Hi Kathy, thank you and you're welcome
And thank you too Doc

I still don't think that fear would be at the basis of every emotion.
I think that some people might be more involved with fear then others. It might have a cause in a previous life when someone had to endure terrible situations beyond their power: drowning to death, burning to death, tortured to death.
I guess such experiences may leave deep scars behind in a persons subconscious.
Some time ago I read on another forum of someone who was terrified of water and others there suggested that she had drowned in her previous life. That seemed pretty obvious to me too.

I do remember from my own experience that I visited Vienna when I was about 18 years old. It gave me a terrible feeling. On one hand I felt very familiar overthere and wondered why everything had changed so much. On the other hand there was this terrible fear coming into me that gave me the all persisting urge to be out of there before the night would fall. So I made it out of there ASAP.
Years later I had a psychic reading with a very talented woman who could see your aura and chakra's by nature. During that session she told me I had had a life about 200 years ago in Vienne. It was a very intens and chaotic life that ended in suicide. And when I entered the afterlife it took me a very long time to come back to myself. So...
when I thought back of my experience some years earlier a few things fell into place.


I don't see how pride or arrogance would have to have an underlaying fear. People can be pretty confident about themselves and certain things they can do. That may give them a sense of superiority over others that is not legitimate, an oversized ego.
But such emotions do stand in your way to get higher in the spheres of light. I also think that hate does not necessarily need to have a basis in fear either. It is possible of course, but some people might be very obsessed with being in control over their environment that they easily might develop hate as soon as someone does not recognize that and obeys to that.
Things like that may be very complex and very differentiated. Some psychos might be easily analyzed in a few pages, others might need volumes to fully describe.


Hunger has always been a driving force for all life to search for food. You need to eat. Your body needs it to function properly. That is obvious. But it doesn't automatically mean there is an underlaying fear of dying if we don't find it. In general collecting food is a regular occupation in everyone's life without a sense of fear at all.
I usually get my food in the supermarket and not a flinch of fear is inside me. I am more focused on getting the cheapest deals so I have more money to spare for other things. But it is not fear that drives me. It's my intellect that says: hey, you can do smarter then that.

But also in the past when we lived in the wildernes food was generally quite readily available. Of course there may have been times that it was more difficult, that some found themselves in an extreme situation. But in general God would not put you on a planet to test you and to starve you. God did not have that in mind for all creatures. It would conflict with the concept of an unconditional loving God. So, there could be a few more things to be said about that as well.


Regards,
Mogenblue / Frits

But what keeps me thinking is how it actually happens.

How can it be that someone like master Alcar who was already walking and moving around in a sphere of light was reincarnated back on earth to serve, to bring paintings of art, lost himself in his lower traits and then when he entered the afterlife again had to accept the Land of Twilight?

They say that wisdom and consciousness that you have gained, acquired, will never get lost. But by some aspects of yourself it appears to happen that you obscure your sphere of light, that you change your natural habitat from a sphere of light into a sphere of darkness.

And then you really have to work on yourself, on those specific traits, to come out of it again to get access again to a sphere of light.

I think it is not so much moving from one place to another (and the books confirm that), but more solving unfinished traits in yourself. Those traits, those lower traits are what cause your light to dissolve, to disappear, so that you are left with darkness around you.

I just keep wondering about it.





overhere
in Amsterdam

I would like to give a little update about myself. Most of it I have already shared with you in the past, so that will not be very new to you. But I would like to address the issue of fear, what role it has played so far. Because fear has played a significant role in my life. As Kathy has said: you need to let go of fear. So I will show you how I have gone about it.

I have been heavily influenced by my mother while I still lived at home. I come from a family of seven children where I was 6th in line. My mother married as a virgin and she had very strong feelings about purity in that respect. She could burst into a fury if you would talk about emotion. So in some respects she had absolutely no idea what love means at all.
Of course we all noticed that but none of us was able to do something about it because she was the dominating figure and my father was too soft in his character to be able to change anything about that.

I was raised in a Roman Catholic family. We all know how they manipulate you with doom and eternal hell.
My parents lived in a time where the church still had much control over the community. That is why after the war they were able to push my mother to have so many children. She thought is was more then enough after five, but the pastors insisted 'she would do more' or so. So she had two more and when they tried to push her even further she knocked them out of the house. They had gone too far.

All in all my parents had seven children. First three daughters, then four boys. The care of so many children was too much for my parents. It was a very hectic situation at home. That is why she decided to put her daughters in a boarding school. I was still pretty young then, about four or so. That gave much more peace in the house.



From her sense of purity she decided that I had to stay 'clean' as well until I would meet 'the right one'. I asked her how I would know that and she replied she couldn't tell me.
That went so far that she refused to let me have girl friends and she even would not pass the telephone through if a girl would call for me. So she deliberately and actively blocked my emotional development.

She also loaded me with her poison that people could not be trusted and always repeated the story of how her father fell into deep poverty after making some wrong decisions in his life and difficult it was to support his family of about eight or nine children.
That was pretty sickening from time to time.

Because she refused me to have contact with girls my friends said they could not go around with me anymore because I stayed behind. I lost my friends. I tried to make new, but the word spread, so others would avoid me.
So my lonely life started at home due to my mother's influence.

Before I finished my technical education I had left my parental home because it had become clear that the situation at home would never turn to a better end. But the harm had been done.
My mother had made me so insecure about myself that I was never able again to overcome that. She had ruined my emotional development. She had created fear in me to fail and fear how she would react if ever I would bring a girl home to meet my parents. I had done that once and the way she worked that girl out decided I would never let anything like that to happen again.

Also, because she was my mother there was this bond between her and me, the motherbond, that never got away. Not until she died.

Because of that I was never able to establish normal relationships with women anymore. I was too scared of what my parents would do.
So that was a significant factor why things went wrong when I met my twinsoul in my mid thirties.
I had never been able to learn how to go around with women, so engaging with my twinsoul again was doomed to fail.
My guides, who had informed me of who she was and what would happen had seen that and had also told me then that it would fail. But back then obviously I was not ready to accept that.



In 1999 my mother passed over to the other side. It was a difficult end for her. She suffered from a stroke and was unable to do about anything at all anymore. I helped her a lot then, in hospital.
On her dying bed I held her hand for every day for one or two weeks. Every day for one or two hours or so. And all I did then was cry and cry. I was the drain that enabled her to lose the greef and sorrow that she was unable to let go of during her life.
A few days before she died she said one thing to me: they scared me.
That was all she could say about it.


It took me quite some time to come to terms with my past. It's now fourteen years ago since my mother passed away and I feel that I am no longer influenced by what she did to me. And there is no active connection anymore between me and her.
But obviously I am now 53, so I cannot pretend anymore like I am 20 or so. Life is totally different.


So that is what fear has brought about in my life. I wanted to share this with you because it is good to be honest about that. And I don't feel so very vulnerable anymore like in the past. Over the years I have regained more strength, but approaching women is still a touchy thing for me. Well, at least the fear has disappeared. It's now the unfamiliarity and lack of experience that holds me back.





Frits

The desire for sex is a biological urge and it is neither a positive nor negative attribute. It simply is. However, it can be expressed in healthy or unhealthy ways, can involve exploitation of others, can feed certain kinds of compulsions or addictions, and can confuse an individual with cultural expectations along with the associated rebellions from those expectations.

It is true that what is in your heart is most important, but it is also true that honest self-examination may include the need to refrain from that kind of activity in order to learn who you are and what kind of person you want to be as a whole human being on your own, which is a valid and complete way of being when your life is in harmony.

There are millions of ways for a human being to self-express and sexual activity is only one of them. It is important, in my opinion, to keep it in perspective. It is not a necessity, and can be a distraction from more subtle expressions of affection and caring for others.

All people are valuable, no matter what their orientation or life experiences. Being a human being is a challenge, and this kind of self-understanding is important to talk about. It is brave to share and to open our minds and hearts to others in this way, so I applaud all of you who dare to do it.

Kathy, thank you very much for your empathy and kind and interesting comment. 
I felt quite sure about posting such private issues here that they would be met with understanding and not being stepped on my soul again to check if everything has really been tied up and secured. You confirmed my trust. Thanks again.

recoverer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:


Yes, so this is exactly the reason why years ago I tried to find a way to overcome that. How can you overcome earthbound interpretations?
How can you rule out the possibility of people saying this is true while others say it's not?

You would have to have access to a source that is beyond the earthbound level.
But opening up to such a source is not as easy for everyone. How do you know if this source is true?

I found the answers to all of these questions. And I have had very satisfying results.
So, if people say I have gone astray in my 'belief system', well so be it.
I am too saturated and satisfied to change anymore.


Mogenblue / Frits

recoverer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

That is absolutely true. I completely and heartfelt agree with that.
This is one thing why it would be so good if many more people would become aware of the spiritual guidance that can be there for them.
Because I guess I have had guidance in the past that may well differ from the guidance that you have had. But it has brought me great progression in my emotional and spiritual development.

There is a time for everything. Spiritual guides usually know better then yourself which time requires what kind of help.

recoverer wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

You're welcome, Recoverer. 


Mogenblue

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Hey! I've being behaving myself and words lately! No doubt, Bruce, has being recently, suddenly, vocal now on this forums message list, due to his reduced income and money train 'imaginative' schemes, because it no longer generates the financial desires he expects...Blessings and Love. Carl and Family    

Howdy Carl. An author makes a living as with any profession, and a reduced income can indeed happen to anyone. Very basic stuff. But I'm wondering if you know what the imagination technique is about? Have you tried it? Have you tried other techniques?

Crossbow, nice to see you around, cobber. Thought about you the other day with the forum as a backdrop, and here you are. Btw, what does your conscience think?