Mogenblue, very interesting experiences. I take it you have had such communications infrequently?

Recoverer, when this spirit appeared to you, was there communication and were in in the wide awake state?

The only way to know the message from spirit is not something you created in your own mind is a complex spirit contact involving most likely a second person such as the sitter / medium combo.

You need the medium to bring out the full name of the deceased and bring out an exact detail the sitter can later verify as true.

Example:

I am getting a message from... Billy Bob.... he says he doesn't like where the tv was moved.

The sitter verifies all information as factual and is even amazed because they personally did know that the tv was moved but did not even consider this being something that the deceased could complain about or bring up.

This rules out telepathy/mind reading as long as, like I said, the sitter did not even consider the fact being brought up until after the fact.

Generally speaking, what we in the business call, a SOLID HIT in a reading like this, is basically guaranteed proof of the supernatural.

It does not explain or guarantee that the message really came from Billy Bob's spirit/entity etc. But it does prove that supernatural phenomenon is reality and not simply an illusion.

And think about that... Scientific proof that supernatural phenomenon has actually legitimate and can be scientifically documented!!!!????

In this best case scenario, with documented proof of supernatural phenomenon actually being legitimate, WHY shouldn't spirits become a viable and more likely conclusion?

I suppose this scenario could be done with one person. But, as I am attempting to explain, the one contacting the "spirit" needs to come up with amazing and fantastic evidence and information that they couldn't even guess at that they could later verify came from "outside."

Please note: As far as I am concerned, almost 100% of The Monroe Institute, mediation and focus level contacts involve make believe information and not scientifically verifiable data. This brings these concepts into a HIGHLY suspicious light.

In 2006 on a train in Italy I was on the verge of dozing off when my name was shouted.  I was jarred into full consciousness and saw a lifelike image of a woman I had been engaged to 18 years prior.  Together with her smile at me came an incredible rush of emotions, memories and an overriding sense of love and comfort. As I absorbed this amazing sensation, the image faded but her favorite perfume lingered on my jacket for the rest of the day...my wife even asked where it came from.

Since then the search for what, why and how has led me through amazing discoveries and not belief, but knowledge, of the survival of consciousness after death...which, to me, is simply the casting aside of old clothes, or the body which can no longer be used as a vehicle for our soul. 

recoverer, so you actually see the face of the spirit communicating with you? and you knew of these people when they were alive?


Also, were you always able to communicate with spirits since a child or did you develop this ability after you started meditating?

usetawuz, if this was a real apparition, would others on the train not have seen it? I would have guessed this was simply your subconscious mind playing tricks on you, but for the perfume which your wife could smell. So that said, very interesting and perhaps the apparition was indeed real (how else could other people smell the perfume later?).

recoverer, when you see an image are you seeing it in front of you (like an apparition) in the room or is this something you "see" inside your head?

But it has happened when your eyes are open, yes?

If it just happens when your eyes are closed I would be more suspect that it is your mind creating this inner image which you believe to be some entity that is not being produced by your mind. Mind you, if I had your experiences, perhaps i too would "know" that this was not simply a construct of my own mind.

ottawa1 wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 4:16pm:


I did not consider it an apparition, though she stood before me where there was a divider/table between our seats...she appeared as solid and real as my wife behind her and to the left.  There were no others around me but my sleeping wife in front of me...no one was walking around.  And the level of emotion understanding and memories that came flooding into my mind were sourced outside my mind...it was "pushed" into my mind.