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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #45 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 6:46am
 
PauliEffectt wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 6:01am:
What puzzles me at this forum is that some people write forum posts as if they
have read absolutely nothing of Monroe's and Moen's experiences.

Instead there's some kind of religious belief, by Buhlman call unsubstantiated,
which doesn't seem to fit anywhere along the discoveries of Moen. Are those
books' experiences completely ignored? Is Moen talking to deaf ears? I just
don't get it.

Why?


I admit I have read absolutely nothing of Moen's books. His talks haven't reached my ears at all. Of Monroe I may have read one book far in the past.

I disagree that my belief should be unsubstantiated. I base my knowledge on the books of Jozef Rulof. During his life he made many paintings in trance. I accept that. I accept that he had no qualities at all to paint himself.
Furthermore I have my own spiritual guides that made it easier for me to accept the after life.

Somewhere in the past I had a problem. I wanted to know more about the afterlife but I could not have OBE´s myself. So how to find out about the afterlife in a reliable way?
Since it was obvious to me that afterlife is there who would be best qualified to talk about that? To me it would be the people that live there. It's the same as with cooking. If you want to learn to cook you ask a cook. Simple enough.

The harder part was to find a reliable source. After many years and not before I was in the midst of a personal crisis I allowed myself to open up to the books of Jozef Rulof.
As I wrote before, the language in those books is straight forward and simple and it testifies of a deep understanding of the after life, the people on Earth and our position in the universe.
Monroe or Moen will never be able to give so much knowledge about the afterlife.

That's my explanation.
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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #46 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 9:56am
 
Mogenblue wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 6:46am:
I wanted to know more about the afterlife but I could not have OBE´s myself. So how to find out about the afterlife in a reliable way?

You may not need to have an OBE to be able to experience the afterlife on your own,
if you use any variation of Moen's method.
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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #47 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 10:03am
 
PauliEffectt wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 9:56am:
You may not need to have an OBE to be able to experience the afterlife on your own,
if you use any variation of Moen's method.


I think it would remain impossible for me to discover all the things the Masters have disclosed in so many books.
How would I discover on my own how many spheres of light and darkness there are? I haven't got the concentration powers to do that.
What would happen to me if I would try to go into space? Would anything happen at all if I stayed here? Would I be able to surpass my own thinking and fantasies?

The books of Rulof are way ahead of all that.
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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #48 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 10:34am
 
Mogenblue wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 10:03am:
What would happen to me if I would try to go into space?

You could perhaps get a little more knowledge and a little less mere beliefs.
Monroe always urged people to turn beliefs into knowns.

I typed down my variation of the Moen method almost a year ago and it starts
with the title "HOW I GO ABOUT RETRIEVALS".

If you take a look at the link at the end of the Maureen Caudill book review,
you can read my variation of doing the Moen method.

Or as Monroe used to put it: "Why don't you take a look yourself?"
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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #49 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 10:54am
 
Please tell me PauliEffect, have you been into space?

Have you visited other planets during OBE's?

What is the highest sphere of light where you have been?
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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #50 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 10:57am
 
Well, Mogenblue, I have showed you the door. But you have to decide if you want to open it.
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Reply #51 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:15am
 
You are not answering my questions, PauliEffect.
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Reply #52 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:20am
 
Mogenblue, you are absolutely right.
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Re: Christians - why so many here?
Reply #53 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:28am
 
Thank you, PauliEffect.

Do you plan to answer them somewhere near in the future?
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