Hello,

Any time we can stop our internal dialogues and rationale-seeking brain, we have an opportunity to look into other realms.  ‘Scrying' is a term that refers to that process, when material ‘objects’ (if smoke and other formless matter can be considered material) are used to stop continual chatter and instead focus intent on non-physical realms.

Before scrying can be effective one has to give up any negative feelings. A scryer might think he has to concentrate harder but it is that process that leaves no room for negativity. So why not go directly to Bruce Moen’s technique of remembering a love-filled moment? Putting oneself in tune with loving feelings from the start keeps a lot of negative influences from intruding, such as happens with an ouji-board.

One trouble with such props are that they come with their own associations that can cloud our minds. For example if you scry with smoke, you might unconsciously recall a fire that threatened you when you were a child, and your attempt to contact information beyond the physical could be tainted by that.

We --you --  don’t need material ‘props’ to reach non-material realms.

Betson

Hi ottawa1,

Thinking back over the experiences people have reported here and those I’ve had, it seems that what is seen can be part of the retrievee’s/ contacted person’s environment, like seeing a hospital/healing center that a wounded soul might be.

OR it can be symbols of some aspect of the retriever and retrievee’s relationship,
or  (-: it can be a metaphor just for the retriever.

There really isn’t an 'objective reality’ in these realms as we know it in material reality. Take the first example here. The retrievee might be found in a hospital-like setting by one, but in a sunny meadow by another. The ‘reality’ of both scenes is that they are in a healing place.

What you see will have to do with your intent for going, and your own history. It will be meaningful even though it seems like a puzzle. I apologize that I can’t be more specific.

Woops, that’s when done with an open heart, which requires some clearing beforehand. If not done with what is called an open or loving heart, then the unconscious can throw in some imagery that can be unhelpful. Getting into these other realms might not be quick.

Are you already getting results from scrying?

Betson

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I was actually thinking of the same thing. If scrying is not simply the subconscious mind creating an image, sounds, etc. Then one should be able to take a photo or video of the image seen in the crystal ball, water, etc. I am guessing that no images exist (people must have tried) which would likely mean the mind of the sitter is responsible for the image and the deceased are not really visiting and communicating.

Woops, sorry, I missed your post about Dr. Moody. He’s the one who so long ago influenced me about this.

I think he said somewhere that how contact is made is so difficult to describe that he doesn’t spend much time trying. It doesn’t follow the physics of the material world. He certainly spent alot of time discussing other aspects of such contact though. 
Why would he do that?

Betson

Yes.