Somewhere I read a comment saying that with obe you can learn things about astrology.  Sounded like the implication was that astrology is a real thing.  Does anyone here have any experience through going ob with astrology.  I have always thought there was something to it.  I used to do charts using my own calculations and several times the signs were just more than what could have been coincidence IMO.  You should see my chart.  If you look up the meanings of the different positions and angles it points strongly to astral travel and other occult interests.  That's me.  A girl I once knew was extremely beautiful and looking up the definitions it showed that.  The same for another friend who spent some time in prison.  It's shocking that so called people of science discount astrology on the grounds that gravity couldn't be the cause because the stars are too far away.  Of course gravity has nothing to do with it.  How nieve-how little they must know.

I don't know anything specific about astrology associated with OB.

I do know that one can't begin to understand astrology until one looks away from charts and mathematics and the drivel published in newspapers and peioricls.

I've felt the touch of luna on a clear cool night. It is a soothing yet gently controlling within me. It is a knowing that there is a system-an incredibley old and powerful system-exerting influince upon use.

The traditional astrologers who give imprtonce to th newborn's 1st breath understnd more that any roomful of chartcasters and interpeters.

The rules, mechanics and dynamics of the outer universe-whether physical or otherwise- are just as, is if not more so, in effect than our petty technical achievements here in this space-time concstruct we have become lost within.

Tool perhaps says it well "Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child or
Drags you down like a stone
To consume you till you choose to let this go."

Hardly lotto number pics with that...

"I enjoy Ruiz' positive energy but he seems to be omitting some key components of the Toltec perspective.

The "dreaming body" or 'the doube" (surely the same as ths "second body" as described by Monroe)"

The full range: benevolent, malevoelent, and utterly uninterested beings aware of human existece.

Pardon me for digressing. I've be reading a great deal of Monroe and Toltec books lately.

I'll be around-looking for answers...

What I have experienced while OB has made me more open to many ancient teachings, although I haven’t encountered astrological knowledge yet.  I think contemporary times know only bits and pieces of these old traditions. What is revealed to us individually is what we’re ready for, they say, so I look forward to learning more about astrology too.

Maybe someone reading this astrology thread can answer another astrology question: Is there any reason that the name of our strological ‘sign’ is the same as the name of the meteor shower that accompanies our conception?  You’d think if there were a correlation or even just coincidence that the meteors’ names  would  correlate with our birthdays, not nine months previous.

Bets

Hi a channel,

You seem to be saying that your 'intent to know’ astrology occasionally connects you to a source of wisdom about it. ? 
Do you ever ask directly, stating your intent to know about some principle etc of astrology?

Many obes result in popping out, floating around, and dropping into random places. (“Pop-flop-and-drop”? Sorry, just kidding.)  When the ‘explorerer' has no intent beyond getting out, Consciousness provides no further meaningfu information.

Bruce’s method of retrieivals establishes meaningful intent, so when retrievers are ob, they are not at the mercy of bits of consciousness flotsam.

It seems that astrology and obes are entirely separate but could be combined if one had specific intent to do so. However experience with going outside the body is suggested to start with places and issues close at hand, to not stretch too far at first. For ex., some cosmic game of baseball using planets and suns as bases isn’t wise until some obe wisdom has been established.

Betson