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A dream or vision of the night for you to read!
Feb 16th, 2014 at 4:53pm
 
Hi People,

carl mentioned my bipolar illness and it is this so called disability that has enabled me to see further into the spiritual and mysterious realms that most people. Unfortunately I can see into both dark and light realms, in many primitive societies the holy man, would be diagnosed by western medical science, as a szchophrenic or psychotic manic, just like me, because we see, hear, know things most "normal" people, with respect, are not aware of or only experience a few time during their life span on earth

This is a sort of composite of visions and dreams I have put  over the years, with some poetic license and a large chunk of fertile imagination, I must add.

The Journey of the night

I have gone to many places, walked on great grass prairies, and the steppes of high planes, flew up and down green wooded mountains of wonder, stood at the sides of the north at a great and infinite Sea, as the everlasting winds of change blew through my mysterious body electric. Below I saw the earth in its all its beauty and rose up so high that the blue became black.  I walked on a dark and grey monochrome moon, climbed the rim of a great a crater, and  to my utmost amazement and saw a city of sparkling wonder nestled beneath a huge blue crystal glass dome.

I watched as the city of wonder shone in awesome glory with an internal source of riven translucent light, out into the boundless vacuum void above. In deep regret, I left this most beautiful place of peace and traveled as a point of awareness, ever outward and outward into the unimaginable vast void of the cosmos, observing all things as I went into blazing living clouds formations of iridescent colored light, as their energy flowed through me and gave me more life, causing me to stop my outward journey and hover for a brief eternity out so far, somewhere in the deep of the awesome infinite dark void of nothingness.

In breathless awe I saw the beauty and wonder of great beings of absolute pure and vibrant energy, who roam and sale the great and boundless oceans on the solar winds , with huge and great and gossamer wings that stretch out of their inner core, a million miles between each glittering tip.

Were these are the great and wonderful immortal messengers that originate from the divine source of all?

I saw beings that exist in slower time- flow reality that live so slowly that they only noticeably move in a million years, relative to us on earth, and do not realize we exist, to them we are nothing fleeting shadows, vibrating tiny entities, that come into existence and vanish before they can notice us as living entities like them.  On the opposite rate are entities that exist in a hugely faster time-flow reality than us, we only observe them in a colossal particle collider, for one brief, tiny infinitesimal flashing moment, to us they they just decay and vanish we before we can recognize their existence as living beings like us

But maybe these entities existing within an alternate reality their life spans are just as complex, meaningful and protracted as ours.

I heard sounds of beautiful cosmic music emanating from the pulsating vibrations of an infinity of blazing stars, as each one praised god with the everlasting song, across the vast void and emptiness of  boundless space. Overcome with the beauty of creation, I wept from the knowledge that each living being was essential , interconnected integrated part of the total fabric of reality which coalesce into one great everlasting being of living Mind. I saw countless cities of pure cosmic composite light, as I traveled and traveled ever and ever outward reaching reaching beyond infinity I left our universe of dark and light saw it behind my fleeting soul, as it receded from my sight, becoming smaller and smaller soul, until all that remained was but a tiny dot or singularity, withing the greater mother void of infinite limitless boundless nothingness.

Here in the womb of god all other unspoken mysterious alternate realities were to be found, each one unique in form and structure like the DNA code that causes us to become who we are in time and place.

I saw our huge universe; slowly begin to shrink and shrink until it became just one tiny shining singularity just one tiny dot of light, amongst countless other alternate places that make up all of reality.

Now in the place of Gods domain, summed up by one word alone existence, from which God sustained and created all things by the power and force of his infinite mind and words. Within the central domain of the Godhead, were in addition to our now tiny universe, countless other universes reflected also as tiny spots of energy, which were the seeds for the creation and production of Gods total existence and the reality we humans perceive us to live.

Because I had exceeded the speed of light, time began to flow backward I was now racing backward to the beginning of all creation which emanated out from the everlasting Golden solid pure light in which God exists and has his being. God never ceases to create he continues to create in an everlasting process from the inexhaustible energy of the Solid Golden light which is his Spiritual body.

Thus “Our Father which art in heaven”, thus in reality, is where the heavens are located within the Solid Golden Light which is God 

At the very fundamental level God is a living Being Spirit consisting of Golden Solid light, which is the source of inexhaustible infinitely energy, that he uses to create and sustain his woks in what we call existence. God said is the ‘All in All’ the All in All is just another way of saying all existence. “God is Light and in Him is no darkness whatsoever”

As I went back in time to the to the beginning of all things, I observed everything coalescing into one unimaginable infinitely dense ball of Golden Solid Bright light, which I knew somehow, was God, resting in readiness to create our universe, and to make space for a new universe God withdraw a portion of his infinite being, into himself  in which to place our universe and watch it grow, in his gardens of existence.

Because of the reversal of the flow of time when I left our universe I saw it continue to shrink until it became a singularity, of infinite density, somehow the seed or singularity had been forced out of the of the solid light of the mega-universe, until it burst out from within the Solid light, of the “Mother” part of the God head with such unimaginable force/energy that it began to inflate or expand to form our universe, much like a mother giving birth to a new child.

At first our universe was tiny small dark and cold, but when the Father part the God Head saw the birth of their new creation, He burst out in joy and said ‘Let there be light” and the Mother replied “And there was Light”

There is no beginning or ending only an everlasting cycle of creation and progressions of what we call existence. All will ultimately merge in one eternal moment outside time and entropy, singing the great songs of joy that is all this wonder we are also a part of creation.

We will finally know everything become co-creators with each other and the possible become possible and rejoice because we have seen the creator and become like Him, infinite, eternal and beautiful. Then it will all begin again in the everlasting infinite cycle of existence of new existence, more wonderful than the first.

As I approach the infinite long dark night
I resist and resist it with all my might
I try and try to comprehend this end
To which all men must descend

Is it a sleep that all must take?
Or is it an eternal end that all must make?
I like to dream of awakening in light not dark
In a beautiful place to which all righteous men depart

Do we sleep the sleep of forever?
Or do we awake some other place together?
Does the answer to this ultimate question
Remain forever a process of eternal redemption?

On one glorious day from timeless sleep I awoke
And heard a beautiful and kind voice that sweetly spoke
My faithful son at last you have became to understand
Exactly your place in this troubled land

You my beloved have truly never ceased to seek
The infinite destiny that in eternity for you I keep
So for you and your family no eternal death awaits
Because of your zeal to know your fate

Soon I will bring you all to this most Holy Place
And there I will you never forsake
Very soon, you shall hear a sweet call in the dark of night
Come, come into the Holy Glory of the Father Spirit of Mighty Might
 
I walk in the cool of evening along sweet meadows I have never seen
I smell the beauty of grasses that have never been
Strange golden streams of crystal water flows
As blue glory of mighty skies above glows

I search the long forgotten memories in the attic of my mind
Along the twisted channels the very depth soul that I could not find
I see before me things so wonderful I knew from long long ago
I puzzle over the enigma of knowing what I do not know

Out there far beyond the knowledge of any man is revealed
Something of such great mystery to it my heart had appealed
Why have I on this one thing so many years stalled?
Is this infinite knowledge from many man would be appalled?

Walking on through the shade of great trees that give eternal life
I hear the sweet forgotten voice that comes to free all from everlasting strife
High green new grasses in this new do land grow
As transparent waters chuckle dance, sparkle, and flow

Come then lets us go further and further
Come fly past magnificent Orion with me
At great speed to our majestic divine we flee
Through a wide void of endless night at last we fly
Reaching out to that great radiant light beyond the sky
Across a vast void space of infinite night
Together clothed in glory we continued our flight

Reaching that heavenly vast void beyond the measure of man
See before the majestic one gather all who can
By mighty angels through glorious clouds we are driven
Closer and closer to that great and mighty throne in the midst of heaven

At last to those mighty gates of heaven we came
Washed clean by his eternal purist light we became the same
In joyful incandescent glory all creation could finally sing
To our everlasting and stupendous of the holy king
I am Ceaseless Creator
But really I AM

I am life

©Copyright Alan McDougall 2013

You don't need to comment, just read it as an interesting essay if you like

Regards

Alan





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Reply #1 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:17am
 
I have to admit I could not stomach reading the whole passage.  However, Alan would have you believe he is basically second to Jesus in terms of his spiritual advancement and achievement.

Alan, do you still have your own website and posts where you call yourself "Alan McDougal, Master of Wisdom"?
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pratekya wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:17am:
I have to admit I could not stomach reading the whole passage.  However, Alan would have you believe he is basically second to Jesus in terms of his spiritual advancement and achievement.

Alan, do you still have your own website and posts where you call yourself "Alan McDougal, Master of Wisdom"?


Bipolar is an extraordinary condition.
There are great fluctuations of spirit between highs and lows, beyond the limits of what is usual.
And along with these extreme fluctuations of energy and motive is associated thought and behaviour.
The scope of the personality, with all its mental-emotional patterns is extremely wide, far wider than in most.
The personality extremes, as with many people, are contrary to each other, and difficult to manage.
In bipolar the extremes are wider and further apart, in all their dimensions.
Their contrast is greater than in most people.
And the energy of the extremes is high.
The extremes fight each other. The consciousness (or soul) is the room in which they fight.   
The person tries to make sense of his/her own extremes.
There is shame and confusion.
The contrast and incompatibility produces internal conflict.
The natural conflict, the pursuit of resolution, of victory, adds to the violence of the cycling/fluctuations.    
In persons highly spiritually motivated, the battle becomes an intensely spiritual one, alternating between highs and lows, and clarity and darkness, between accuracy and gross distortion.
The extremes mix themselves up, elements from the high extreme fall to the lower and get perverted; elements of the lower pollute the higher. 
The battle is a vicious and confusing one.

We all wage this battle within ourself, to varying degrees. We have all won and lost rounds.
But every persons fight is different; as every war is different.
Some battles are hot and savage with great contrasting opponents and violent swings this way and that, other battles slow and subtle, barely noticeable is their conflict; some think they are winning when they are losing, some think they have it won when in fact they never even made a fight and now they are happy and deluded prisoners of their selfish selves. And some think they are losing, even think they've lost, but on another level of which they cannot see, their soul has won the fight, and one day they will know that it was all worth while. There are others who have fought to their exhaustion, through long and suffering years, till they are spent to nothing left, exhausted to their soul, and in their shame and defeat and their despair, they have handed their fight to God and said, I cannot fight this any more, my Lord I hand this fight to you. Then they have looked around and felt a lightness come into their soul, their foe is gone, and never to return. Their life is changed.

It is hard to judge another's battle without immersing ourself in the ring with them. And that is hard to do.

The wide range and extreme forces inherent in a bipolar condition coupled with spiritual passion and a degree of psychic ability, fought out within a soul with a normal selfish and selfless polarities would be an extremely challenging fight. Visions, delusions, clarity, confusion, self interest and selflessness, all mixed together in powerful swirls and swings.   

Could you do better than Alan in his fight?

And how is your fight going, by the way? 


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We all wage this battle within ourself, to varying degrees. We have all won and lost rounds.
But every persons fight is different; as every war is different.


  I find the above to be especially well said.  In the end, having compassion and patience for each other (and ourselves) on this often tough road called human life is important.

   I've experienced this internal war plenty myself.  I've have had too many high minded thoughts about self, and being unusually honest, direct and open, probably have said some of them too out loud too many times as well.

    But hopefully we learn from our mistakes, and let our more expanded selves lead us in a better direction.  Meanwhile, it never does anyone any good to condemn anyone.  We can point out where and why we may disagree with some things, but condemnation of the total person, never accomplishes any good.

  Always look for the good in others, even when you do disagree with certain beliefs or behaviors.  Same for self, look for the good even when realizing there are necessities for change and growth.
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Reply #4 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 2:24am
 
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[quote]... I've have had too many high minded thoughts about self, and being unusually honest, direct and open, probably have said some of them too out loud too many times as well.


Who hasn't?
I think we all have.
That is a common error to make when we endeavour to walk a spiritual path.

I forgive you brother.



Now come down to earth.  Wink

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Reply #5 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:26am
 
pratekya wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:17am:
I have to admit I could not stomach reading the whole passage.  However, Alan would have you believe he i[b]s basically second to Jesus in terms of his spiritual advancement and achievement[/b].

Alan, do you still have your own website and posts where you call yourself "Alan McDougal, Master of Wisdom"?


Only second to Jesus?  Roll Eyes  I can believe what I like about myself without asking your pathetic opinion, as long as I don't hurt anyone in the process. However, for the last time, I will try to penetrate your skull, because as a school teacher you should be able to read and comprehend basic English by now. I AM NOT A MASTER OF WISDOM. just a little fallible mere mortal having a little fun in setting up a blog for the first time!!!

I know you by now as a long time enemy of mine of mine as I told you then I will tell you now again that I can call my blog (not website) anything I like without asking your permission, get out of my face you hypocrite. I humbled myself as far as to ask your forgiveness for what you perceived as an insult, you said you would and here you are back with your tiny hurt ego trying to bite at my heels.

Of course I know that I am not a master of wisdom, I just used that title for a little fun but now to you, I have sinned against god and man , especially you, who simple cannot forgive and forget even the slightest hurt against your tender ego.

You are just another example of self righteous so -called Christians that make me sick on my stomach.

Go back into your kennel, before your mother bites you, may the fleas of ten thousand camels be lodged in your beard  Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:40am
 
Guys,

Read my essay, and respond to it, leave out the diagnoses of my problem to the medical community. Pick it to peices if you like! Smiley

This guy pratekya as he calls himself is the only one on this great forum over the many years I have been a member that has an extreme dislike of me. He returns, at times to see if I am active on the forum to get in his little tiny minded Cry .

He has never added anything meaningful to the forum , no post that deserved dialogue, his sole purpose in life, when he returns to the forum is to insult me for what he perceives as an unforgivable sin, I did to him in the distant past!
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
I enjoy what you write, Alan, your essays which you share from time to time. Just ignore the folks who seem to make it a practice to insult, rather than share something better of their own, from their own personal storehouses of personal creativity.

I'm sure there are plenty of other people who have read your "essays" and enjoyed them. Even if there are only a few lines which inspire someone else, you have done your job, and done it well. Thanks for sharing.

I find that when I am feeling a bit constricted it is helpful to remember the expanded state of consciousness which you have obviously experienced, or you would not have been able to write what you have written at times.

If someone thinks you did not actually write what you wrote or turns their nose up at it, whatever floats their boat. Who cares? If someone else finds a little inspiration here or there, that's all that matters, in my opinion.

I don't always care so much about the opinion of a particular person I am responding to, because I know that many situations have multiple observers, and if a point does not "stick" to one person, the benefit may be realized by another, who may be a kindred spirit which I may meet in the the next life.
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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 5:10pm
 
Alan -
  I return to this site less and less as time goes on.  Part of the reason is there used to be a lot more interesting dialogue that went on.  Unfortunately you are a trend here and post a disproportionate amount, and I wanted to point out for the new folks a few things to be aware of when dealing with you.
1/  I have shown in the past multiple times that you have plagiarized.  It's a theme with you.  If anyone's interested they can find the threads on this site, unless they have been deleted.
2/  You tend to make great, grandiose claims about your spiritual adventures, with not much in the way of verifiability.  If someone didn't know you they may be confused into thinking you are a great spiritual leader.  It seems like you just create a lot of spiritual fiction.  This is to the detriment of the site, which used to include (and maybe still does include) real spiritual seekers and explorers.
3/  You made great grandiose claims through your blog, or used to, which you used to call yourself "Master of Wisdom".  In fact, here is an example from another site:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/31258-the-unimaginable-vastness-of-the-univer...

where you confirm that yes (your words speaking about your title):
"Master of wisdom, not of physics/science etc."  This isn't something you have done in fun; you were very serious about this.
4/  You are over the top insulting to people who point out your problems, as you have evidenced here.  This also coincides with the next point, which is:
5/  You are arrogant, repeatedly insulting the fact that I'm a teacher over the years, and insulting others who disagree with you.  You have said something in the past to the effect that you have had much more important jobs, and essentially the implication is that my opinion counts less than yours because of it.
6/  If you put out this spiritual fiction, don't be surprised when people criticize it.  It seems like you can't tolerate criticism or critical questioning, even when things are written in confusing ways, such as who the author was, and what various sentences mean (do you really have all of these grandiose visions)?
7/  Lastly, my question for you is why does it matter for you to try to impress people on the internet with your spiritual greatness?  I'm no psychologist, but it seems like you have a need to be respected or admired to a much greater degree than is found in most people.  You have been willing to plagiarize, insult, attack, and create stories to seemingly fulfill this need.

It's sad that a site that used to have solid dialogue from people who were genuinely spiritual seekers be hijacked into hyperventilating self aggrandizement and arrogance.
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Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:03pm
 
There is a good point here in that it might be a good idea to post your essays in one thread, Alan. Otherwise some folks may think you have a lot of threads going at the same time. That way, each time you add to the thread it will be bumped up for people to look at, and people can see all of your contributions in one place. At least, I think that would be a good way to do it for similar types of pieces which you are trying to share. Regarding the remote view thread, of course, that is a different kind of thing you were trying to do.

Whether people like what you are doing or not, it is still your right to share as you please, as far as I can tell, as long as you are a member in good standing here. But, yes, there is a point regarding multiple threads which follow closely after another, and which are similar in nature.

And, if someone doesn't like the attention that you seem to seek, so what? They don't have to give it to you, do they?
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Pratekya, i understand what you are saying, but sometimes there are greater truths than the simple and more obvious facts. 

  I really urge you to re-read and read again Crossbow's reply here.  It really was insightful and well balanced, and more importantly showed some compassion. 

  There are in some people, certain body imbalances that contribute to what most whose bodies are more innately balanced would consider weird, extreme, irrational, egotistical or delusional etc type states, behaviors, etc. 

   Lot's of times these body imbalances are such that the person's consciousness is dealing with touch and go control over that vehicle.  It's almost like a car whose steering wheel system has been distorted and it's harder to keep a straight line consistently while driving.

Think of a body as a filter for consciousness within this dimension.  If the filter is gunked up, split in two, or otherwise imbalanced, it can really strongly influence the mind and emotions of said person. 

  I will give a very strong example of this happening.  An otherwise, loving and gentle family man, had an accident wherein he fell and mildly injured his spine.  Immediately after, his whole attitude changed. He became full of rage and scared his family and friends so much that they had him committed.  In desperation, the family or friends sought a reading from Edgar Cayce.  Cayce's guidance outlined the cause, a fall or accident that caused great nerve impingement in certain areas, and outlined some osteopathic treatments, and said, if these were followed exactly, the man would become his normal self again. 

   Thankfully, they found someone to follow out these instructions to the tee.  Years later, when Cayce was giving a speech, this gentle giant of a man stood up from the audience and in tears thanked Cayce for giving him his life back.

  These imbalances can happen in various different ways, not just as in the above. 

  These cases can also be made worse at times, by unfriendly beings also focusing on these folks, because they can be easier to influence at times.  Unfriendlies like nothing more than people susceptible to their meddling.

    So, please try to see it from a bigger picture than what you previously have.  Try to have some compassion instead of condemnation.  I don't think anyone is taking Alan as their personal spiritual teacher here. 
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Reply #11 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:40pm
 
pratekya wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Alan -
  I return to this site less and less as time goes on.  Part of the reason is there used to be a lot more interesting dialogue that went on.  Unfortunately you are a trend here and post a disproportionate amount, and I wanted to point out for the new folks a few things to be aware of when dealing with you.
1/  I have shown in the past multiple times that you have plagiarized.  It's a theme with you.  If anyone's interested they can find the threads on this site, unless they have been deleted.
2/  You tend to make great, grandiose claims about your spiritual adventures, with not much in the way of verifiability.  If someone didn't know you they may be confused into thinking you are a great spiritual leader.  It seems like you just create a lot of spiritual fiction.  This is to the detriment of the site, which used to include (and maybe still does include) real spiritual seekers and explorers.
3/  You made great grandiose claims through your blog, or used to, which you used to call yourself "Master of Wisdom".  In fact, here is an example from another site:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/31258-the-unimaginable-vastness-of-the-univer...

where you confirm that yes (your words speaking about your title):
"Master of wisdom, not of physics/science etc."  This isn't something you have done in fun; you were very serious about this.
4/  You are over the top insulting to people who point out your problems, as you have evidenced here.  This also coincides with the next point, which is:
5/  You are arrogant, repeatedly insulting the fact that I'm a teacher over the years, and insulting others who disagree with you.  You have said something in the past to the effect that you have had much more important jobs, and essentially the implication is that my opinion counts less than yours because of it.
6/  If you put out this spiritual fiction, don't be surprised when people criticize it.  It seems like you can't tolerate criticism or critical questioning, even when things are written in confusing ways, such as who the author was, and what various sentences mean (do you really have all of these grandiose visions)?
7/  Lastly, my question for you is why does it matter for you to try to impress people on the internet with your spiritual greatness?  I'm no psychologist, but it seems like you have a need to be respected or admired to a much greater degree than is found in most people.  You have been willing to plagiarize, insult, attack, and create stories to seemingly fulfill this need.

It's sad that a site that used to have solid dialogue from people who were genuinely spiritual seekers be hijacked into hyperventilating self aggrandizement and arrogance.


pratekya I will not permit you to call me by my first name Alan, that name is restricted to my friends, which are all the forum member with the exception of you! I have been bold in using my own name, but vultures like you, follow me around the internet trying to devour me, with hate spite and retribution. I dare you to use your own name like I have and you will find your like quickly following around and taking the bait to sprout their hate and venom.

You are a hypocrite of the worst kind, pontificating scripture to us, while not applying it to your own life.

This forum is not a Christian based forum, it is a place for open minded interaction on the Afterlife, Mysterious, esoteric and the unexplained. If you have nothing to add around these topics go away and leave us alone!

We don't want and don't need your attempts to brain wash us by posting Christian Cherrie picked scriptures from a bible that many don't believe in and that is full of ridiculous nonsense , like a 6 day creation, 6 thousand year old earth, god of retribution , spite and hate, like you are turning out to be, if your are not careful

Jesus said, if you don't forgive another then you will not be forgiven yourself. Using your own religious dogma, I asked years age for your forgiveness, for a hash personal message I sent you years ago, while both of us were active on the forum. AND YOU SAID YOU HAVE FORGIVEN ME!!

It was a personal message from me to you, yet you betrayed my trust and put it on the forum for all and sundry to see. By the way, no one commented or took your side back then , so why for gods sake do you keep coming back and harping about it, get over it, like a man, not a hurt little baby?

Yet now years later you come back with hate and unforgiving and attempt to make me look like a lying idiot and fraud in the eyes of my fellow seekers of deeper knowledge. Thus you are a hypocrite according to your own religious belief system.

he unimaginable vastness of the universe, is my own work I wrote it long ago and to lie and say I plagiarized my own work is a despicable spiteful lie!


Guys go please go and Google using my name for your search and see if you can come up with all the plagiarizing he said was done by me and it should be obvious, even to the most stupid that the essay

Unlike the spiteful person in the quote I am educated in the sciences and very comfortable debating of scientific forums. All he does is criticize others, trying to prove they are lying cheats, when he has never, ever put even one interesting topic on the forum, which he haunts now again, with his spite, sprouting self religious dogma, that he expect others to adhere to while he does the exact opposite to what he preaches, sowing seeds of discord hate and spite.

Guys please Google my name Alan McDougall (I have always used my own name on the internet, so I have to both walk the walk and talk the talk)

When I first joined this forum the internet was brand new in South Africa, I had absolutely zero knowledge how to behave or act in it, especially on a forum like ours, so being a fallible mere mortal I made mistakes, including copy and pasting articles from a few sources on the web, when I had no idea that this was wrong, because I was new to the net and only using with the painfully slow dial up system of the early internet in South Africa.

Bruce Moen pointed out my errors to me, I learned from his advice and stopped copy and pasting, unless I put the link to the article, something I was totally unaware was necessary back then as a completely new user.

Now I sit with this hateful hypocrite getting under my skin with his spite, it seems that I have committed a sin against his god for which there is simply no forgiveness

Friends of mine on the forum , please use a Google search, with my name Alan McDougall and objectively see for yourselves, if you can come up with all the cheating plagiarizing he accuses me of, especially after he told you that I have plagiarized my own work

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The unimaginable vastness of the universe

06-15-10, 02:00 AM

Greetings forum,

I am sure most of you have some concept of how truly huge our beautiful universe is, For the others who perhaps do not have a good perspective about this, I post this thread for them .I do not think it will generate much dialogue and my purpose for posting this topic was just for general interest and information.

The vastness of the universe

Author Alan McDougall

The distances in space are unimaginably vast beyond human comprehension. If I try, tell an uninformed that it is so many kilometers to the Sun or moon, will these people be able to comprehend these vast unbelievable distances. The moon and sun are a mere two light seconds and eight light minutes respectively from the earth.

Light travels at 300 000 kilometers a second or seven times around the earth in the same time. The moon is a mere 400 00 kilometers and the sun about 156 million kilometers from the earth respectively, next-door neighbors in fact. Even this is near distance on cosmological scale is almost impossible for anyone to truly comprehend.

What about our nearest neighbor, Alpha Centauri only 4.2 light years away and the next nearest star to the sun. Just around the corner on the vast cosmological scale.

It helps if one understands that the fastest object ever made by man “(spacecraft voyager at 100 000 kilometers per hour)” would take 80,000 years to get there. Then if you understand how amazingly fast that object actually goes one might begin to gleaning some understanding of how far away Alpha Centauri is. Moreover, Centauri is our next-door neighbor!

Then we can move further. Let us say, Epsilon Eridani, 10 light years away. That is over twice as far - Voyager would take close to 200,000 years to get there. All evidence of human civilization would be pretty much gone in a few thousand years, given an average society lifespan of about 1000 years or less, We're talking 200 societies coming and going before Voyager makes it to Epsilon Eridani. Moreover, Epsilon Eridani is right next door.

The Andromeda galaxy, The galaxy nearest to our own milky way galaxy is mere two million light years away.. Voyager would take forty thousand billion years (40,000,000,000,000) to get there. That is over 3300 times longer than the current postulated age of the universe, and that's our nearest galactic neighbor.

There are galaxies that are estimated to be 12 billion light years from earth and the strange objects called quasars even further at 14 billion light years. To reach far galaxies like these unimaginable remote objects, with a Voyager like spacecraft, would take almost an eternity and it is obvious that this cannot be the ultimate method of crossing the universe. I foresee instant teleportation or some type of mind contact means as the method used by advanced humanity communicating across the vastness of the universe in the very distant future. To explore the universe by means of a metal space craft at present seems a science fiction impossibility. But in time present perceived impossibilities might become a possibility!


"The universe could be a sphere of infinite radius"

By Alan McDougall 15/9/2007

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Reply #12 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 7:43pm
 

Alan,
Seagull has presented the solution.
A single thread for your essays and your accounts of experiences.
It could even be titled something like Aland McDougall's Essays and Insights (? - just a thought)
And we can visit that thread and read and comment on Alan's work.
It could be a thread where spiritualism and cosmology meet.
And all related disagreements, if they occur, will be confined to that same thread.
Then we would not have disagreements (which those not involved in do not care about) scattered here and there about the conversation board.
Seagull's solution will solve not only the problem of uninteresting personal disagreements scattered all about, but will also greatly reduce if not cease those disagreements altogether, for those who have such disagreements with Alan may choose not to visit his thread.

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Reply #13 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:17pm
 
seagull wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:03pm:
There is a good point here in that it might be a good idea to post your essays in one thread, Alan. Otherwise some folks may think you have a lot of threads going at the same time. That way, each time you add to the thread it will be bumped up for people to look at, and people can see all of your contributions in one place. At least, I think that would be a good way to do it for similar types of pieces which you are trying to share. Regarding the remote view thread, of course, that is a different kind of thing you were trying to do.

Whether people like what you are doing or not, it is still your right to share as you please, as far as I can tell, as long as you are a member in good standing here. But, yes, there is a point regarding multiple threads which follow closely after another, and which are similar in nature.

And, if someone doesn't like the attention that you seem to seek, so what? They don't have to give it to you, do they?


Hi,

I have written a huge amount over the years and it would be impossible for me to put all of them in one thread!
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Alan, one aptly named thread with room for plenty of posts is very possible.
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Reply #15 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:57am
 
Whoa Alan! You're revving high and running hot. Ease up before you blow a gasket.

I just opened the forum board and saw 10 of the 12 top threads are started by you, and all are started with descent sized posts, some are fair dinkum whoppers.

Its overwhelming for forum readers. You can't expect people to keep up with that.   

And people don't want to see one person's threads all over the place. 

grrr  It even annoys me and I'm a really easy going sort of fella. Imagine how it must irritate the easily ruffled ones like Recoverer and Matt. 

Use one thread, Alan. 

Or put all your essays on a blog and put the address in the signature of your posts, then forum users can read your essays at their leisure without having them all the way down the board.

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[quote author=626563707F76747C74110 link=1392583984/0#0 date=1392583984]Hi People,

carl mentioned my bipolar illness and it is this so called disability that has enabled me to see further into the spiritual and mysterious realms that most people. Unfortunately I can see into both dark and light realms, in many primitive societies the holy man, would be diagnosed by western medical science, as a szchophrenic or psychotic manic, just like me, because we see, hear, know things most "normal" people, with respect, are not aware of or only experience a few time during their life span on earth

This is a sort of composite of visions and dreams I have put  over the years, with some poetic license and a large chunk of fertile imagination, I must add.

The Journey of the night

I have gone to many places, walked on great grass prairies, and the steppes of high planes, flew up and down green wooded mountains of wonder, stood at the sides of the north at a great and infinite Sea, as the everlasting winds of change blew through my mysterious body electric. Below I saw the earth in its all its beauty and rose up so high that the blue became black.  I walked on a dark and grey monochrome moon, climbed the rim of a great a crater, and  to my utmost amazement and saw a city of sparkling wonder nestled beneath a huge blue crystal glass dome.

I watched as the city of wonder shone in awesome glory with an internal source of riven translucent light, out into the boundless vacuum void above. In deep regret, I left this most beautiful place of peace and traveled as a point of awareness, ever outward and outward into the unimaginable vast void of the cosmos, observing all things as I went into blazing living clouds formations of iridescent colored light, as their energy flowed through me and gave me more life, causing me to stop my outward journey and hover for a brief eternity out so far, somewhere in the deep of the awesome infinite dark void of nothingness.

In breathless awe I saw the beauty and wonder of great beings of absolute pure and vibrant energy, who roam and sale the great and boundless oceans on the solar winds , with huge and great and gossamer wings that stretch out of their inner core, a million miles between each glittering tip.

Were these are the great and wonderful immortal messengers that originate from the divine source of all?

I saw beings that exist in slower time- flow reality that live so slowly that they only noticeably move in a million years, relative to us on earth, and do not realize we exist, to them we are nothing fleeting shadows, vibrating tiny entities, that come into existence and vanish before they can notice us as living entities like them.  On the opposite rate are entities that exist in a hugely faster time-flow reality than us, we only observe them in a colossal particle collider, for one brief, tiny infinitesimal flashing moment, to us they they just decay and vanish we before we can recognize their existence as living beings like us

But maybe these entities existing within an alternate reality their life spans are just as complex, meaningful and protracted as ours.

I heard sounds of beautiful cosmic music emanating from the pulsating vibrations of an infinity of blazing stars, as each one praised god with the everlasting song, across the vast void and emptiness of  boundless space. Overcome with the beauty of creation, I wept from the knowledge that each living being was essential , interconnected integrated part of the total fabric of reality which coalesce into one great everlasting being of living Mind. I saw countless cities of pure cosmic composite light, as I traveled and traveled ever and ever outward reaching reaching beyond infinity I left our universe of dark and light saw it behind my fleeting soul, as it receded from my sight, becoming smaller and smaller soul, until all that remained was but a tiny dot or singularity, withing the greater mother void of infinite limitless boundless nothingness.

Here in the womb of god all other unspoken mysterious alternate realities were to be found, each one unique in form and structure like the DNA code that causes us to become who we are in time and place.

I saw our huge universe; slowly begin to shrink and shrink until it became just one tiny shining singularity just one tiny dot of light, amongst countless other alternate places that make up all of reality.

Now in the place of Gods domain, summed up by one word alone existence, from which God sustained and created all things by the power and force of his infinite mind and words. Within the central domain of the Godhead, were in addition to our now tiny universe, countless other universes reflected also as tiny spots of energy, which were the seeds for the creation and production of Gods total existence and the reality we humans perceive us to live.

Because I had exceeded the speed of light, time began to flow backward I was now racing backward to the beginning of all creation which emanated out from the everlasting Golden solid pure light in which God exists and has his being. God never ceases to create he continues to create in an everlasting process from the inexhaustible energy of the Solid Golden light which is his Spiritual body.

Thus “Our Father which art in heaven”, thus in reality, is where the heavens are located within the Solid Golden Light which is God 

At the very fundamental level God is a living Being Spirit consisting of Golden Solid light, which is the source of inexhaustible infinitely energy, that he uses to create and sustain his woks in what we call existence. God said is the ‘All in All’ the All in All is just another way of saying all existence. “God is Light and in Him is no darkness whatsoever”

As I went back in time to the to the beginning of all things, I observed everything coalescing into one unimaginable infinitely dense ball of Golden Solid Bright light, which I knew somehow, was God, resting in readiness to create our universe, and to make space for a new universe God withdraw a portion of his infinite being, into himself  in which to place our universe and watch it grow, in his gardens of existence.

Because of the reversal of the flow of time when I left our universe I saw it continue to shrink until it became a singularity, of infinite density, somehow the seed or singularity had been forced out of the of the solid light of the mega-universe, until it burst out from within the Solid light, of the “Mother” part of the God head with such unimaginable force/energy that it began to inflate or expand to form our universe, much like a mother giving birth to a new child.

At first our universe was tiny small dark and cold, but when the Father part the God Head saw the birth of their new creation, He burst out in joy and said ‘Let there be light” and the Mother replied “And there was Light”

There is no beginning or ending only an everlasting cycle of creation and progressions of what we call existence. All will ultimately merge in one eternal moment outside time and entropy, singing the great songs of joy that is all this wonder we are also a part of creation.

We will finally know everything become co-creators with each other and the possible become possible and rejoice because we have seen the creator and become like Him, infinite, eternal and beautiful. Then it will all begin again in the everlasting infinite cycle of existence of new existence, more wonderful than the first.

As I approach the infinite long dark night
I resist and resist it with all my might
I try and try to comprehend this end
To which all men must descend

Is it a sleep that all must take?
Or is it an eternal end that all must make?
I like to dream of awakening in light not dark
In a beautiful place to which all righteous men depart

Do we sleep the sleep of forever?
Or do we awake some other place together?
Does the answer to this ultimate question
Remain forever a process of eternal redemption?

On one glorious day from timeless sleep I awoke
And heard a beautiful and kind voice that sweetly spoke
My faithful son at last you have became to understand
Exactly your place in this troubled land

You my beloved have truly never ceased to seek
The infinite destiny that in eternity for you I keep
So for you and your family no eternal death awaits
Because of your zeal to know your fate

Soon I will bring you all to this most Holy Place
And there I will you never forsake
Very soon, you shall hear a sweet call in the dark of night
Come, come into the Holy Glory of the Father Spirit of Mighty Might
 
I walk in the cool of evening along sweet meadows I have never seen
I smell the beauty of grasses that have never been
Strange golden streams of crystal water flows
As blue glory of mighty skies above glows

I search the long forgotten memories in the attic of my mind
Along the twisted channels the very depth soul that I could not find
I see before me things so wonderful I knew from long long ago
I puzzle over the enigma of knowing what I do not know

Out there far beyond the knowledge of any man is revealed
Something of such great mystery to it my heart had appealed
Why have I on this one thing so many years stalled?
Is this infinite knowledge from many man would be appalled?

Walking on through the shade of great trees that give eternal life
I hear the sweet forgotten voice that comes to free all from everlasting strife
High green new grasses in this new do land grow
As transparent waters chuckle dance, sparkle, and flow

Come then lets us go further and further
Come fly past magnificent Orion with me
At great speed to our majestic divine we flee
Through a wide void of endless night at last we fly
Reaching out to that great radiant light beyond the sky
Across a vast void space of infinite night
Together clothed in glory we continued our flight

Reaching that heavenly vast void beyond the measure of man
See before the majestic one gather all who can
By mighty angels through glorious clouds we are driven
Closer and closer to that great and mighty throne in the midst of heaven

At last to those mighty gates of heaven we came
Washed clean by his eternal purist light we became the same
In joyful incandescent glory all creation could finally sing
To our everlasting and stupendous of the holy king
I am Ceaseless Creator
But really I AM

I am life

©Copyright Alan McDougall 2013

You don't need to comment, just read it as an interesting essay if you like

Regards

Alan


DocM and Rondele. Before you organize one of your Afterlife Conversation members lynch mobs against me, like PauliEffect, who contributed more to this forum than you'll ever will, and suffered the consequences of being barred for life; take a look at the evidence of the person you are supporting now above,  and have accused me of being a troll against him in all his recent posts!?


Copied and Pasted from Dr.Phil McGraw's website:

*Are You an Enabler?

*An enabler is a person who, acting out of a sincere sense of love, loyalty and concern, steps in to protect, cover up for, make excuses for and become more responsible for the chemically dependent person. This can prevent the chemically dependent individual from the crisis that might bring about change, and thereby prolong his/her illness. Some common enabling behaviors are:

*Avoiding problems by trying to keep the peace. Believing that a lack of conflict will solve problems.

*Denying that the person is using drugs or is chemically dependent.

*Keeping your feelings inside.

*Minimizing: "It's not so bad, things will get better when..."

*Lecturing, blaming, or criticizing the chemically dependent person. (Ahh. Yes! I'm an enabler too! Carl.)

*Taking over his/her responsibilities.

*Protecting the chemically dependent person from pain.

*Feeling superior; treating the dependent person like a child.

*Trying to control the dependent person.

*Enduring: "This too shall pass."

*Waiting: "God will take care of this."

   

       


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Reply #17 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 4:27am
 
1796 wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:57am:
Whoa Alan! You're revving high and running hot. Ease up before you blow a gasket.

I just opened the forum board and saw 10 of the 12 top threads are started by you, and all are started with descent sized posts, some are fair dinkum whoppers.

Its overwhelming for forum readers. You can't expect people to keep up with that.   

And people don't want to see one person's threads all over the place. 

grrr  It even annoys me and I'm a really easy going sort of fella. Imagine how it must irritate the easily ruffled ones like Recoverer and Matt. 

Use one thread, Alan. 

Or put all your essays on a blog and put the address in the signature of your posts, then forum users can read your essays at their leisure without having them all the way down the board.

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You are right and those threads will be my last for at least a month!

I take advice to heart from friends like you, and your point is valid and I will act on it!

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Reply #18 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 4:45am
 
Hi carl,

You did a good job on your own making members of the forum dislike you, without my help go back and read your unpleasant posts to Doc (Matthew) and others.

I tried to make friends with you, asked your forgiveness and all you have done is return to my thread with hate and spite.

Dr Phil McGraw is not my idea of an exalted master, he is a psychologist of some re noun, but his statements are not always the gospel truth , that everyone should live by.

Are you an "enabler that you expect others to be?

As for me I am in the twilight of my life , but I will never stop learning and asking questions until I put off this mortal coil.

Tell me and the other members, exactly please! what is your agenda and purpose on this, "otherwise" friendly forum?

From now on a will ignore all your posts and threads, if the forum had an ignore function I would put you on my list?
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Reply #19 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 6:33pm
 
Hi there were some errors in my first post that opened the thread, hopefully this eliminates them.


A dream or vision of the night

I Rose Up Until the Blue Became Black


I have gone to many places walked on the great grass prairies, and steppes, running up and down green mountains of wonder, stood at the north of Scotland with the icy North Sea blowing on my body. I saw the earth in its blue beauty and rose up to where the blue became black. 

I have walked on a monochrome moon, climbed up a crater, saw a domed city, that looked like a beautiful Eden planet under its translucent glass. Left this beautiful sight and traveled ever outward into the unimaginably vast physical universe observing as I went blazing living clouds of iridescent colored light formations felt colossal translucent beings flowing through my awareness as I hovered somewhere in the deep of the awesome void.

I heard the sounds of beautiful cosmic music that emanated out from the vibrations of an infinite stars as the praised god with song across the vast emptiness between them  My mind overcome with the beauty wept, knowing now that each living being was an essential building block a brick that holds up the fabric of reality and existence. I have seen cities of pure composite light traveled and at the speed of infinity exiting the universe until it became a tiny dot in the utter vastness of the googolplex other different universes.

I have watched in breathless awe all the beauty and wonder of great beings of absolute purity who roam the great oceans of space on great gossamer wings stretching a million miles between their glittering with tips. Were these the great messengers the Angels of God?

I have seen beings that are so slow that they only make one move in a million years relative to us on earth, and do not raise we exist because to them we are fleeting vibrating entities that come into existence and vanish before they can notice us as living beings like them.

There are other entities that  exist relative to us for one tiny infinitesimal flashing moment and vanish before we ever notice they exist. But to both these beings of alternate realities their life spans are just as complex protracted and full as ours.

Blazing into the “Super Mother Universe” I observed the awesome Golden Light of the Infinite the “Source of it all” and, could not comprehend the unimaginable beauty of the “Original Father Spirit.

There is no beginning or ending only an everlasting cycle of creation and progressions of what we call existence. All will ultimately merge in one eternal moment outside time and entropy, singing the great songs of joy that is all this wonder we are also a part of creation. We will finally know everything become co-creators with each other and the possible become possible and rejoice because we have seen the creator and become like Him, infinite, eternal and beautiful. Then it will all begin again in the everlasting infinite cycle of existence of new existence, more wonderful than the first.

I am Ceaseless Creator
But really I AM
I am life
I am God
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