Hi All,

These videos really amazed me, I am not trying to promote Christianity with them, just posting them for the interest of the forum members.

Note they are all very short only a few minutes at most, please look and listen, you might be as amazed as I was!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoRtVhSpVUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoRtVhSpVUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFd855gowI

Impressive.

I don't mind promoting Christianity.

These cases, if they be true as presented, may be considered testament to the power of extremely polarising both the mind and the heart through the landmarks of Christ and Satan.

Fundamentalism, with its innate stark contrast and extreme opposite concepts, stretches both mind and heart, and aligns them at the better end of their possible reach. Contrast clarifies. And the concept of extreme opposing directions enables precise navigation in any direction. Without that contrast and those cardinal north-south references, scope and range diminish and direction finding becomes vague and imprecise.   

This is why - even though some may think me an occult/mystic who believes in meditation, astral travel, past lives, second sight and so on - I also first and foremost believe in the power of fundamental Christianity with all its stark extremes. When the extremes are appreciated, then what lies anywhere between them is easy to comprehend, but what is outside of our extreme comprehensions of our mind and heart, we have no access to. People can only venture, work and operate in mind and heart within the boundaries of the extremes they fathom and appreciate, not outside of them. Bringing the forces of the extremes to bear upon a precise point is power. Underneath the potent occultist (for want of a better word) is a fundamentalist Christian. No other religion has further reaching more intense extremes of mind and heart, and hence more scope, precision and power than does Christianity. Of course individuals are free to disbelieve that, or even resent it.  


crossbow

Hi Alan,

I could fill up a thread with examples of miraculous healing shrines from numerous ethnic groups and religions.  I don't see the point, as it speaks to the truth about the human condition - that thought coupled with conviction (true belief) can manifest what appear to be miracles in the physical world.  Jesus told his disciples they could go out and do what he did vis-a-vis healings.  I do not believe any single religion holds the only key to miracles; our nature is not physical - we are spirits encased in flesh, and thought can be manifest in the real world. 

In any event, here are a few links from some popular healing shrines.  The fact that they are non-christian, and that there are thousands of other shrines out there with miraculous healings should help people understand that healing comes from spirit, and is not copyrighted to a particular person or group.  Don on this board, a devout christian, cites a famous NDE of a christian who asks what the "right" religion is for God.  The answer "the one which brings you closest to God (love)." 

There is a link to an ancient healing temple devoted to the God Shiva in India, in which miraculous healings have occurred:

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1325

A shrine in Thatta has shown miraculous healings - it appears to be arabic in origin, although one of the locals talks of praying to Baba and witnessing the healings:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/607620/healing-powers-shrines-in-thatta-beckon-those...

By the way Alan, in that last video you linked, the woman clearly has a brown paste covering her body.  I saw no evidence that video provided any medical miracle that could not be achieved with either conventional or herbal folklore treatments (I suspect the brown paste was something deliberately applied). 

When JC heals people in the New Testament, he says "go now, your faith has made you whole."  Notice it is not "my faith has made you whole," but the person's own faith.  If the patient couples belief with the image of healing, they may succeed - though there are multiple physical factors and mental/emotional factors at play in a healing.  It is, however, a way for people to hear that faith can manifest changes into probabilities and real outcomes in our everyday lives.


Matthew

Cats and dogs can give healing if they want to. They don't give the impression of being omnipotent for someone to hand over their power, then give some of it back to make it seem miraculous and demand bow wow, scrape and meow, in glory of course.

Light polarity and dark polarity are behind the clothing that different representatives are wearing. Devotees of light polarity can accuse you of being selfish and weak. Devotees of dark polarity can accuse you of compassion and weakness. Weak because you refuse to set up camp in their territory. Are you with us, or are you against us, you lukewarm you?

Hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me for posting something something you don't understand.

Hi Matthew (especially you Matthew) and others!

I would like you to look at this amazing video, could the explanation be the powerful placebo effect or is something else very odd is happening?

I know this is a bit off topic in this sub-forum, but it is the most active one in the forum and felt that many people would be interested. Again I am not trying to promote Christianity just show that the supernatural still happens in this day and age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Aakvj-HSKw

To me, the most mysterious thing is not that healing occurred.  There are other documented cases.

Instead, it's that the vast majority of people seeking such healing do not get it.

We hear about the isolated cases, and yes they are remarkable and attest to the legitimacy of healing, but not much notice is paid to those where healing did not take place.

Does God play favorites?  Or is there something else that determines the success or failure of healing?  Faith perhaps is a factor, but I'm sure there are others who also have faith. 

Any ideas?

R

Roger,

As someone intensely interested in healing, I have some ideas - take them for what you will...

First, a wish or desire for healing is not sufficient to often cause a healing.  Why?  There is no judgement here, and no divine unfairness.  Simply put, spiritual healing occurs when both the healer and the patient, combine strong conviction/belief with the prayer for the healing, and are able to affect probabilities in the real world and manifest a healing.  Probabilities are what they are.  They are tendencies, but various factors may affect a possible or probable outcome.  The physical world has a wide range of energies which can cause confounding variables.  This makes scientific experiments difficult (to control for the variables in order to study one particular phenomenon). 

I would put it to you that spiritual healing suffers from the same interactions with multiple variables.  One of them, on a spiritual level is what Kathy refers to as "cross purpose" thinking (thank you Kathy).  Meaning, the healing is sought after, and the healed state visualized but at the same time, doubt arises and the subconscious template is given a deeper message of "that will never work, I am going to die,(etc.)"   This is not to blame a person for a failed healing (worst thing to think is if I had been strong enough in my faith, then the outcome would have been different).  Just to say that we all wish for things, but at the same time cultivate doubt and negative thoughts too.

The subconscious template responds not to our superficial wishes or thoughts, but to our deepest convictions.  If we say "I want this tumor healed.  I believe it," but we are cultivating the thought "that is impossible,"  the subconscious either gets two commands to manifest different outcomes, or only the negative one sticks for it is coupled to belief.  It is for this reason that many healers try to cultivate the excitement and give thanks for the healing as if it already happened.  The idea being that you manifest the healing when you learn to couple the command to conviction or true belief.  (This is, in my opinion the secret to many types of shamanism, magic, and manifestations in our daily lives in the earth plane). 

The other confounding variables likely have to do with the energy and thoughts of others we interact with, the physical laws related to the illness, and also, possibly any divine plan we are part of in terms of the exit of our earthly life  - though that part I have no experience with myself. 

What is in the best interest for the person?  Well, normally, we all would say "a healing," but under what circumstances is that not true?  I don't know.  If someone has done what they set out to do in the earth plane - if they can better spiritually develop in Focus 27 at a certain stage in their life, does it still make sense to stay in a body on earth?  I don't know.  But it is food for thought.

There are books on spiritual scientific healing - there have been several spiritualist healing movements/schools.  I read an interesting book on the subject by Ernest Holmes called the Science of Mind which I found to be most interesting. 

I think some renowned healers are more free of ego clutter than most of us.  JC had many famous healings, but I always found it interesting that he credited the afflicted person's faith in being the catalyst for the healing "your faith has made you whole."  This may be another factor, wherein, the spiritual healer has believe/conviction in the healing, but the afflicted person does not.  There may be instances where a person's will/intent may trump another's, but I am not aware of how that kind of equation would work...

Matthew