Berserk2 wrote on Feb 7th, 2013 at 4:53pm:The appearance of being "stuck" in a locked-in historical scene seems to be a standard feature of hauntings. But does this mean that when the "trapped" soul manifests, it also concretizes the illusory presence of a cast of characters existing in that period, but currently present only as an empty thought forms? In the elevator women's shared civil war scenario, was only one deceased soldier "present" against a background of several empty thought forms of surgeons, war wounded, etc.?
When Vicky experienced the empty 4th floor, was she in fact sharing a thought form of that floor with a discarnate spirit whose presence was kept secret? In other words, was she present in a parallel construct of that floor, which she might have needed if she were to have a shared NDE with a soul dying on that floor?
When soul retrievals are performed, is the perception of a cartoony setting merely a reflection of the retrievee's thought forms? When we contact a discarnate spirit during ADCs or NDEs, how much of what we see is a set of multiple thought forms emanating from that spirit? How can we diffierentiate these thought forms from the genuine presence of other spirits and independent geographical locales in spirit planes?
When Robert Bruce has OBE visits to astral Rehab centers, he says that the "staff" (wandering nurses, nurses at desks, etc.) seem to be merely thought forms who can't be meaningfully engaged, but the visiting parents of the deceased in the rehab center seem to be the true parents? What kinds of holographic games are being played during NDEs and ADCs anyway? Do we really need to bring in "My Big Toe" here?
Don
Don,
You're asking the same or similar questions I've wondered about for awhile now and I'm not sure if I have any concrete answers, except that most anything is possible within consciousness so maybe there are no concrete answers.
If these things are looked at through a MBT viewpoint they'd likely be explained as the viewer switching reality frames or changing their focus of awareness for a few moments. In essence, they may encounter a discarnate being "stuck" in a reality of the discarnate's own creation/experience. (i.e. a soldier that died in battle.) The viewer can see and interact with the discarnate, but all other information surrounding the circumstances comes from the historical database, which the viewer has accessed. (i.e. surgeons, wounded men, etc. as in your first scenario.) These images only appear to the viewer as a way to communicate the information stored in the historical database and perhaps that's why they appear as thought forms. Visual images are very common ways to receive information from a database, though hearing, smelling, feeling, etc. can occur as well.
It may be possible that the viewer entered into a reality that was created by the discarnate or perhaps even groups of discarnates so that the awareness of the energy is present at the physical location. Below is a link to a recent post by TC that I found interesting. It seems to touch on this idea.
http://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7636&p=65583#p65583I had to go through a few belief system crashes to allow myself to be open minded enough to allow myself to consider new information and gain understanding from that new information, yet I strive to remain skeptical enough so that what I learn/test/experience doesn't turn into yet another belief system. Luckily... or not, I seem to be a natural born analyzer, which I find myself doing almost constantly. Not necessarily always a good thing because it increases the uncertainty levels to uncomfortable limits. lol
Kathy
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