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Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo
Reply #30 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:53am

This notion of a hierarchy of masters for prayer is BS. Prayer is the correct application of intent. It is most successful when coupled to conviction and a calm mind. The coupling of a stated intent for the highest good with the certainty that it will occur - cultivating the feeling of the desired outcome and giving thanks before it occurs - all these are key features for successful prayer.

But prayer is not a thing for the "masters." The notion of a "master" as opposed to common folk is, in some ways, absurd. Prayer is for all of us, and at any time. The reason many prayers fail is simply that the supplicant doesn't understand the process. Once explained, anyone can successfully apply prayer in their own lives.

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Reply #31 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:10am

DocM wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

But prayer is not a thing for the "masters." The notion of a "master" as opposed to common folk is, in some ways, absurd. Prayer is for all of us, and at any time. The reason many prayers fail is simply that the supplicant doesn't understand the process. Once explained, anyone can successfully apply prayer in their own lives.

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You seem to know more about the Masters of Light then they do themselves.
When did you last meet them?
Why should prayers only be reserved for Earthlings? That's absurd.

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DocM Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 2168	Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo Reply #32 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:54am Quite the opposite, Mogen. I know nothing of masters, but I know that prayer is not limited to them. Effective prayer belongs to any thinking sentient creature, alien or otherwise. You seemed to imply that the masters were more able to grant requests than we are ourselves.
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Mogenblue Senior Member Offline dutch spirit Posts: 370 Amsterdam Gender:	Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo Reply #33 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:08pm Just the type of reaction you can expect from someone who is tied up to a Bible or Koran, etcetera.
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Reply #34 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 1:26pm

"If you read "A View into the Hereafter" many things may become clear to you about this."

I've read some of your descriptions and they haven't sparked any interest, you go right ahead with it though.

"Just the type of reaction you can expect from someone who is tied up to a Bible or Koran, etcetera."

And that's just the type of reaction you can expect from someone who is tied up to rulof, masters of light etc.

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DocM Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 2168	Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo Reply #35 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 5:39pm This is startling to me, because my response to Mogen was that ANYONE can pray effectively (regardless of religion) - that there was no prerequisite to be a master to see prayers realized. In response he said my answer was what you would expect from a Bible thumper. Really?
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Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo
Reply #36 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:58pm

DocM wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

This notion of a hierarchy of masters for prayer is BS. Prayer is the correct application of intent. It is most successful when coupled to conviction and a calm mind. The coupling of a stated intent for the highest good with the certainty that it will occur - cultivating the feeling of the desired outcome and giving thanks before it occurs - all these are key features for successful prayer.

But prayer is not a thing for the "masters." The notion of a "master" as opposed to common folk is, in some ways, absurd. Prayer is for all of us, and at any time. The reason many prayers fail is simply that the supplicant doesn't understand the process. Once explained, anyone can successfully apply prayer in their own lives.

M

This is what I meant doc.

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Reply #37 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:28pm

(3) Well, let me insert the 4rd paranormal adventure I encountered during my Buffalo visit. The day after I performed the marriage, Mike and Karen drove me to the south coast of Lake Ontario. One highlight was my tour of the Van Horn Mansion. Across from it was the old grist mill that the British burned during the War of 1812. Yes, the Van Horns supported the American cause and paid the price for it.

The mansion was particularly interesting due to the old kitchen and kitchenware, all the period piece clothing, furniture, pots and pans, and the attic where the servants lived, an attic that was 20 degrees hotter than the rest of the mansion. I don't know how the servants survived the summer heat. It was even more interesting because there was no first floor windows--only Friench doors--and no closets--only closets that became mini-hallways to the next rooms. Why? Because homes were heavily taxed for each window and each closet.

Most interesting of all was the 2nd floor creepy female mannequin, that gazed out the window of the cigar room. She was inserted there to mimic the ghost of Melinda, the 21-year-old wife who had an affair while Mr. Van Horn was away on business. For this indiscetion she was murdered and her corpse waqs hacked to pieces which were buried all over the house's grounds. The mannequin was located where the ghost of Miranda was later photographed from outside as she gazed longingly out that window. I saw the photo of her ghost! The haunting continued until cadaver dogs snified out enough of the scattered bones to bury them in one place of honor on the grounds. The full story of all the paranormal manifestions of Melinda is told every Halloween druing mansion tours. I wish I could go back and hear more stories.

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Reply #39 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 7:23pm

In discussing the power of prayer, I like to give recent examples. Last night (Saturday), I talked to Laurie who had just finished a spiritual retreat which our church supports with several volunteers. On Tuesday night, Laurie had a dream about a new woman who had recently attended church. In the dream, Laurie's 3-year-old daughter pointed to the new woman and asked, "Why is that man going to shoot that lady?" Laurie didn't see the gun and had never met the woman's husband. So all she could do was take this as a call to prayer. She got out of bed and fervently prayed a long time for this new lady's sruvival.

The next Sunday, another woman approached Laurie and asked her, "Did you hear what happened to X (the new woman in the dream)?" Laurie replied, "No, but did it happen on Tuesday night?" Her informant replied, "Oh, so you've heard!" "No, but I had a premonition dream about her on Tuesday. Tell me what happened." "Well, she and her husband got into an argument tha got so heated that her husband got his gun out and pulled the trigger to kill her. But the trigger jammed. When the trigger jammed, he calmed down and she and her husband reconciled." She pressed no charges. The hope is that the husband will join this woman in church soon.

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Mogenblue Senior Member Offline dutch spirit Posts: 370 Amsterdam Gender:	Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo Reply #40 - Sep 9^th, 2012 at 8:15pm That is a very impressive example, Beserk2. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you.
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Re: Paranormal Experiences in and near Buffalo
Reply #41 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 11:47pm

Bill is a leader in my church. He works for Avista, our regional power company. Bill had asked me why I never asked him to share his testimony. I replied that I never knew he wanted to do so. In fact, I had asked others about this possibility and should have asked Bill as well. Let me narrate just one of Bill's experiences. that he shared with me just this afternoon.

He was in the process of repairing a downed high voltage line and thought (wrongly) that he had taken all the neceessary precautions for handling it. He heard crackling and realized that he was in trouble. He dropped the wire and walked away from his position. But when he happened to look back, he noticed a growing fire in the soft grassy soil. Bill returned to put out the fire, but then noticed his two footprints in the middle of the 4 ft. square flames. In Bill's mind, God spared him from certain death by electricution.

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Reply #42 - Sep 19^th, 2012 at 3:20am

Years ago I was working at the Industrial Automation Department of a big American company in my city, Honeywell. They assigned me the coordination of a project to qualification for Quality Control to ISO-9000 standards.
To get more information about our procedures and guidelines they sent me to the European Headquarters in Belgium. I decided to make it a one day trip. Leave early in the morning and be back somewhere in the evening.

I had never made such a long trip with my car before and I hadn't been abroad with it either. I was unbeknown of what it takes to do that.
I left early, got to HQ in time and had some good talks overthere. They handed me a few big books with their official procedures. At around three in the afternoon I decided to go back so I would not be home too late. On my way back I felt getting more and more tired. Driving so long and having sophisticated talks about new material had asked a lot of my energy resources. I decided to take a 30 minute nap or so at a gas station. After that I went on and thought I could make it home.

Back in my country I hadn't regained enough energy. I kept driving on but the fatigue was so overwhelming that while I was driving about 100kmh/60mph I just dozed off to sleep again. Then, at an instant, I felt a big fright and was clear awake right away. I saw the traffic had come to a stop in front of me so immediately I slammed the break and came to a screeching stop just one or two meters away from the last car in the jam. Less than seven feet or so. It scared the hell out of me.
If it wasn't for that fright I would have stayed asleep and banged straight into the last car. I'm sure I could have been killed in that accident. After that I was completely awake and did not feel sleepy anymore at all on the trip back home.

Later on I was convinced that powers from the afterlife had saved me that day.

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