen first. 

   For example, in a lot of NDE's, it seems like some folks get to experience some very expanded areas of consciousness, but in a lot of these cases it seems they are getting a lot of help/boosting from others more expanded than themselves to more fully perceive/be there temporarily, and this is when not very connected or not connected to a body, which makes perceiving/experiencing these very expanded states easier. 

  Being more directly or strongly connected to a human body and this dimension has a very innately grounding/narrowing influence. 

  I don't think most humans who don't have a NDE will experience/perceive as vividly those very expanded states as those who became very disconnected from their bodies temporarily. 

  The few who do without an NDE are likely very (unusually) expanded, mature consciousnesses who have aligned their physical body energy system strongly to their consciousness. 

   In my so far limited experience with this, this is a very holistic process that involves certain choices and changes on various levels physically, mentally, and spiritually.  Diet/health lifestyle, choosing to meditate and pray, choosing to open to Love, being positive and helpful, being of positive service, etc, etc.   I have a hard time remembering a lot of detail or perceiving vividly very expanded consciousness areas.  Yes, i get the general feelings, but not a lot of the specific info/data (most of the time). 

    Neither i, or rather my body energy system, is attuned, balanced, or uplifted enough.   My sense is that my lack of meditation is one of the bigger factors in my inability to more fully perceive those expanded consciousness areas. The other is a lack of pure receptivity to and livingness of PUL.

   At the same time, i'm not sure i really want to be that open to begin with, not with the way the world is now.  I was really open when much younger, and it was difficult to say the least. 

   Also, there is the factor that sometimes we aren't ready to consciously perceive (while more directly connected to a body) certain info for various reasons relating to our (or even others) growth process. 

Doc:

Related to what you wrote, if another person in this World wanted to know what your whole life is about, no matter how many words you share it might be difficult for a person to get a full appreciation of what your life has been and is about.

In spirit communication it can all be understood simutaneously. Such knowledge could be hard to recall while physical. However, at some level the knowledge would be inside. It would be a matter of not letting misleading filters get in the way of retrieving that information.

Did I say "retrieving" in a different context than is the norm here? 

Doc:

What you just wrote reminds me of what Nanci Dannision was told as her NDE came to an end. "Don't try to remember everything, you won't be able to, just remember the love." (I paraphased what she was told.)

Non-duality is a form of spirituality that gets too locked up in logic eventhough it claims to be experiential. It appeals to intellectual people. It is better that they listen to their heart more and find out about some of the celestial plane factors you just wrote of.