Focus, so you do not believe that communications that come via mediums (the very best ones) are enough to prove an an afterlife? If not, would other lines of "evidence" such as NDE's, apparitions, etc., taken together with "evidence" that bring to us, constitute proof enough of their being an afterlife?

My response was mainly to Lucy who claims that mediums do not provide absolute proof of the afterlife. I disagree with this posters statement to a point, as discussed in my example.

Lucy's point is simple enough, even medium readings cannot prove the afterlife is a fact. But medium readings CAN prove that SOMETHING exists. However, that something may not actually be an afterlife like we think. Even the seemingly ridiculous religious belief that demons are providing data to mediums is technically a valid theory.

The only way to know for sure is for YOU as an INDIVIDUAL to DIE.*

Sucks doesn't it?


*Note I do not ask for you to come back to life. Your NDE is meaningless to me as I cannot establish how, when, where, and all of the answers that are required for me to accept it as scientific data. Anyone can have a dream like sequence at any point prior, during, or just before coming around after a death inducing medical issue. It is impossible to prove the NDE claim as anything more than exactly this. Unless you can see and verify factual test data I have placed for you to check while I temporarily induce death upon thee.