DocM wrote, Quote:


   Some don't see it quite as just "getting it right", but a combination of different processes that are interrelated.  Having experience for the sake of experience, growth of consciousness of the Whole, individual growth, and opening up to purer and purer levels of love. 

  It's more a matter of dropping hindrances to the ability to open up to love than necessarily getting it right.  Different people will describe it in slightly different ways with slightly different words, but it's the same essential concept, growing in love and general awareness or expansion of consciousness.

  And i'm not saying that this process has be completed here.  A number of sources talk about being here in this physical system for awhile, and eventually growing to complete the process in other physical or nonphysical systems that aren't much energetically connected to the physical Earth and it's related non physical dimensional aspects.

   The physical and it's conditions are fairly unique and intense in a lot of respects compared to many other levels/dimensions of Consciousness though, and that's part of reason why it's a popular place and why many do make repeated rounds here. 

  So many sources speak of this odd and common dichotomy of Consciousnesses and their attitudes to having lives here, a weird combination of excitement and appreciation for the opportunity, but also some definite reservation and caution because it IS so intense here, and easy to get off track of your original intents for incarnating. 

  Every time we incarnate into such a difficult and polarized stream, we do run the risk of getting off track some and regressing some, and while that's a consideration we also know that we have a lot of time and opportunity to grow. 

   And individually and temporarily speaking, there are different reasons for different individuals incarnating here.  Often with more immature souls, they incarnate here a lot because they are addicted to the excitement and drama of this place. They are like adrenaline junkies and often like having power, wealth, status and influence here.  These Disks and connected probes tend to cycle in and out fast and constantly, as much as circumstances and higher ups allow.   

  Some of us incarnate here less for specific and individual growth or any more "physical-emotional" experiences, and more to act as guides and positive energy centers for others (but they do grow through that as well, they just don't necessarily need to incarnate here). 

  And there is a whole range in between these.  Then there are many Consciousnesses who don't ever come to places like this.  Then there are some who once in a great while like to dip into places like this but spend most of their awareness in more fluid and harmonious states and dimensions. 

  Quite a range out there of activity, patterns, intents, motivation, but ultimately, whether the individual consciously knows or consciously works with it or not all the time, the purpose is the expansion of the individual and of the Whole in combo.

   Until you have more definite experiences and verification's with the concept of reincarnation (as some of us here have had), whether Disk type, literal, a combo, or something different, it will be more of an intellectual concept to you and you will tend to be more on fence.  And there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever, but you're speaking more as someone who guesses than knows from repeated experience. 

  If you really want to know the more whole and full truth of the matter, while meditating make the intent to connect only to the most loving, spiritually developed, aware, constructive-creative and helpful Consciousnesses and ask these with no preconceptions for help, guidance, and info about this.  If they think it's helpful for you and your growth, you will be given info about something along those lines at some point. 

  Practicing Bruce's feeling of love exercises whilst doing the above can only help and expand your sensitivity and awareness of those kinds of very expanded forces. 

  Talking to us here about it, is like a child asking your fellow child playmates while living in Cincinnati and all of them only having been there, "anybody knows what's going on in Barrow Alaska"   More pragmatic to ask and talk with a widely traveled adult that has been to that part of Alaska many times.

  Just makes more sense to talk to the grown ups for the more accurate scoop on things.  As far as i know and can tell, no one here, very much including myself, is currently a full grown adult in this sense.  The only in human that i consciously know of who we could say that about is the one Bob temporarily labeled "He/She" and many others call something differently. 

  By fully adult, i mean an individual completely and constantly opened up to the awareness and livingness of PUL and Oneness/Universal Consciousness, PUL incarnate.  My definition of true and real "enlightenment".