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Not sure what I think of this wrt affirmations. Maybe there are better or worse ways to use affirmations. Maybe no one ever showed your friend the better ways.

Like for instance if someone knew how to use EFT techniques, what would that change wrt how well the affirmations work? I'm not saying there is a quick way to develop Christ Conciousness or spiritual maturity, maybe the things that make affirmations work better are on the path to CC.

EFT works to affect my body in a positive way when it responds with anxiety. I won't advocate it for all the uses that have come into play with EFT, but if your friend had known EFT, it might have helped soothe her.

For anyone not familiar with the technique, here is a basic form of it. It has been picked up and used for so many things, and if someone is interested in exploring that, go for it but I won't advocate or criticize all that. But anyone can pick up the basic technique for free. Here is one place:

http://www.eft-alive.com/how-to-do-EFT.html


related link

http://www.eft-alive.com/eft-therapy.html

people report interesting results using this...not achieving CC overnight!....but maybe some smaller steps are made.

Maybe his videos still work...I'm in the library and alot of things are not working here, but I'll give the link anyway

http://www.eft-alive.com/eft-videos.html

I feel bad for your friend that her affirmations did not work then.

I was reading this interview by Bob Olson and I thought it addressed this issue of why affirmations might not work. Danielle MacKinnon works out of a concept of soul contracts but it is explained in the talk. This is a transcript of a video; sometimes I like the leisure of reading the material.

The idea is that affirmations won't work if they contradict a belief held at a deeper level.

So maybe if an affirmation doesn't work it isn't a matter of trying harder but of going deeper to find out what blocks it. In Danielle's system, this is called a seed thought.

The illness thing complicates it more but it seems that on some level it should work the same way.

http://www.afterlifetv.com/2014/01/28/creating-soul-level-changes-lasting-growth...

the material in Selig's work is more concerned with getting right to some seed concepts, to use Danielle's terminology. It works on a deeper level than this.

I think there may be various different reasons of why affirmations may or may not work.  For example, with illness, the Disk/Light Being level of that self, may want to work on certain emotional lessons or growth, want to balance karma, and/or affect others in a certain way for their own lessons or karma.  (with my Mom, it seemed to be all of the above).

   If they are not ready to be healed--meaning that process is still going on, then they won't be.  In cases like that, it's not just simply about beliefs, but being level goals.

   But yes, beliefs of the human can also be a factor and can act as a block.  But it's not always just about beliefs in that sense.  Also, to really change deep beliefs, to some extent often times requires change at a being level, which often requires a blend or balance of will, effort, focus (yang) and surrender/letting go/seeking to be led, etc (yin).   One without the other, is incomplete and not as effective. 

  Just as the right brain is not much effective without the left brain and vice versa.  A balance, an integration, a synthesis is usually best and most effective.  Again, those who tend to the primarily Yin, tend to stress the Yin side of the equation, those who tend to the primarily Yang tend to stress the Yang side of the equation, and those who tend to the more merged/integrated/balanced between the two within tend to stress that.  Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like. 

   

  Ok, realized my earlier post is very theoretical in nature.  Thought a more concrete example would illustrate this better.  Say a person has certain limiting beliefs about food and diet.  They eat what they want according to taste, emotions, etc, not caring about the body's health because they think it doesn't really matter too much what goes into the body, they are only going to be around for so long, why not enjoy oneself, etc.

    Releasing or changing these old, limiting beliefs may happen in different ways.  They may be open enough to guidance and get nudged from same to make changes to the diet, or they have some health problems which makes the consequences of not paying attention to same stand out more as wisdom or practical than the old beliefs and habits.  They may also realize that eating healthier allows their Consciousness to more clearly shine through the body and work with same more strongly, and clears the perceptions.

  So, they release the old beliefs, replace them with new, and say to self, "i'm gonna change, i'm going to eat better. It's important for reasons i haven't seen previously but see now"  And they endeavor to do same. 

  That releasing the old beliefs and being open to a different perception is more the "Yin" side of the process.  You could call it a type of surrendering..

  Yet, we find the body is a being and level unto itself, and that of habits, emotions, attachments.  Self may have new beliefs, but the body doesn't always follow exactly suit right away.  It doesn't tend to change as fast as the mind and Consciousness parts of self--it's inherently more "slow moving" in a sense. 

  So, self may need to put definite effort, will, and focus in this endeavor.  It's not enough to have the different belief and perception, but one must apply self and create new habits.  For many, this can take some definite time and practice and effort. 

  We may be tempted again and again to the old habits of the body even though the basic, limiting belief towards food has changed and we don't want to be in that old pattern anymore.  Self will have to watch/observe itself (yin) being tempted, and consciously correct or direct differently via ones will and thought process (yang) "yes, i really do want to change so i will eat better!"

    From this example, we can see how much both the Yin and Yang aspects of consciousness is involved in this process. 

It would be nice to find a way to talk about this material without having to worry about whether it is channeled or not; i.e. take the material on its own merit rather than how it was assembled. As I read I often think "oh that is something I thought about before, or that is something I heard somewhere els" but here it is all assembled and that gives it more meaning, different meaning... Sometimes I have thought, "oh I knew that why did I not try harder to live it?"

The underlying message is (as always) that each of us is part of "god" and therefore Divine  (not saintly...but made of divine stuff. there is a difference!) But culture has taught us to think otherwise. So the point of this is to get us to realize our divine nature and increase what they call our frequency and thereby move closer to realization of Christ Conciousness. "Christ Conciousness" is meant to be a higher frequency level, and does not necessarily invoke Christianity and in fact there are other paths to this goal.

The comparisons and comments at the Nanci Dennison thread are very relevant as there is similar info coming from different sources. The issue is which souce affects me how and hwo can I implement this material. It is so vague to say "love is all that matters" (..reminds me of a line fromt eh Beatles...) but when I am in what is for me a negative situation that doesn't always give me the best thing to do... it doesn't explain what love is and how I balance self-love with loving others.. Or maybe those are meaningless terms. The Selig work imples love is a frequency, not an emotion.  All of this stuff is about love and I'm not sure what love (PUL or otherwise) is although I have experienced profound peace and I think that might be a form of love. But I don't know how to get (back) to that place. Especially when I am frustrated about something I have to do to survive the culture (taxes or otherwise).

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1397324690/0#0

I don't have a modify button...

so you can send this frequency, radiating from the heart, towards someone you may not particularly like emotionally.

If I think of love as an emotion I find it more difficult to consider sending love to someone I dislike.  Or if I try, it warps the good intentions. or it sort of ...damages.. me because I think I SHOULD send love to my enemies so I supress either how I really feel about them, or I open myself to some kind of harm from them. This sounds odd but I am trying to generalize here.