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The murder of children
Dec 17th, 2012 at 8:40am
 
The horrific act of violence in Connecticut strikes me as the worst thing possible in the physical world.  I know the children will be taken care of by the system in place (at least I believe it to be true).  Yet I was surprised to one posted here on it or the implications.  For those of us who do retrievals, it seems that a mass attempt to communicate and help them to guides is in order.

No one was meant to be cut down like this.  I know, just as in a tsunami or hurricane, that energetic forces and the actions of others are unpredictable.  But the way in which these deaths occurred, the trauma was extreme. 

My heart is broken.  If any are interested in this board, it is a time for action.


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Reply #1 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 9:53am
 
On another forum someone posed the question if it is a gun problem or a heart problem.
I replied that to my gut feeling it is a heart problem. Because if you have a good heart you don't buy a gun in the first place.

It's terrible for what happened to those children and the emptiness it leaves behind with their parents. And for the teachers and school psycholog as well of course. And for those that they left behind.

I am glad gun control is way more restricted in my country. But it can happen here too. We had a shootout some time ago in Alphen a/d Rijn in a shopping mall. I do believe it is waving over from the US.
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Reply #2 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 10:18am
 
This is a non-issue for me, Mogen; that is, there is no reason a citizen should own a gun that can fire off hundreds of rounds of ammunition.  Not sure why we need to own guns anyway but I am open to do it with strict laws tracking of control, and locked boxes that are inspected so kids can't get at them.  And laws should be enacted.  In countries without guns, mass shootings are less common - Crazy people can come into a room with a knife or weapon or get one illegally, but it should be restricted. 

I am trying to see if any on this board want to try to make contact with these poor kids.


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Reply #3 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 12:03pm
 
I share the horror that many feel about this tragic outcome. However, I have tried to draw myself away, emotionally, so that I don't become too enmeshed in the situation, which I feel isn't healthy. Too often, we are exposed through our news outlets for prolonged periods of time to terrible circumstances for which no one is prepared.

I tried briefly to "take a peek" on Saturday. The only impression I got was of children together. That, my feeling, was that the children are all still together, being led away to safety in a group. I have nothing else to offer right now, as it is only a fleeting impression. I can only touch this subject gingerly, as it is a very difficult one.
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Reply #4 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 12:14pm
 
Doc,
I asked the same question on another board, and have not heard an answer. Why, I wonder. I am certainly trying.
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Reply #5 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 12:47pm
 
There is a seperate sphere for children in the afterlife. If you are interested you can read about it here.
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Reply #6 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 2:16pm
 
Hello,

I tried going to them today about noon and saw only about five--six of them left. I couldn’t make contact with them though and will rethink  this and try later.

It might be that these few are feeding each others’ fears and that their classmates who do not show up were already able to move on. I’m thinking a good strategy might be to try to distract one or two individually to get them away from the group feeling they’ve built up. Then the energies of the one or two can be changed more effectively so that the retrieval can progress.  We’ll see.

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Reply #7 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 7:43pm
 
betson

so do you beleive some people can get stuck after death? You say b4 you or others take care of departed when you are asleep. so why not check on the children while you are asleep?



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Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 8:12pm
 
I think there's a continuing misunderstanding about retrievals.

As Bruce has said, only a minority of deceased are in need of a retrieval.  Most aren't.

And certainly when it comes to the children who were killed, to assume they are wandering around distraught with no idea where they are or what happened, is highly improbable.

Plenty of helpers are there to help, especially for young kids who would have arrived totally disoriented and fearful.

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Reply #9 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:33am
 
rondele wrote on Dec 17th, 2012 at 8:12pm:
I think there's a continuing misunderstanding about retrievals.

As Bruce has said, only a minority of deceased are in need of a retrieval.  Most aren't.

And certainly when it comes to the children who were killed, to assume they are wandering around distraught with no idea where they are or what happened, is highly improbable.

Plenty of helpers are there to help, especially for young kids who would have arrived totally disoriented and fearful.

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Oh! WoW!! Just another pathetic statement from a Bruce Moen Groupie amd Clone! The opposite is the truth. Harvey. PS. If Bruce Moens "Imagination" method is so 'exact' and true, then why did he and others using his system, miss the 2004 Indonesian Earthquake and Tsunami , plus the 2011 Japanese Earthquake and Tsunami??? After all, all they have to do is to 'imagine' they are in the Akashic Records, or Hall of Records, or Grand Library! And tell us about future natural disasters? ...Give me a break, Woman! Harvey. A wise man once said. "You can't con a con!"    
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Reply #10 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:54am
 
I agree with you Rondele.

   The children would still have a strong connection to the other side and would probably be connected up with any associated relatives or friends that were still maintaining their location from where they started at. They will probably try to decide whether or nor to stay dis incarnate for quite awhile after all this evil is resolved in the world before attempting another entry.

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Reply #11 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 10:02am
 
USA is a very rich country, where few children have to die from famine.
Worldwide, several millions of children die from starvation and illness,
each year.

If you have the time to do a retrieval, keep an open mind for all those
children from other countries as well.
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Reply #12 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:43pm
 
A lot of people have NDEs without needing to be retrieved.

In one his books Robert Monroe wrote (I think "Ultimate Journey") that he was told that most people don't need retrievals.

I had some experiences that seemed to make the point that most people don't need retrievals.

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Reply #13 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:52pm
 
The other misconception about retrievals is that we can choose who we want to retrieve.

For instance, the children killed last Friday in CT.

Maybe in some cases we can choose, but when we set out to retrieve, we are much better off in terms of serving others by asking a Helper to guide us to someone who is most in need rather than specific individuals who most likely are not stuck and are already being taken care of.

In this regard Pauli makes a very good point.

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Reply #14 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 4:42pm
 
These are all such good, comforting and helpful points. I don't know the "whole story" and don't claim to have "the truth" about anything, but what you all have said makes sense to me.

The universe, whatever it is in its wholeness, does not seem to react agreeably to demands put on it. Rather, it seems to form a relationship with us, through our life experiences and the occasional "surprise" which may just be something simple in our ordinary lives -- only we notice.

So, it's not impersonal, as we are often taught. But, just because we have a reaction to something doesn't mean that we must have our answer in the way we anticipate, in the way which we expect, or even think we "need" so very much.
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