Another thing I am wondering is:

If the spiritual realm of focus 27 is so great and grand with lots of free-will choice etc. Why would we ever want to imprison ourselves in the physical world?
Why wouldn't we just stay in the heavenly realms?
And if we wanted to experience a little more limitation, couldnt we just do it from a level like focus 27 for a little while? Instead of a lifetime of limit and lack here?

Warpz,

Even Heaven can get boring.  Personally, I incarnated here as a vacation from eternity.

Bruce

Carl-

The biggest mistake was not his smoking, it was restoring your suspension.

Your entire purpose is to insult other posters and the host of the board with sarcasm and rudeness.  You add nothing of substance.

You consistently ignore the guidelines.  Here's hoping this will be the last post from you.

r

According to some "near death" experiences which I have read, some people return from theirs with memories of having reached a certain location in which they realized that they must come back to their earthly existence. It varies whether people are told they must come back or whether they have some choice in the matter. Some people have recorded that they actually know at that point specific facts about what their future lives would be like here if they returned. For instance they are given knowledge of their loved ones who would be better off if they stayed. Even information about future children they will have. That knowledge influenced how they felt. Sometimes they come right back after realizing that they want to be here for their loved ones.

Many near death experiencers seem to have a kind of "contract" to be here. I would have to guess that there are many many reasons why people incarnate here, and that much of it has to do with agreements made in the spirit world ahead of time. Whether our plans are carried out as we originally intend them to seems to vary. So, from this kind of information, I feel fairly confident that we have choices in the afterlife.

Hello karuna2000,

Years ago I was actually teed off about having to be here in this life and was anxious to hold someone accountable someday when I kicked the bucket . Once I started using Bruce's Focused Attention techniques I eventually realized that there wasn't anyone to blame--it had been my decision all along and would always be my decision. When we're out of or over with a life experience and can regain our bigger picture, we can remember more easily why we chose to be here in the first place. And it's my opinion that we're here not out of any negative or fallen-from-perfection sinful behavior, but because our very nature demands adventure and discovery. So we keep creating, to explore and learn new things.

Just my thoughts .

Much love,

Ginny

Ginny,

If bullying and childish attacks don't upset Bruce, why do you respond with "you're making an ass out of yourself"? What category does your question to Carl fall into? I'm also learning new things here. My very nature demands adventure and discovery. I keep on creating, to explore and learn new things.

Griffin, it's been and still is on topic. There's no substitute for experience, good or bad. If Carl is to be an ice-hole, both you and Ginny have joined the club, yet you two refer to the member cards as frozen assets. Ginny's do as I say and not as I do does make for the icing on the cake.

If memory serves me, both Bob and Bruce described a re-entry station. A clue to the operation is that a disk/the bigger self extend a lot of simultaneous incarnations into this world without "help". There's no real need for an incarnation finished with the earthly walk to go back again. But re-packaging is also an experience some disks choose to have for their extensions. Personally, not for me, nor a tunnel of light. It's easy to scan someone for mental images of close ones and present them to incarnations. There's also no real need for a tunnel to bring you anywhere in the astral, it done by the use of thought of the experiencer. Light trap is another word for it. Anyone who can astral focus can check the re-entry station and light tunnel phenomenon and make up their own minds.

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"Bob".....  Thanks man. To respond mostly seriously to a post that includes the phrase  "Fruit flies like a banana" shows a grave intention on your part. . Bravo!   Sometimes the afterlife is ultra-serious business. I truly appreciate your thoughts on experiencing the in-between.... wish you'd write more on that.